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HutchwasClutch

Quote from: duanewade on June 28, 2020, 01:56:09 PM
It's impossible to police hard core liberals as they don't know how to stop or compartmentalize anything.  They have a brain disease and actually believe 50 years of the same policy failures that lower the bar while bankrupting cities and states are always the fault of someone else... and of course due to racism, sexism, or whatever new ism they come up with.

This too

vogue65

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on June 28, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
This too

I side with the position that we are dealing with moral issues and not political or economic issues.

Jockey

Quote from: Herman Cain on June 28, 2020, 03:56:54 PM
BLM The organization=Communist Party=Funded by ACT Blue which is arm of Democrat Party

Sorry to burst your bubble Brew, but you are being hoodwinked. Classic subterfuge by the Alinsky led mob who wants to enslave the country and install a dictatorship . That is what communism is my friend.

Legitimate hard working people of color love America and everything it stands for.

Millions of People fought and died for the rights we have as free citizens.

Freedom>Slavery.

Many blacks fought and died so their right to play MLB could be denied. People of color do not love racism. They don't love being singled out only because they are black. And they certainly don't love being murdered for being black.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on June 28, 2020, 07:08:08 PM
Many blacks fought and died so their right to play MLB could be denied. People of color do not love racism. They don't love being singled out only because they are black. And they certainly don't love being murdered for being black.

But are those people "legitimate?"

mu03eng

Well, whoever is the leader of this letter writing campaign is a pilot with the user name V1 Rotate, so draw your own conclusions.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

panda

Quote from: mu03eng on June 28, 2020, 07:17:06 PM
Well, whoever is the leader of this letter writing campaign is a pilot with the user name V1 Rotate, so draw your own conclusions.

BeeJay?

Uncle Rico

This thread is making me thirsty
"Well, we're all going to die."


Uncle Rico

"Well, we're all going to die."

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 28, 2020, 06:17:04 PM
The difference between BLM, Inc and BLM the movement has been explained to you over and over again. So please stop being ignorant.

Where can I send a contribution to BLM the Movement? Who are it's leaders? What is their mission statement? Where can I find their statements repudiating the goals of BLM the Organization?

When I see a spokesperson on TV or read an article quoting BLM, it's "organization" leaders and spokespersons, not "movement" ones I see and hear. I sincerely hope that the movement creates its own distinct organization free from the present radical messaging. But until the movement is vocal about their aims and their not being part of BLM the organization I just can't offer support for anything other than the sentiment.



Jockey

Quote from: mu03eng on June 28, 2020, 07:17:06 PM
Well, whoever is the leader of this letter writing campaign is a pilot with the user name V1 Rotate, so draw your own conclusions.

Shocking! Who woulda thunk it?  :-\

real chili 83

#36
Quote from: mu03eng on June 28, 2020, 07:17:06 PM
Well, whoever is the leader of this letter writing campaign is a pilot with the user name V1 Rotate, so draw your own conclusions.

MuEng, you need to redirect. 

mu_hilltopper

It's me, I started it.  It's a false flag operation to get people to write compliments praising MUScoop staff.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on June 28, 2020, 08:09:46 PM
Shocking! Who woulda thunk it?  :-\

so who is it jackwagon? you couldn't find your "backside" with both hands and a flashlight
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Herman Cain

Quote from: Jockey on June 28, 2020, 07:08:08 PM
Many blacks fought and died so their right to play MLB could be denied. People of color do not love racism. They don't love being singled out only because they are black. And they certainly don't love being murdered for being black.
Since you brought it up, two members of my immediate family were denied the right to play MLB because of their skin color. Rather than consume themselves with bitterness, they never looked back and moved forward and built successful careers in the fields that would take them.   










"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 28, 2020, 08:02:15 PM
Where can I send a contribution to BLM the Movement? Who are it's leaders? What is their mission statement? Where can I find their statements repudiating the goals of BLM the Organization?

When I see a spokesperson on TV or read an article quoting BLM, it's "organization" leaders and spokespersons, not "movement" ones I see and hear. I sincerely hope that the movement creates its own distinct organization free from the present radical messaging. But until the movement is vocal about their aims and their not being part of BLM the organization I just can't offer support for anything other than the sentiment.

If you sincerely want to understand the perspective, read up on Project Zero and the work of Sam Sinyangwe, Deray McKesson, and Britney Packnett-Cunningham. Read Ta-Nehesi Coates, The Case For Reparations is a good place to start. Or the 1619 Project article and podcast. On social media, Rachel Cargle is a solid follow that challenges her followers. If you're looking for other podcasts, Code Switch and Pod Save the People. On demand, watch 13th on Netflix.

Or just go to a march. Listen to the voices there. At this point, if you aren't hearing the message, it's because you're choosing not to listen.

forgetful

Honestly, I didn't think Chicos only had 11 screen names. I thought it was more than that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 28, 2020, 09:42:23 PM
If you sincerely want to understand the perspective, read up on Project Zero and the work of Sam Sinyangwe, Deray McKesson, and Britney Packnett-Cunningham. Read Ta-Nehesi Coates, The Case For Reparations is a good place to start. Or the 1619 Project article and podcast. On social media, Rachel Cargle is a solid follow that challenges her followers. If you're looking for other podcasts, Code Switch and Pod Save the People. On demand, watch 13th on Netflix.

Or just go to a march. Listen to the voices there. At this point, if you aren't hearing the message, it's because you're choosing not to listen.

Thanks for the reading/listening ideas. I'll get back to you with my impressions.

You may also want to open your mind to different perspectives. I provided a link to a Scott Harris podcast in another thread (I think the podcast is titled "Can we come back from the brink?").

Brew, we may open our minds yet still see things differently. I have no problem with that. I hope you don't either, but your final paragraph seems to indicate differently.



🏀

Quote from: forgetful on June 28, 2020, 09:59:09 PM
Honestly, I didn't think Chicos only had 11 screen names. I thought it was more than that.

It's well over if you count the different iterations of Chicos (Chico's Bail Bonds, Chico's, CBB, cheeks...)

cheebs09

Quote from: forgetful on June 28, 2020, 09:59:09 PM
Honestly, I didn't think Chicos only had 11 screen names. I thought it was more than that.

They probably needed him to post via the VPN.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 28, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
This post is so cute, I just want to reach out and pinch those "eleven" anonymous cheeks.


HOWEVER, it does raise a good issue, so we're going to enact two policy changes:

       
  • MUScoop will no longer force you to read all threads, so you can individually choose what topics interest you personally, and not click those you might find political.   This is a new concept on the internet, so it might take some practice. 

    (If you accidentally click on a thread that does not interest you, fear not, there is a little "x" button on your browser tab that will close the window for you -- and we've made that a complimentary feature.)

  • We are now making the "ignore user" function part of the basic subscription package.

In all seriousness, we do our best.  COVID and the recent civil unrest has made us let more political speech go unchecked -- that being said, we've also handed out several vacations to the most reported authors.


TL;DR:  Life is suffering.  Eat Arby's.

I love it.

dgies9156

I'm rather late to the party but I'll start by saying that I share some of V1's and the other original posters' concerns. It is sad that a board in which many of its members were educated at a fine, inclusive Jesuit university find it so difficult to discuss strongly held positions without resorting to hostility and in some cases, ad hominum attacks on those who do not share their beliefs.

I'm so sick of the ugliness over the coming election that I'm thinking about spinning a cocoon that I can live in until next year. Nobody acknowledges the "other side" be well-intentioned about  anything in this country anymore. It's all about screwing someone. I don't care how liberal or how conservative you might be, I'm amazed that we see goodwill only in our own views. If you ask me, that's kind of selfish.

Secondly, I would hope that any of you who think that the Black Lives Matter movement is Communist would gain some institutional knowledge of the 1960s and early 1970s. The same thing was said about the Hippies, Yippies and the Civil Rights movement of that day. J. Edgar Hoover was an especially strong catalyst of this nonsense and he's been later proven to have broken more laws than any 10 vandals during the last riot.

Finally, think about something. If Jesus walked the Earth today, how would Jesus react to Black Lives Matter? If Scripture is any indication, He would likely say, "of course Black Lives Matter! Black people are my children too. What don't you people get about, 'Love thy neighbor as thy self.' I told you that and, for my sake, I meant it!"


Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 28, 2020, 05:26:43 PM
  "Dentists, lawyers, teachers, business people, law enforcement, IT, retired
Over 50,000 posts and 60 combined years of membership at MUSCOOP
Democrat, Republican, Independent.  Liberal, Conservative, Libertarian
From all parts of the United States
Marquette basketball fans

  just back from a great day on the golf course and not sure who the other dentists are, but rest assured that it wasn't doc or i.  besides, his/her grammar was too good for mine and i can't get my cap key to work that well  8-)

loved toppers response-game on!

I'm going to be honest buddy, there is something in topper's post that tells me it isn't 11 guys.  I know you have thicker skin and that is a positive trait.  Best.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 28, 2020, 10:57:07 PM
I'm rather late to the party but I'll start by saying that I share some of V1's and the other original posters' concerns. It is sad that a board in which many of its members were educated at a fine, inclusive Jesuit university find it so difficult to discuss strongly held positions without resorting to hostility and in some cases, ad hominum attacks on those who do not share their beliefs.

I'm so sick of the ugliness over the coming election that I'm thinking about spinning a cocoon that I can live in until next year. Nobody acknowledges the "other side" be well-intentioned about  anything in this country anymore. It's all about screwing someone. I don't care how liberal or how conservative you might be, I'm amazed that we see goodwill only in our own views. If you ask me, that's kind of selfish.

Secondly, I would hope that any of you who think that the Black Lives Matter movement is Communist would gain some institutional knowledge of the 1960s and early 1970s. The same thing was said about the Hippies, Yippies and the Civil Rights movement of that day. J. Edgar Hoover was an especially strong catalyst of this nonsense and he's been later proven to have broken more laws than any 10 vandals during the last riot.

Finally, think about something. If Jesus walked the Earth today, how would Jesus react to Black Lives Matter? If Scripture is any indication, He would likely say, "of course Black Lives Matter! Black people are my children too. What don't you people get about, 'Love thy neighbor as thy self.' I told you that and, for my sake, I meant it!"

Hoover, he was a body remover.

mu03eng

Quote from: mu03eng on June 28, 2020, 07:17:06 PM
Well, whoever is the leader of this letter writing campaign is a pilot with the user name V1 Rotate, so draw your own conclusions.

For the record, the intent of this post was to remark on the aviation nature of the original posters name not to imply that any particular poster is the author of said letter.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

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