Coach Killings starts Coaches for Action

[muguru]

You were extremely generous. I mean not the best examples. And Ali's son somehow didn't really know who he was. The guy was willing to go to jail to protest racism over Vietnam wall and joined Malcom X. Very doubtful he would be against BLM and pro Trump. Candace Owens I doubt muguru knows the real story of the mercenary nut. MKE's ex-police chief LOL he would have joined the KKK if they accepted him. The more I read guru's posts the more I feel for him totally out of touch.

Now this is exactly what I'm talking about..because you don't want to listen to these people(because they don't share your radical points of view) you complete dismiss them and blast them for being this or that. Why?? You say Candace Owens is a "mercenary nut", You make a claim that you know who Muhhamad Ali was better than his own son and that David Clarke would have joined the KKK. These are the views of a radical leftist. You know none of this to be true. Not a single thing of it. But that doesn't stop you from trying to portray these people as being disingenuous and showing your discontent for them. That's as harmful of a view/ thought as racism is whether you want to believe it or not.

[Pakuni]

One more time.

I concede that racism is a real problem in the US. Fighting it is a noble and just cause.

I believe that Black Lives Matter and see nothing wrong with the idea, the sentiment or the slogan.

I support all who march peacefully in hopes of producing a more just society.


I don’t, however, support people with their heads in the sand. BLM is not a movement/organization co-opted by a few crazy Marxists. It is an organization/movement formed by and still led by committed Marxists. The only path they see to black equality is the worldwide adoption of Marxist principles. The people who do not know this (and I suspect it’s the vast majority of those who have recently joined the movement) are the ones with their heads in the sand. To date, I have seen nothing anywhere about members or leaders of the “movement” repudiating the goals of the founders and leaders of the “organization”. I’ll gladly support a movement to end systemic racism. I’d even (perish the thought) march arm in arm with Wades in its pursuit. But not if Marxism is the end game.

Lenny ... which BLM do you believe Marquette University and hundreds of other schools, hundreds of corporations, thousands of religious groups and tens of millions of Americans have spoken out in support of in recent weeks:

A) The concept that the lives of black people are no less valuable than that of anyone else and systemic racism is an evil that must be ended.
B) A neo-Marxist organization that seeks to destroy the capitalistic system, end the traditional family structure and rid the country of law enforcement.

If you choose B, you're either lying or clearly not paying attention. 
If you choose A, then what's your point other than to distract from the real issues* and discredit a phrase that's become emblematic of the entire movement? Why is it so important for you to conflate what are obviously two different ideas?

* Memo: America is not embracing Marxism anytime soon, you Chicken Little, fear-mongering, Sean Hannity wannabes. Amazing how easy some people frighten.

[muguru]

One more time.

I concede that racism is a real problem in the US. Fighting it is a noble and just cause.

I believe that Black Lives Matter and see nothing wrong with the idea, the sentiment or the slogan.

I support all who march peacefully in hopes of producing a more just society.


I don’t, however, support people with their heads in the sand. BLM is not a movement/organization co-opted by a few crazy Marxists. It is an organization/movement formed by and still led by committed Marxists. The only path they see to black equality is the worldwide adoption of Marxist principles. The people who do not know this (and I suspect it’s the vast majority of those who have recently joined the movement) are the ones with their heads in the sand. To date, I have seen nothing anywhere about members or leaders of the “movement” repudiating the goals of the founders and leaders of the “organization”. I’ll gladly support a movement to end systemic racism. I’d even (perish the thought) march arm in arm with Wades in its pursuit. But not if Marxism is the end game.

Lenny sums it up beautifully...for some reason Sultan etc want to totally dismiss this...that they are COMMITTED Marxists. The radical left simply wants to ignore this and I would ask why?. It isn't some non profit "co opting" the name, it is the ACTUAL view of the BLM. the video doesn't lie. I can support standing against racism, I can/do support peaceful protests, I support the black MU athletes and all black athletes in trying to use their voice for change(They are the leaders of tomorrow) but I cannot and will not support anything that leads to Marxism as Lenny said. Do we really need to change the name of Aunt Jemima syrup(the family is against it) or Uncle Ben's rice, or Eskimo pies, or the City of Columbus(ohio's name). None of this is REAL change. I don't know how any of that will make the black community suddenly say "okay I feel so much better now". It's things like that, and the violent protests, the desecrating of historical statues etc that are going to divide the country more than bring it together. That concerns me greatly.

[wadesworld]

Yup. Just willingly keeping your heads in the sand. Which is your right. But you’ll be on the wrong side of history. A history that’s been a long time coming.

Communism here we come!

[muguru]

Lenny ... which BLM do you believe Marquette University and hundreds of other schools, hundreds of corporations, thousands of religious groups and tens of millions of Americans have spoken out in support of in recent weeks:

A) The concept that the lives of black people are no less valuable than that of anyone else and systemic racism is an evil that must be ended.
B) A neo-Marxist organization that seeks to destroy the capitalistic system, end the traditional family structure and rid the country of law enforcement.

If you choose B, you're either lying or clearly not paying attention. 
If you choose A, then what's your point other than to distract from the real issues* and discredit a phrase that's become emblematic of the entire movement? Why is it so important for you to conflate what are obviously two different ideas?

* Memo: America is not embracing Marxism anytime soon, you Chicken Little, fear-mongering, Sean Hannity wannabes. Amazing how easy some people frighten.

Talk about having their head buried in the sand...or just being argumentative to be argumentative because i honestly can't believe you would be this ignorant. If you don't believe that the radical left(which Biden is a part of) doesn;t want to end Capitalism and make this a progressive socialist country you're flat out ignorant. That's FACTUAL. If you don't actually believe that the radical left doesn't want to completely abolish police departments you're ignorant(people have said this is what they want) if you don't believe that the radical left isn't attacking religion and traditional family structure you're ignorant. What have you been paying attention to? There's examples of this all over. Turn on your TV and watch. Wow.

One of the most baffling things to me on scoop is how many of you radical left have spoken out before that you SUPPORT capitalism(using NIL as an Example) yet are going to turn around and vote for a candidate that will move this country closer t socialism than we have ever been. FACT. Makes no sense, but also proves it out that you're not voting FOR Biden you're voting against Trump. Terrible way to vote.

[wadesworld]

Talk about having their head buried in the sand...or just being argumentative to be argumentative because i honestly can't believe you would be this ignorant. If you don't believe that the radical left(which Biden is a part of) doesn;t want to end Capitalism and make this a progressive socialist country you're flat out ignorant. That's FACTUAL. If you don't actually believe that the radical left doesn't want to completely abolish police departments you're ignorant(people have said this is what they want) if you don't believe that the radical left isn't attacking religion and traditional family structure you're ignorant. What have you been paying attention to? There's examples of this all over. Turn on your TV and watch. Wow.

One of the most baffling things to me on scoop is how many of you radical left have spoken out before that you SUPPORT capitalism(using NIL as an Example) yet are going to turn around and vote for a candidate that will move this country closer t socialism than we have ever been. FACT. Makes no sense, but also proves it out that you're not voting FOR Biden you're voting against Trump. Terrible way to vote.

Lol. I think guru thinks any person who’s ever voted for a democrat is a “radical left” who wants all these things.

Seriously, stick to Twitter updates on recruits. You’ve proven to be entirely clueless on any other topic here.

[muguru]

Yup. Just willingly keeping your heads in the sand. Which is your right. But you’ll be on the wrong side of history. A history that’s been a long time coming.

Communism here we come!

You're the one with your head in the sand...you're voting for Biden, if you don't think he won;t bring this country closer to socialism and communism then you're completely ignorant. You're not voting for him, you're voting against Trump(like many other Americans) because you HATE him. Thought we aren't supposed to hate in this country??

You're also one of the best here at deflection when you cannot dispute FACTS. Like BLM's founder openly admitting they are practicing Marxists. The video has been posted. It's not having our heads "in the sand" It's factual video from the founder. No matter how much you want to ignore it or spin it, you simply can't run from it. She said it. Accept it.  What is with you radical leftists anyway??

[Pakuni]

Talk about having their head buried in the sand...or just being argumentative to be argumentative because i honestly can't believe you would be this ignorant. If you don't believe that the radical left(which Biden is a part of) doesn;t want to end Capitalism and make this a progressive socialist country you're flat out ignorant. That's FACTUAL. If you don't actually believe that the radical left doesn't want to completely abolish police departments you're ignorant(people have said this is what they want) if you don't believe that the radical left isn't attacking religion and traditional family structure you're ignorant. What have you been paying attention to? There's examples of this all over. Turn on your TV and watch. Wow.

One of the most baffling things to me on scoop is how many of you radical left have spoken out before that you SUPPORT capitalism(using NIL as an Example) yet are going to turn around and vote for a candidate that will move this country closer t socialism than we have ever been. FACT. Makes no sense, but also proves it out that you're not voting FOR Biden you're voting against Trump. Terrible way to vote.

OK, Tucker.
You should probably leave the country before you're forced into a re-education camp.

[Uncle Rico]

Congratulations to Coach Killings and his fellow assistant coaches

[Newsdreams]

Now this is exactly what I'm talking about..because you don't want to listen to these people(because they don't share your radical points of view) you complete dismiss them and blast them for being this or that. Why?? You say Candace Owens is a "mercenary nut", You make a claim that you know who Muhhamad Ali was better than his own son and that David Clarke would have joined the KKK. These are the views of a radical leftist. You know none of this to be true. Not a single thing of it. But that doesn't stop you from trying to portray these people as being disingenuous and showing your discontent for them. That's as harmful of a view/ thought as racism is whether you want to believe it or not.

LoL. First off I'm hardly radical left. Yes, she is a mercenary going where she can make a buck, do you know her real history? Do the research but not only Fox News research. Fact is Ali was totally anti Vietnam war, went to prison and was pro Malcom X, followed Islam and change his name to Ali. Sometimes sons don't really know their parents and viceversa. By his interviews I could always tell Clark hates being black. And here is how he can be best remembered
"In Clarke's final term, at least four people, including a newborn, died at the Milwaukee County Jail under his watch.

The county has agreed to pay  nearly $7 million to the family of one of those who died. Three workers at the jail have been charged criminally in connection with that inmate's death. "
You live in a cocoon guru and I sincerely feel bad for you.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Congratulations to Coach Killings and his fellow assistant coaches

Too bad they’re Marxists.

[wadesworld]

I hope none of the snowflakes that will be fleeing the communist country we will have if Biden is elected president are paying attention to any of the Big East programs and the people involved with them on Instagram. A LOT of support coming from the biggest names in the conference. Sad!

[Newsdreams]

You're the one with your head in the sand...you're voting for Biden, if you don't think he won;t bring this country closer to socialism and communism then you're completely ignorant. You're not voting for him, you're voting against Trump(like many other Americans) because you HATE him. Thought we aren't supposed to hate in this country??

You're also one of the best here at deflection when you cannot dispute FACTS. Like BLM's founder openly admitting they are practicing Marxists. The video has been posted. It's not having our heads "in the sand" It's factual video from the founder. No matter how much you want to ignore it or spin it, you simply can't run from it. She said it. Accept it.  What is with you radical leftists anyway??

Early 90's was in a group as a consultant that confronted Trump and took him down. He is as real as 9-9-9. He is a made up much about nothing that is why there is no real policy in the US government right now. Trump only cares about Trump.

[Uncle Rico]

 

Too bad they’re Marxists.

I’m serious.  The goals of what they are trying to accomplish are impressive.  As coaches, they could tell their players to shut up and dribble but they want to help educate them and make them engage with their community in positive ways.  That is more than can be said for most of us arguing about it on a message board.  It’s a great thing he’s coaching at Marquette and is in my Milwaukee community.

[muguru]

Lol. I think guru thinks any person who’s ever voted for a democrat is a “radical left” who wants all these things.

Seriously, stick to Twitter updates on recruits. You’ve proven to be entirely clueless on any other topic here.

Mmmk...you're the clueless one. Why won't you acknowledge the BLM founder saying they are practicing Marxists?? I know why...because you're a total hypocrite. You are part of the radical left, it's obvious, and it's also obvious to anyone that pays attention, that is what the left has become. It didn't use to be that way.

So you'll admit you aren't voting FOR Biden, but rather against Trump?? Because a vote for Biden means you ARE "radical left". Let's put it this way...and I'm going to need to shower after saying this..it grosses me out, but sometimes the truth is hard to accept..but as terrible of a candidate as she was..Hillary Clinton would do a better job of running this country than Joe Biden would. That's simply the truth. That's really saying something. I'm going to go throw up now, but at least I'm willing to acknowledge facts even if they aren't what I want to believe or admit.

[muguru]

Congratulations to Coach Killings and his fellow assistant coaches

+1000

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I’m serious.  The goals of what they are trying to accomplish are impressive.  As coaches, they could tell their players to shut up and dribble but they want to help educate them and make them engage with their community in positive ways.  That is more than can be said for most of us arguing about it on a message board.  It’s a great thing he’s coaching at Marquette and is in my Milwaukee community.

Exactly. This “BLM IS MARXIST” bullsh*t just gives closed minded people a reason to keep their minds closed.

[Silkk the Shaka]

You still don’t get it. Do you really think that’s what people are marching for?  Why people are saying Black Lives Matter?  That they are Marxists or sympathizing with Marxist ideology?

This is just a distraction. Don’t be distracted.

Ummm... it's not a distraction. People who have a firm grasp of Marxist priciples are the ideal people to lead the movement IMO. Maybe listen to what they're saying and learn something from them rather than be scared by conservatives trying to boogeyman the term and subsequently erase what the leaders themselves are saying. They mean what they are saying, and that, to me, is a very good thing!

BLM is not just about everyone being nicer to each other, reading White Fragility and feeling properly guilty, or cops getting more sensitivity training. It's about understanding that the current system, as constructed, necessarily requires a permanent underclass, and the overpolicing of black people is one of many planks power uses in keeping them a permanent underclass.

The multi-generational systematic theft/suppression of black wealth is the real overarching issue, and current capitalism with more woke phrasing is not going to move the needle on that.

Lenny's is correct, but he disagrees with their goal. You, on the other hand, are trying to deny that the leaders of the movement are saying what they are actually saying, and that's a big part of the problem too.

Your heart seems to be in the right place, so I encourage you and others in a similar spot to listen to what the leaders are saying and try to understand why they are saying it!

[tower912]

Black Lives Matter=Communists.

Never mind.   Not worth it.

[muguru]

I hope none of the snowflakes that will be fleeing the communist country we will have if Biden is elected president are paying attention to any of the Big East programs and the people involved with them on Instagram. A LOT of support coming from the biggest names in the conference. Sad!

How come all these hollywood elites and others that said they would leave this country if Trump was elected never did?? Can you answer that?? I always tell anyone, if you're THAT unhappy with America and it's leader, then leave. Go someplace else. I don;t care who you are. me, you, anyone. If you're gong to say you will, then do it. It's really that simple. I say the same thing about people that constantly bitch about their job...if you're that unhappy, leave. No one is stopping you. I just don't get people that bitch and bitch and bitch but then don't do anything to change their unhappiness. Does that make any sense?? A simple concept...why stay someplace that you're unhappy?? Is bitching about it constantly going to change anything? Nope. That goes for living in America, being in an unhappy relationship, or working a job you don't like. Simply leave, make yourself happier. Its simple.

[Newsdreams]

How come all these hollywood elites and others that said they would leave this country if Trump was elected never did?? Can you answer that?? I always tell anyone, if you're THAT unhappy with America and it's leader, then leave. Go someplace else. I don;t care who you are. me, you, anyone. If you're gong to say you will, then do it. It's really that simple. I say the same thing about people that constantly bitch about their job...if you're that unhappy, leave. No one is stopping you. I just don't get people that bitch and bitch and bitch but then don't do anything to change their unhappiness. Does that make any sense?? A simple concept...why stay someplace that you're unhappy?? Is bitching about it constantly going to change anything? Nope. That goes for living in America, being in an unhappy relationship, or working a job you don't like. Simply leave, make yourself happier. Its simple.

Or you can change and make it better. Which is not the real policy right now.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

How come all these hollywood elites and others that said they would leave this country if Trump was elected never did?? Can you answer that?? I always tell anyone, if you're THAT unhappy with America and it's leader, then leave. Go someplace else. I don;t care who you are. me, you, anyone. If you're gong to say you will, then do it. It's really that simple. I say the same thing about people that constantly bitch about their job...if you're that unhappy, leave. No one is stopping you. I just don't get people that bitch and bitch and bitch but then don't do anything to change their unhappiness. Does that make any sense?? A simple concept...why stay someplace that you're unhappy?? Is bitching about it constantly going to change anything? Nope. That goes for living in America, being in an unhappy relationship, or working a job you don't like. Simply leave, make yourself happier. Its simple.

I would rather improve it.

[wadesworld]

How come all these hollywood elites and others that said they would leave this country if Trump was elected never did?? Can you answer that?? I always tell anyone, if you're THAT unhappy with America and it's leader, then leave. Go someplace else. I don;t care who you are. me, you, anyone. If you're gong to say you will, then do it. It's really that simple. I say the same thing about people that constantly bitch about their job...if you're that unhappy, leave. No one is stopping you. I just don't get people that bitch and bitch and bitch but then don't do anything to change their unhappiness. Does that make any sense?? A simple concept...why stay someplace that you're unhappy?? Is bitching about it constantly going to change anything? Nope. That goes for living in America, being in an unhappy relationship, or working a job you don't like. Simply leave, make yourself happier. Its simple.

Says the guy constantly whining that MU isn’t a blue blood.

[muguru]

Early 90's was in a group as a consultant that confronted Trump and took him down. He is as real as 9-9-9. He is a made up much about nothing that is why there is no real policy in the US government right now. Trump only cares about Trump.

A typical lib talking point about Trump. The problem with people and Trump is they only listen to what he says and don't pay attention to what he does. There has been a TON of great policy under Trump and I also think another big problem people have with him is he has done the things he has said he would do. Liberals aren't used to that from a President on their side. #promisesmadepromiseskept

Tell me what Biden is about..I'm being honest. Do you actually know?? Does anyone know?? He won't come out of his basement. tell me one good policy you think Biden will implement as President. The guy has mental faculty problems, serious mental faculty problems. Again, I would have a lot of respect for anyone here that willingly admits they aren't voting FOR Biden, but rather against Trump. Because that's what people will be doing. I posted a FOX poll that shows an overwhelming majority of democrats will vote against Trump as opposed to FOR Biden. Is that really what we as Americans should be advocating?? Hatred??

[muguru]

Exactly. This “BLM IS MARXIST” bullsh*t just gives closed minded people a reason to keep their minds closed.

Close minded?? Fluffy, the co founder of BLM ADMITS openly they are "practicing Marxism". I don't know why you are trying to act like someone is making that up. They aren't. Why won't you acknowledge this, and why are you just dismissing it so easily?? Because you don't want to accept something FACTUAL as being true?? I don't get it.