Win the Day

[duanewade]

Voter fraud isn't just rare, it's incredibly difficult for a low value offense. So you expect people to what, forge documentation of a dead person, file a change of address for said dead person, all so they can get a ballot, accurately forge said dead person's signature, fill it out, and send it back? For ONE vote? It doesn't make any sense. The value isn't remotely worth the effort to get one vote. If you really think about it, the idea of widespread voter fraud is preposterous.

No, what I want is free and fair elections that encourage all Americans of voting age to cast a ballot. I can't imagine why anyone would not want the same. It would also encourage BOTH parties to run on platforms that broadly benefited everyone, not just an ardent minority.

Or perhaps it just involves showing up and saying you're someone still on an outdated voter roll in a non-voter ID state (i.e.: Illinois, California) who has died or moved away and in turn allows one person to vote multiple times and in turn violate the sanctity of a fair and honest election.  Such fraud would completely diminish one person's right to think and vote differently than someone else in a one vote per person country that claims to be a democracy.

There is a old saying that you're entitled to you own opinions but not your own facts. 

[muguru]

Or perhaps it just involves showing up and saying you're someone still on outdated voter roll in a non-voter ID state (i.e.: Illinois, California) who has died or moved away and in turn allows one person to vote multiple times and in turn violate the sanctity of a fair and honest election.  Such fraud would completely diminish one person's right to think and vote differently than someone else in a one vote per person country that claims to be a democracy.

There is a old saying that you're entitled to you own opinions but not your own facts.

Going...going..gone! That one is way way way out of here. Another one that just owned the libs! Well done Duane.

[Herman Cain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520

[Uncle Rico]

Going...going..gone! That one is way way way out of here. Another one that just owned the libs! Well done Duane.

He's wrong.  You're wrong, too.  Again.

[muguru]

He's wrong.  You're wrong, too.  Again.

Nope..all you need to do is look it up Rico, I know that might be a difficult thing for someone like you to know how to do, but, it's out there. You can keep saying we are wrong, but that would be a lie. Something you know all about from your side of the aisle. They are masters at it. At least you have learned that.

Here...I did the work for you..it was fun exposing you, there's absolutely no way of you weaseling your way out of this one, it's all right here in front of you

https://www.ktvu.com/news/loophole-could-allow-double-voting-in-california-primary-election and...that's Ballgame

[Uncle Rico]

Nope..all you need to do is look it up Rico, I know that might be a difficult thing for someone like you to know how to do, but, it's out there. You can keep saying we are wrong, but that would be a lie. Something you know all about from your side of the aisle. They are masters at it. At least you have learned that.

Here...I did the work for you..it was fun exposing you, there's absolutely no way of you weaseling your way out of this one, it's all right here in front of you

https://www.ktvu.com/news/loophole-could-allow-double-voting-in-california-primary-election Ballgame

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

Here's a study from Republican lawyers

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_1139085

Maybe expand your worldview beyond Mark Belling and you'll learn something.  You might even be able to learn how to write a sentence!

[Uncle Rico]

But back to the original topic, it's great Marquette is working to get students to vote in November.  Proud of the school! 

[brewcity77]

There is a old saying that you're entitled to you own opinions but not your own facts.

I don't disagree, but the facts are that voter fraud is incredibly rare and not remotely worth the effort for the payoff.

The more important part, though, is the part you ignored. The part about both parties having to create platforms that appeal to a broad majority.

Expanding time and creating a national holiday wouldn't be a move to increase fraud, it would be strictly to increase turnout. Shouldn't everyone want every legal aged voter to have the chance to vote?

[muguru]

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

Here's a study from Republican lawyers

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_1139085

Maybe expand your worldview beyond Mark Belling and you'll learn something.  You might even be able to learn how to write a sentence!

I just pummeled you so badly, you deflected it, as you usually do...Outstanding!! And when you use sources like the Huffington Post & Brennan Center for anything...you have ZERO credibility(not that you ever had even a shred of it). This ball game is over 

[Uncle Rico]

I don't disagree, but the facts are that voter fraud is incredibly rare and not remotely worth the effort for the payoff.

The more important part, though, is the part you ignored. The part about both parties having to create platforms that appeal to a broad majority.

Expanding time and creating a national holiday wouldn't be a move to increase fraud, it would be strictly to increase turnout. Shouldn't everyone want every legal aged voter to have the chance to vote?

One would think

[Johnny B]

Guru isn't wrong.   I voted for Reagan in 84 to impress a girl.   We all do stupid crap.


To his larger point, there are a near infinite number of potential influencers out there.  Like everyone else, the young people will hear a lot of them and then choose.

probaly could of just said you voted for him eh?

[muguru]

I don't disagree, but the facts are that voter fraud is incredibly rare and not remotely worth the effort for the payoff.

The more important part, though, is the part you ignored. The part about both parties having to create platforms that appeal to a broad majority.

Expanding time and creating a national holiday wouldn't be a move to increase fraud, it would be strictly to increase turnout. Shouldn't everyone want every legal aged voter to have the chance to vote?

They have every chance...November 3rd, they go to the polls like everyone else can. That's the day, everyone knows that. There shouldn't be more time needed, for what?? If voting is important enough to someone, you make time to do it, on November 3rd.

[Uncle Rico]

I just pummeled you so badly, you deflected it, as you usually do...Outstanding!! And when you use sources like the Huffington Post & Brennan Center for anything...you have ZERO credibility(not that you ever had even a shred of it). This ball game is over 

You obviously didn't read the links.  I'm not surprised.  If you would have, you could link to dozens of articles, research papers and studies(including those by Republicans) that prove the notion of voter fraud being minuscule and not compromising a single election. 

Educate yourself.

[Herman Cain]

Poll Tax solves all the electoral ID problems. ID submitted at time of tax payment. Poll machine configured similar to ATM, person comes in and inputs One of several ID methods ( social security, drivers license, Other State ID etc) , ballot Prints out, ballot is voted and then resubmitted to the machine .

$100 annually a  voter. Those who cannot afford it will be able to receive payments from political parties. Political parties will love it because they get a more efficient way to communicate their message.

165 million people voted, Poll Tax mechanism raises $16. 5 Billion a year. Enough to fully fund the automated system and qualified people to run it. The remainder is given back as a dividend to reduce  national debt.

[brewcity77]

They have every chance...November 3rd, they go to the polls like everyone else can. That's the day, everyone knows that. There shouldn't be more time needed, for what?? If voting is important enough to someone, you make time to do it, on November 3rd.

Then make it a national holiday, right? So everyone has the chance? Because people have to work, they have childcare obligations, and not everyone has an equal ability to carve time out of their schedule on a weekday workday schoolday.

There's no reasonable objection to that. And expanding the time only makes sense, unless you would rather expand vote by mail & absentee voting for people that don't have the schedule flexibility.

[MU82]

But back to the original topic, it's great Marquette is working to get students to vote in November.  Proud of the school!

Me too, Rico.

In fact, I'd vote this as the best post of the day. And I'd vote for it multiple times!

[Uncle Rico]

Poll Tax solves all the electoral ID problems. ID submitted at time of tax payment. Poll machine configured similar to ATM, person comes in and inputs One of several ID methods ( social security, drivers license, Other State ID etc) , ballot Prints out, ballot is voted and then resubmitted to the machine .

$100 annually a  voter. Those who cannot afford it will be able to receive payments from political parties. Political parties will love it because they get a more efficient way to communicate their message.

165 million people voted, Poll Tax mechanism raises $16. 5 Billion a year. Enough to fully fund the automated system and qualified people to run it. The remainder is given back as a dividend to reduce  national debt.

The 24th Amendment prohibits poll taxes.  Good luck

[Uncle Rico]

Me too, Rico.

In fact, I'd vote this as the best post of the day. And I'd vote for it multiple times!

Sadly, some people want to make it harder to vote and exercise their rights as American citizens. 

[brewcity77]

Honest question for those who think one weekday for voting is sufficient, at what point does absentee, early voting, and vote by mail become too much? I mean, Donald Trump himself votes by mail, so I assume some voting by mail is okay. But at what point do you invalidate an election?

2%? 5%? 10%?

[Pakuni]

The 24th Amendment prohibits poll taxes.  Good luck

He's just trolling.

[Newsdreams]

Or perhaps it just involves showing up and saying you're someone still on an outdated voter roll in a non-voter ID state (i.e.: Illinois, California) who has died or moved away and in turn allows one person to vote multiple times and in turn violate the sanctity of a fair and honest election.  Such fraud would completely diminish one person's right to think and vote differently than someone else in a one vote per person country that claims to be a democracy.

There is a old saying that you're entitled to you own opinions but not your own facts.

Amazing how low IQ racists stick together.
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-10/trump-commision-on-election-integrity-found-no-evidence-of-voter-fraud

[MU82]

Honest question for those who think one weekday for voting is sufficient, at what point does absentee, early voting, and vote by mail become too much? I mean, Donald Trump himself votes by mail, so I assume some voting by mail is okay. But at what point do you invalidate an election?

2%? 5%? 10%?

Oh, that one's easy.

Trump and all his sycophants = 100% OK to vote by mail.

Everybody else = 0% OK.

Duh.

[wadesworld]

What I have learned here is that those crying about uninformed people voting seem to be incredibly uninformed. Ironic.

[Herman Cain]

The 24th Amendment prohibits poll taxes.  Good luck

I know, I think it was a bad amendment. Almost as bad as the 16th amendment.

With the technology today a high quality voter  system  could have been built. Would actually engage people in the process . 

US is still the best country in the world and the free enterprise system is the best way to secure everyone's freedom.

[muguru]

You obviously didn't read the links.  I'm not surprised.  If you would have, you could link to dozens of articles, research papers and studies(including those by Republicans) that prove the notion of voter fraud being minuscule and not compromising a single election. 

Educate yourself.

And this is the least surprising thing ever...you saying it's okay to commit voter fraud as long as it doesn't compromise an election, why am I not the least bit surprised you would take this stance. Typical from a left wing whack job. You know what really exposes your hypocrisy?? The fact that when it comes to student athletes being compensated you scream about the fact that you believe in Capitalism, and yet you vote for the party who's platform promotes and encourages socialism.