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Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« on: April 20, 2020, 08:59:58 PM »
Looks like the Big East is going to be highly competitive again next year.  A quick look up and down the rosters of the top  teams  and it looks like most will continue to be solid with the core of their teams,quite a few decent transfers, plus some nice incoming recruits . For example Seton Hall picked up Bryce Aiken . 

https://shupirates.com/news/2020/4/20/mens-basketball-seton-hall-adds-dynamic-guard-bryce-aiken-for-2020-21-season.aspx

Also teams like  Villanova were able to keep a quality guy like JRE in school for his sophomore season .
https://www.vuhoops.com/villanova-basketball/2020/4/14/21220871/villanovas-jeremiah-robinson-earl-to-return-nba-draft

U Conn had some momentum, with a 19-12 record and will be a very tough conference foe out of the gate.
https://uconnhuskies.com/news/2020/3/24/mens-basketball-tough-identity-young-talent-keep-mbb-on-the-rise.aspx

 Mike Anderson did a nice job with very little at The Johnnies and I would not be surprised to see him take that team up a notch. Georgetown has some question marks.

Once again, It will be key for the Big East schools to get out of the gates strong in Non- Conference.  Would be fantastic if the league could  come close to repeating last years non conference.

The only thing we know for sure is that DePaul will comfortable maintain its hold on last place.

https://depauliaonline.com/47951/sports/5-years-after-hiring-dave-leitao-depaul-still-stuck-in-the-bottom-of-the-big-east/

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2020, 10:32:41 PM »
DePaul was the best last place team in the P6. The Big East is very tough.

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 11:23:41 PM »
DePaul was the best last place team in the P6. The Big East is very tough.

They were also the best last place team in 2018-19 when they went 7-11 in the BE and 19-17 overall. Heck, they probably have been the best last place team a few times in the last decade.


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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 07:59:38 AM »
They were also the best last place team in 2018-19 when they went 7-11 in the BE and 19-17 overall. Heck, they probably have been the best last place team a few times in the last decade.

Ehhh a lot of other years had mind blowing non con losses and 18-19 it only came together in conference. This year they truly were the best last place team. 

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 11:02:20 AM »
Butler picks up a quality grad transfer guard from South Carolina. 

https://bustingbrackets.com/2020/04/17/butler-basketball-dawgs-land-graduate-transfer-jair-bolden/

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 11:09:31 AM »
Butler picks up a quality grad transfer guard from South Carolina. 

https://bustingbrackets.com/2020/04/17/butler-basketball-dawgs-land-graduate-transfer-jair-bolden/

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 01:38:50 PM »
Ehhh a lot of other years had mind blowing non con losses and 18-19 it only came together in conference. This year they truly were the best last place team.


I would argue that finishing strong in 18-19 (as opposed to their epic face-plant down the stretch this year) makes it even clearer that they were the best last place team.

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 01:45:46 PM »

I would argue that finishing strong in 18-19 (as opposed to their epic face-plant down the stretch this year) makes it even clearer that they were the best last place team.

Fair enough. Guess it depends if you mean best last place as in better than other conferences or best last place meaning able to compete within the conference.

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2020, 01:46:05 PM »
However unlikely, Saddiq Bey could still return to Villanova as well.
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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2020, 03:39:31 PM »
However unlikely, Saddiq Bey could still return to Villanova as well.

That makes me shudder.
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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2020, 04:00:04 PM »
Fair enough. Guess it depends if you mean best last place as in better than other conferences or best last place meaning able to compete within the conference.

Honestly, I think it means a little of both. But making the distinction between the two is difficult because non-conference games are always weighted toward the early season, and conference games occur late. So the difference between 18-19 and 19-20 might not lie so much in whether DePaul was "better than other last place teams" or "more able to compete within the BE" as it was in starting slow one season and starting hot the other.

Put another way, maybe DePaul just appeared to be better than the last place teams of other conferences last season simply because they started hot. And maybe the season before, they didn't appear as strong simply  because they started slow.

Anyhow, to-MAY-toes vs to-MAH-toes. Either way, they are still the last place team, but not bad as far as last place teams go....

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2020, 08:21:05 PM »
Mike Anderson did a nice job with very little at The Johnnies and I would not be surprised to see him take that team up a notch. Georgetown has some question marks.

Lots of question marks--GU could have as few as three returning players with any significant playing time.


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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2020, 08:30:52 AM »
Honestly, I think it means a little of both. But making the distinction between the two is difficult because non-conference games are always weighted toward the early season, and conference games occur late. So the difference between 18-19 and 19-20 might not lie so much in whether DePaul was "better than other last place teams" or "more able to compete within the BE" as it was in starting slow one season and starting hot the other.

Put another way, maybe DePaul just appeared to be better than the last place teams of other conferences last season simply because they started hot. And maybe the season before, they didn't appear as strong simply  because they started slow.

Anyhow, to-MAY-toes vs to-MAH-toes. Either way, they are still the last place team, but not bad as far as last place teams go....

Either way they had one hell of a successful 2019 calendar year for basketball. Maybe banner worthy there?

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2020, 10:27:56 AM »
Need to look at the rest of the league more, but I think Ty-Shon Alexander is a bigger loss for Creighton than most are realizing. He's pretty much the only reason they were able to shut down Howard and Powell (went 4-0 vs MU/SHU). Their defense is terrible and losing him is like 2013-14 Marquette losing Vander. Their roster as compromised reminds me a lot of our 2018 team. Lots of shooting, but no defense and no interior offense.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2020, 01:00:24 PM »
Yes, FS1 did alot in the broadcast in the focus of Ty-Shon Alexander defense as the season went on. Huge loss as the "let it fly" team also had a stopper.
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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2020, 11:57:54 AM »
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1253655303398318080?s=21
That is definitely a tough schedule for Creighton.

Losing Ty Shon Alexander  will be tough for the Jays, but they do have all the other starters plus Denzel Mahoney returning. They will also have a healthy Jacob Epperson . In addition  Antawn James the big guard  transfer from Memphis State will be eligible. Finally, Ryan Kalkbrenner the freshman big man  will be coming on line.



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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2020, 08:52:55 PM »
This is no surprise at all...

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2020, 11:10:46 AM »
This is no surprise at all...

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Good for him. Crazy though Depaul would've probably improved to legit had he returned

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2020, 01:35:27 PM »
St. John's pulled out of the recruitment of a grad transfer due to not having an open scholarship they thought they'd have. That points to Figurora coming back.
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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2020, 07:33:29 PM »
Mac transferring from GTown:

https://sports.yahoo.com/mac-mcclung-transfer-georgetown-212733878.html

Does not look good for Ewing.

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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2020, 10:25:30 PM »
Georgetown's five year record since 2015: 78-82, 31-59 in the Big East.

And for 20-21? Georgetown loses 63% of its scoring and returns two starters, each of which shot under 39 percent on the season.
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Re: Big East Basketball Early 20-21 Outlook
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2020, 06:40:00 AM »
Georgetown's five year record since 2015: 78-82, 31-59 in the Big East.

And for 20-21? Georgetown loses 63% of its scoring and returns two starters, each of which shot under 39 percent on the season.

Is there any serious traction that this could be Ewing's last year? Where are the fans at? As much as we malign Wojo here, I feel like we are light years ahead of where Ewing has Georgetown. Ewing might be the better game coach, but he has been a poor recruiter and roster manager. I can't see any current long-term optimism for the Hoyas right now.
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