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Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 21, 2021, 05:41:26 PM
How about instead of boosters, we focus on first shots in the unvax in the US -> Canada -> Mexico -> Central/South America?

Secure the virus on a global level.

You could MAYBE get buy-in from me on boosters for eldery/at-risk groups.

Otherwise, focus on obtaining herd immunity within our borders and then geographically close->far.

Of course, I'm guessing here, that's not the best way to guarantee top dollar for pfizer/moderna/jj

We all know why that will never happen.

Warriors4ever

Canada? Canada is doing better than we are.

Dish

I heard today, that for the first time in Alabama's recorded history, more deaths have occurred in 2021 than births in the state.

I don't know why, but that seemed crazy to me.

MU82

"The coronavirus is the common cold, folks."

- Rush Limbaugh
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JWags85 on September 17, 2021, 06:00:35 PM
His genre of media/schtick is the worst kind.  Find snippets or stories of the "bad guys", smugly post it, and the add some dumb crowing barb.  Ive unfollowed a bunch of formerly good Twitter follows who started to endlessly retweet idiots like him or his liberal counterparts.  Anyone who can't post something without framing every Dem/Dem supporter as a socialist crony with a dastardly agenda or every Rep/conservative as some MAGA adoring callous lunatic while lifting their own intelligence is just worthless noise, unless you just want to snort some like minded echo chamber political pixie sticks

You've just described the hell hole that is twitter.  Outrage pushes retweets, so that's why it's so popular.  It's all a disgusting performative dumpster fire that encourages dunking on stupid takes.  It's a breeding ground for narcissists.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on September 22, 2021, 09:26:27 AM
You've just described the hell hole that is twitter.  Outrage pushes retweets, so that's why it's so popular.  It's all a disgusting performative dumpster fire that encourages dunking on stupid takes.  It's a breeding ground for narcissists.

I hate to have to agree, but I quit twitter cold turkey probably two years ago or so and it was the right decision.  There is a lot of really funny and incisive commentary on twitter, and I miss some of best accounts I followed - Spencer Hall, Patrick Monahan, Jon Bois, pre-barstool PFT Commenter - but on the whole the platform just became too much and was having a legitimate negative effect on my mental health.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MUBurrow on September 22, 2021, 12:23:57 PM
I hate to have to agree, but I quit twitter cold turkey probably two years ago or so and it was the right decision.  There is a lot of really funny and incisive commentary on twitter, and I miss some of best accounts I followed - Spencer Hall, Patrick Monahan, Jon Bois, pre-barstool PFT Commenter - but on the whole the platform just became too much and was having a legitimate negative effect on my mental health.

100%.  I have dramatically reduced my social media presence in the last five years.  Once you realize that the negative aspects greatly outweigh the positives, you know it's time to step back. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MUBurrow on September 22, 2021, 12:23:57 PM
I hate to have to agree, but I quit twitter cold turkey probably two years ago or so and it was the right decision.  There is a lot of really funny and incisive commentary on twitter, and I miss some of best accounts I followed - Spencer Hall, Patrick Monahan, Jon Bois, pre-barstool PFT Commenter - but on the whole the platform just became too much and was having a legitimate negative effect on my mental health.

Mute is a great function but I don't blame anyone for reducing time on social media
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: MUBurrow on September 22, 2021, 12:23:57 PM
I hate to have to agree, but I quit twitter cold turkey probably two years ago or so and it was the right decision.  There is a lot of really funny and incisive commentary on twitter, and I miss some of best accounts I followed - Spencer Hall, Patrick Monahan, Jon Bois, pre-barstool PFT Commenter - but on the whole the platform just became too much and was having a legitimate negative effect on my mental health.

I got far more pro-active in unfollowing people, and that greatly improved my time on there.  Its a great place for news, especially late breaking stuff, its a great place for some humor, but it can be so toxic.  Accounts that used to be great that pivot to trash, outrage fishing, etc...  Once I realized that and removed that stuff, it helped.

I also have a friend who REPEATEDLY tells me "just remember, Twitter isn't real life"  or "are you actually hearing that, or is it just Twitter noise"  and it helps re-ground me if I've floated into the mix too much.

MU82

I don't do the twitter, and I have never regretted that decision. Facebook and Instagram are "fun" enough.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on September 22, 2021, 01:16:33 PM
I don't do the twitter, and I have never regretted that decision. Facebook and Instagram are "fun" enough.

I don't do Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. I don't feel like I am missing anything.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Jockey on September 22, 2021, 03:32:57 PM
I don't do Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. I don't feel like I am missing anything.

Facebook is great for getting involved in community events and supporting new businesses, thats why I reactivated it after 3yrs. However, I don't understand Twitter, or Instagram and especially don't get Tik Tok.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

TSmith34, Inc.

Ranch. They'll probably put it in fucking ranch.

According to Michael Flynn, the Deep State is going to secretly put the vaccine in salad dressing.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1440644282759614478

Only the best people!
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: TSmith34 on September 22, 2021, 05:32:18 PM
Ranch. They'll probably put it in unnatural carnal knowledgeing ranch.

According to Michael Flynn, the Deep State is going to secretly put the vaccine in salad dressing.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1440644282759614478

Only the best people!

It's not secret, but there is some validity to what he heard.  They are trying to grow leafy vegetables containing mRNA...
https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2021/09/16/grow-and-eat-your-own-vaccines

forgetful

Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 22, 2021, 05:37:26 PM
It's not secret, but there is some validity to what he heard.  They are trying to grow leafy vegetables containing mRNA...
https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2021/09/16/grow-and-eat-your-own-vaccines

Well I learn something new everyday.

Personally, I do not think that is a remotely viable approach.

Mutaman

Quote from: TSmith34 on September 22, 2021, 05:32:18 PM
Ranch. They'll probably put it in unnatural carnal knowledgeing ranch.

According to Michael Flynn, the Deep State is going to secretly put the vaccine in salad dressing.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1440644282759614478

Only the best people!
o
Our former National security adviser

MU82

Nearly half of the unvaccinated say they're willing to get a coronavirus shot. The challenge is trying to get it to them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/23/covid-unvaccinated-but-willing/?utm_campaign=wp_the7&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_the7&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F34c244b%2F614c5e819d2fda9d41df27a2%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F8%2F38%2F614c5e819d2fda9d41df27a2

Gotta do a better job of informing people, transporting people, giving people time off to get the shot and to recuperate if it makes them sick for a day or two, etc.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on September 23, 2021, 07:44:56 AM
Nearly half of the unvaccinated say they're willing to get a coronavirus shot. The challenge is trying to get it to them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/23/covid-unvaccinated-but-willing/?utm_campaign=wp_the7&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_the7&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F34c244b%2F614c5e819d2fda9d41df27a2%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F8%2F38%2F614c5e819d2fda9d41df27a2

Gotta do a better job of informing people, transporting people, giving people time off to get the shot and to recuperate if it makes them sick for a day or two, etc.

Saw a digital billboard on the highway today that said 99% of those hospitalized with COVID were unvaccinated. Frankly, though, at this point, any more communication isn't going to be more effective. Reach is 100% and frequency is beyond saturation.

As I said before, the later stimulus checks and family credits should have been tied to vaccine status. Preaching and mandates are not going to be effective with these holdouts as they are dug in, whether politics or apathy or selfishness.

MU B2002

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 23, 2021, 08:48:05 AM

As I said before, the later stimulus checks and family credits should have been tied to vaccine status. Preaching and mandates are not going to be effective with these holdouts as they are dug in, whether politics or apathy or selfishness.


That's fine.  They can keep all their checks.
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt


MU82

An employee uprising over vaccine mandates? Not so much.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article254435588.html?

Remember those vaccine mandates? They might be working after all.

North Carolina's major health care systems were some of the first employers in the state to announce a COVID vaccine mandate. Now, they're finding that the vast majority of workers are willing to comply.

The deadline for UNC Health's roughly 29,000 employees to get vaccinated was Tuesday. Nearly 95% of those workers are in compliance with the mandate, health system officials said, and just 60 have resigned.

Similarly, 98.6% of more than 35,000 Novant Health employees have either received a dose of the COVID-19 vaccines or have been granted a medical or religious exemption. Just about 1% of workers are non-compliant and have been suspended, according to the hospital system. Those workers have been given five days to get vaccinated, and it's likely at least some — and probably most — will comply.

The same is true of employers across the country. Delta Air Lines, for example, has seen a boost in its employee vaccination rate since announcing that unvaccinated employees would be penalized, with no increase in resignations, the airline said. Tyson Foods, which announced a vaccine requirement in August, cut the number of unvaccinated workers in half in less than a month.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Yeah, we are seeing similar things here.  There was a huge protest when the vaccine mandates were first announced by the local health systems mid-summer, but those have pretty much died down and my understanding is that there are similar numbers to what you are reporting.  I think it goes to show that there are a bunch of people who just don't get around to things until they have to.  They are the same ones shopping for Christmas gifts on December 24.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

I do want to clarify that the government/OSHA requirement isn't a mandate. Employees can still opt out of the vaccine and choose to get frequent testing instead. You aren't required to get the vaccine.

The Sultan

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 23, 2021, 03:29:51 PM
I do want to clarify that the government/OSHA requirement isn't a mandate. Employees can still opt out of the vaccine and choose to get frequent testing instead. You aren't required to get the vaccine.


Also to clarify, it also hasn't been formalized with actual rules yet. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TSmith34, Inc.

Saw a story yesterday that the two largest health care systems in Maine have phased in vaccine mandates (need to be fully vaccinated by 10/15 IIRC) and have only seen 65 out of 33,000+ employees quit because of it, or .19%.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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