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4everwarriors

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 16, 2020, 02:04:23 PM
One other item of note from the Gov today : Golf courses may open .. but need online payment and scheduling tweaks to keep social distance.

It is time to start having legit conversations about ALL low-risk outdoor activities.   Golf isn't the only activity that should be OK.
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Here, here May 1 is write 'round da korner, aina?


"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

Those discussions need to start taking place everywhere.   Construction.  Landscaping.   Nurseries.   Offices with a small number of employees and low foot traffic.    Nobody WANTS this shutdown to go one day love her than it needs to.   But figuring out the proper balance is well nigh impossible.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 16, 2020, 02:14:01 PM
Good thing is that he can rescind the order if things are looking good by then.  Now, if he tried tacking on two more weeks to 5/11... imagine the outrage.

IMO, better to be on the safe side, and get good news, than to appear reckless and have to extend for two additional weeks.

Not a bad point.  I also think Evers is playing politics here.  Maybe the Legislature makes a fuss, files a lawsuit, and its gets shortened to May 10.  Then if there are problems afterwards, he can point the finger of blame elsewhere.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2020, 02:15:46 PM
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Here, here May 1 is write 'round da korner, aina?


Pretty hard to do outdoor fookin' and maintain a safe social distance ai''na?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 16, 2020, 02:29:44 PM

Pretty hard to do outdoor fookin' and maintain a safe social distance ai''na?
Sheep are not known carriers.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2020, 02:20:58 PM
Nobody WANTS this shutdown to go one day love her than it needs to.   But figuring out the proper balance is well nigh impossible.

I love auto-correct.   ;D

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on April 16, 2020, 02:20:58 PM
Those discussions need to start taking place everywhere.   Construction.  Landscaping.   Nurseries.   Offices with a small number of employees and low foot traffic.    Nobody WANTS this shutdown to go one day love her than it needs to.   But figuring out the proper balance is well nigh impossible.

Yup.

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 16, 2020, 02:04:23 PM
One other item of note from the Gov today : Golf courses may open .. but need online payment and scheduling tweaks to keep social distance.

It is time to start having legit conversations about ALL low-risk outdoor activities.   Golf isn't the only activity that should be OK.

Double yup.

Tennis for example. I guess I could understand not allowing play at courts in which folks have to line up outside waiting for a court to clear, but even there you could pretty easily implement social distancing. Otherwise, it's two people with a tennis ball. Make it so those 2 people have to know each other, if you want, but it's a ridiculous activity to ban.

There are ways to gradually open up things, and it is inevitable. We can't keep the country closed forever. All of us could sit down and list businesses that should be allowed to open, even if with some restrictions.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Chili

Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2020, 02:55:36 PM
Yup.

Double yup.

Tennis for example. I guess I could understand not allowing play at courts in which folks have to line up outside waiting for a court to clear, but even there you could pretty easily implement social distancing. Otherwise, it's two people with a tennis ball. Make it so those 2 people have to know each other, if you want, but it's a ridiculous activity to ban.

There are ways to gradually open up things, and it is inevitable. We can't keep the country closed forever. All of us could sit down and list businesses that should be allowed to open, even if with some restrictions.

Tennis requires shared use of equipment - golf does not. I think the issue will come to overcrowding. On golf courses it's easy to minimize size at one time since there are tee times. Now if bike trails and such can have people sign up for times to use and control how many people are in an area we're good. But if Karen and Bill can't keep their distances and crowds form, time to lock em down again.
But I like to throw handfuls...

tower912

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 16, 2020, 02:54:45 PM
I love auto-correct.   ;D

Oops.   Awesome.   Going to leave it there because it is funnier.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Chili on April 16, 2020, 03:02:46 PM
Tennis requires shared use of equipment - golf does not. I think the issue will come to overcrowding. On golf courses it's easy to minimize size at one time since there are tee times. Now if bike trails and such can have people sign up for times to use and control how many people are in an area we're good. But if Karen and Bill can't keep their distances and crowds form, time to lock em down again.


I get where you're coming from, I really do.  But we live in a world full of risks and need to navigate them constantly.


Yes, a shared tennis ball is a risk -- but frankly, it's VERY tiny.    Golfing, yes, people might grab the flag, but again, very small risk. 


The goal shouldn't be to get infections down to zero: that's a fantasy.   


The first 95% is hard enough.  The last 5% is just brutal and people will revolt.

GB Warrior

Plus you are often playing with known contacts - at some point, we do need to be able to expand circles of people who are appropriately practicing social distancing. Such as my hair stylist...

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: GB Warrior on April 16, 2020, 03:49:27 PM
Plus you are often playing with known contacts - at some point, we do need to be able to expand circles of people who are appropriately practicing social distancing. Such as my hair stylist...

40+ years of no buzz cuts might be going out the window soon.

Jockey

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 16, 2020, 03:44:13 PM

I get where you're coming from, I really do.  But we live in a world full of risks and need to navigate them constantly.


Yes, a shared tennis ball is a risk -- but frankly, it's VERY tiny.    Golfing, yes, people might grab the flag, but again, very small risk. 


The goal shouldn't be to get infections down to zero: that's a fantasy.   


The first 95% is hard enough.  The last 5% is just brutal and people will revolt.

Probably the smartest thing said here.

MU82

Quote from: Chili on April 16, 2020, 03:02:46 PM
Tennis requires shared use of equipment

This:

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 16, 2020, 03:44:13 PM
Yes, a shared tennis ball is a risk -- but frankly, it's VERY tiny.

The goal shouldn't be to get infections down to zero: that's a fantasy.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUDPT

Local hospitals in Madison area think whatever the "surge" was or is, is over. Will start doing elective items next week with testing on everyone.

#UnleashSean

You're more likely to die on your way to playing tennis then you are to die from COVID from the ball. Come off it.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: GB Warrior on April 16, 2020, 01:29:22 PM
Expound up that May 10th date. Why?
Question number 24 in this thread that he can't answer.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on April 16, 2020, 05:23:46 PM
You're more likely to die on your way to playing tennis then you are to die from COVID from the ball. Come off it.

You think it's coincidence that the virus emoji looks just like a tennis ball

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 16, 2020, 05:57:29 PM
You think it's coincidence that the virus emoji looks just like a tennis ball

Bruh you gotta keep dat shyt in the conspiracy thread!

Thats a juicy one.

wadesworld

Somebody told me that hair salons can have one customer in at a time under this new Safer at Home order.  Has anybody seen/heard that?  I found the release on the Safer at Home order and it specifically says hair, nail, etc. salons to be closed, but I'm not sure if this is the new order or not (I think it is, because it mentions curbside pickup for libraries, which I believe is new).

4everwarriors

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 16, 2020, 02:29:44 PM

Pretty hard to do outdoor fookin' and maintain a safe social distance ai''na?



Knot four us dudes wit long Johnsons, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Skatastrophy

I love that we're literally at peak infections and people are clamoring to open things back up.  And 1 week after Wisconsin made international news for the idiocy for setting aside shelter-in-place guidelines and holding an election. You're 2-3 weeks from being able to measure the fallout from that vote.

It's like the state is trying to win a Darwin Award.

Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist

Going to be an interesting week in Wisconsin.  Our hospital is seeing many patients improve/get extubated.  previously primary care providers were unable to test patients unless they were immunocompromised or critically ill.  I received an email from the state lab today stating that all health care providers should test everyone effective today, including patients with mild disease.   Looks like we can finally test everyone which is what is needed to get everything up and running again. 
"If a player leaves Marquette and doesn't have some of my blood in him, then I don't think I've done a good job."  Al McGuire

wadesworld

Quote from: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on April 16, 2020, 08:07:46 PM
Going to be an interesting week in Wisconsin.  Our hospital is seeing many patients improve/get extubated.  previously primary care providers were unable to test patients unless they were immunocompromised or critically ill.  I received an email from the state lab today stating that all health care providers should test everyone effective today, including patients with mild disease.   Looks like we can finally test everyone which is what is needed to get everything up and running again.

Great news. Hopefully it lasts. Stay healthy, you and everyone.

bananahammock

From a mke hospital worker...
Good news: haven't had anything close to a surge of Covid patients.

Bad news: lack of demand = over staffed. Started furloughing workers.

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