Wisconsin

[Jockey]

Either way, the average for the last few days is still close to 4000 cases per day. Just awful.

Hospitalizations and deaths will follow.

[shoothoops]

Paul Casey, Emrgency Medicine, Bellin Health, Green Bay, WI said they admit more Covid-19 Pneumonia related patients in Brown County in one day than they do flu patients for an entire flu season year. (He's been there 17 years)

He says he thinks it will not peak until mod November. He also says most cases have been from close family contact.

[🏀]

And a lot more elbow room.

At least my Packers season ticket number has a good chance of moving up significantly.

[Billy Hoyle]

The good news is at this rate we'll have herd immunity in Wisconsin in 2022!

I don't know if the "Wisconsin Herd Immunity" would be a great move for marketing purposes.

[Skatastrophy]

Paul Casey, Emrgency Medicine, Bellin Health, Green Bay, WI said they admit more Covid-19 Pneumonia related patients in Brown County in one day than they do flu patients for an entire flu season year. (He's been there 17 years)

He says he thinks it will not peak until mod November. He also says most cases have been from close family contact.

That's interesting he believes it will peak mid-November. That's usually the beginning of flu season. I expect it to ramp up significantly mid-November, nationwide.

[Galway Eagle]

I don't know if the "Wisconsin Herd Immunity" would be a great move for marketing purposes.

Lmao belongs in Covid humor

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think there is a lot of thought around the idea that flu season won't be as bad due to an increased push to vaccinate and because the stuff we are doing to prevent Covid from spreading (masking, distancing) will prevent the flu from spreading as well.

[MU82]

I think there is a lot of thought around the idea that flu season won't be as bad due to an increased push to vaccinate and because the stuff we are doing to prevent Covid from spreading (masking, distancing) will prevent the flu from spreading as well.

Fingers crossed. A bad flu season would be especially bad this year.

I got my shot!

[GooooMarquette]

Agree there is reason for hope that the flu season may be unusually mild.

Still, I don't know how anyone can accurately predict a peak in hospitalizations for Covid-19 pneumonia by mid-November when newly diagnosed cases are still rising steadily in WI, and the positivity rate has been off the chart (33% yesterday and 43% today). 

https://projects.jsonline.com/topics/coronavirus/tracking/covid-19-cases-testing-and-deaths-in-wisconsin.html

https://www.wbay.com/2020/10/21/wisconsin-adds-4205-coronavirus-cases-record-48-covid-19-deaths-death-rate-goes-back-up/

We will need to see a peak in new cases a good week or two before the peak in hospitalizations, and the numbers don't seem to indicate WI is nearing the peak. The positivity rate in particular is incredible.

[Jockey]

Record 48 deaths in Wisco today. Praying for the best, but signs are pointing upward.

[shoothoops]

Lacrosse, WI

"After a college town's outbreak, deaths at nursing homes mount."

"The bars stayed open. College students got sick. The elderly got infected, and began to die."

The case against herd immunity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

[Uncle Rico]

Lacrosse, WI

"After a college town's outbreak, deaths at nursing homes mount."

"The bars stayed open. College students got sick. The elderly got infected, and began to die."

The case against herd immunity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Depressing story.  Reflects on the selfishness that permeates this nation

[MU82]

But they are only seniors!

Forget that many of them might have lived another 10-15-20 years, gotten to enjoy time with their grandchildren and great-grandchildren, actually liked being alive.

They're worth the sacrifice.

[mu_hilltopper]

Remember that photo of Trinity, packed with patrons?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2020/10/22/milwaukee-bar-face-mask-mandate-trinity-three-fined-1-000/3729032001/

[Galway Eagle]

Remember that photo of Trinity, packed with patrons?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2020/10/22/milwaukee-bar-face-mask-mandate-trinity-three-fined-1-000/3729032001/

Makes sense. I do again think that the general layout of trinity makes it difficult to enforce I mean Milwaukee approved full capacity and expected everyone to disperse evenly around a place like that? They should've said take away the East pub's and the beer garden's capacity then let the remaining two rooms occupants disperse around the entire place.

[Jockey]

per Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
The Republican co-chairwoman of the Legislature’s budget committee said lawmakers have done enough to fight the surging coronavirus pandemic Thursday, echoing the comments of another GOP legislator this week who said there is nothing more they can do. Sen. Alberta Darling of River Hills contended Democratic Gov. Tony Evers has all the powers he needs to deal with COVID-19, even as she and other Republican lawmakers have gone to court to try to limit his ability to act on his own.



We've flattened the peak (Sen. Johnson) and rounded the corner (trump). Nothing more to see here.

[jficke13]

Remember that photo of Trinity, packed with patrons?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2020/10/22/milwaukee-bar-face-mask-mandate-trinity-three-fined-1-000/3729032001/

fines are just a cost of doing business.

[GooooMarquette]

fines are just a cost of doing business.

Sad but true.

If they really wanted to get bars to enforce the rules they'd make the penalty a forfeiture of their liquor license.

Strike 1 - warning.

Strike 2 - 'at least you can still sell jalapeño poppers.'

[GooooMarquette]

I was just looking at the WI numbers and noticed a disturbing trend...beyond the basic increases in cases and hospitalizations. While increases earlier this fall were primarily attributed to younger individuals (mostly the 10-19 and 20-29 demographics), the more recent increases are centered on older individuals. A few numbers:

10-19: Level
Sept 15: ~40/100K
Oct 15: ~40/100K

20-29: ~25% increase
Sept 15: ~60/100K
Oct 15: ~75/100K

30-39: ~200% increase
Sept 15: ~20/100K
Oct 15: ~60/100K

40-49: ~200% increase
Sept 15: ~20/100K
Oct 15: ~60/100K

50-59: ~200% increase
Sept 15: ~20/100K
Oct 15: ~60/100K

60-69: ~200% increase
Sept 15: ~20/100K
Oct 15: ~60/100K

70-79: ~125% increase
Sept 15: ~20/100K
Oct 15: ~45/100K

https://projects.jsonline.com/topics/coronavirus/tracking/covid-19-cases-testing-and-deaths-in-wisconsin.html

I don't know the details, but this hints at what many of us feared - that younger (generally lower risk) people might be spreading the virus to older and more vulnerable parents, grandparents and others. I am sure there are additional reasons for the spikes in the 30-80 demographics (like work and bars), but the temporal relationship suggests younger people who got sick in September spread it to older people who are testing positive now.

[MU82]

per Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
The Republican co-chairwoman of the Legislature’s budget committee said lawmakers have done enough to fight the surging coronavirus pandemic Thursday, echoing the comments of another GOP legislator this week who said there is nothing more they can do. Sen. Alberta Darling of River Hills contended Democratic Gov. Tony Evers has all the powers he needs to deal with COVID-19, even as she and other Republican lawmakers have gone to court to try to limit his ability to act on his own.



We've flattened the peak (Sen. Johnson) and rounded the corner (trump). Nothing more to see here.

Once a human is out of the womb ... fuggettaboutit!

[jesmu84]

fines are just a cost of doing business.

If a fine is less than the profit, it's not a punishment. It's just a tax

[Jockey]

The last five days have been the deadliest of the pandemic in Wisconsin, with 145 deaths from the coronavirus between Monday and Friday.

The death toll now stands at 1,745. The seven-day average for daily deaths is 24; one month ago, it was four.

The quickly rising death toll is a direct result of the rise in cases weeks earlier, state health officials have said.

Because cases have continued to surge since then, hospitalization and death numbers will only get worse in coming weeks.

[tower912]

The overall fatality rate has dropped since March.    But with numbers that high, a surge in fatalities was inevitable.     Just a bad flu. 

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19-did-wisconsin-become-192234715.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tL3NlYXJjaD9wPVdpc2NvbnNpbitjb3ZpZCZmcj15c2V0X2Nocl9zeWNfaHAmZWk9VVRGLTgmZnA9MQ&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAA_LgWO9GMbxhaDVJP3CxSpZx0Ul_Ithgs2bgEhInnGfHRIrmZnM7_QFkfk7VVSd-K-zNofNDCt9j59eF3cHpM5YdtZdGpoUH_xR6vYxgcSkrhacSlW8xoAkBglNPRK3_qXp21c3jjlkIP8WM6Jr6pvjXYJ6Ws-GdD9pQswbtDqV

[buckchuckler]

Nm

[GooooMarquette]

The last five days have been the deadliest of the pandemic in Wisconsin, with 145 deaths from the coronavirus between Monday and Friday.

The death toll now stands at 1,745. The seven-day average for daily deaths is 24; one month ago, it was four.

The quickly rising death toll is a direct result of the rise in cases weeks earlier, state health officials have said.

Because cases have continued to surge since then, hospitalization and death numbers will only get worse in coming weeks.

The IHME model currently projects that the 1,745 deaths will balloon to 6,272 by February 1, assuming existing mandates are kept in place.

The daily death toll, currently at 24, is expected to peak at 64 on December 15, then gradually decrease. On Christmas Day, 61 Wisconsinites are projected to die.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/wisconsin?view=total-deaths&tab=trend

Staggering.