Wisconsin

[Hards Alumni]

That's an unwarranted cheap shot. This is typical of the Illinois-Wisconsin dymanic. We give you a cute nickname like "Cheeseheads" and you call us "F--king Bastards." And then say we're the twats? Wisconsin has a collective anger problem to go with its weight problem, it seems.
And, with all due respect, you're the one who led the charge to bash Illinois in this thread, i.e. "Build that wall." I'm merely responding to the nonsense.
Regardless, we love Wisconsin. You're our feisty little neighbor to the north with the better fishing and good spots to launch our boats (and fireworks!). Truth be told, most of us north of I-80 like you guys way more than our downstate residents.

Thank you for proving my point.  I guess you guys don't understand the humor in being called FIBs... and obviously "build that wall" was a joke... but you must have missed that as well.  Plus humor/sarcasm has problems translating over the internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

Wisconsin 32.0% (21st)
Illinois 31.1%  (27th)

So yes, we're fatter, but not by much    Plus, we're your skinniest neighbor.   

[rocket surgeon]

Everyone should be tested as frequently as possible if we want to get this under control.  What we are doing now is pure stupidity... but that has been the case since March.  Problem is that we haven't scaled our testing because we aren't approaching this like it is a pandemic.

 so, how often? every morning before or after we brush and floss?  twice a day?  what?  we take everyone's temperature.  i take mine multiple times per day, but testing?  let's be reasonable here

[GooooMarquette]

Speaking of Wisconsin and Covid....

Another, um, banner day, with 2,392 new cases reported. Tryin' to give ND and SD a run for their money.

https://twitter.com/DHSWI/status/1309206070137630720?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Pakuni]

Thank you for proving my point.  I guess you guys don't understand the humor in being called FIBs... and obviously "build that wall" was a joke... but you must have missed that as well.  Plus humor/sarcasm has problems translating over the internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States

Wisconsin 32.0% (21st)
Illinois 31.1%  (27th)

So yes, we're fatter, but not by much    Plus, we're your skinniest neighbor.   

Dish better than you take, it seems.

[Hards Alumni]

so, how often? every morning before or after we brush and floss?  twice a day?  what?  we take everyone's temperature.  i take mine multiple times per day, but testing?  let's be reasonable here

I'm sorry, I was told you wanted a functioning society.  I'm being reasonable, our country isn't interested.

Ideally, you get a rapid test in the morning every day.  Short of a vaccine, treatment, or disappearance (ha!) daily rapid testing can all but eliminate spread.

[Hards Alumni]

Dish better than you take, it seems.

I mean, it is the better state and Chicago was originally supposed to be part of Wisconsin.

[Pakuni]

I mean, it is the better state and Chicago was originally supposed to be part of Wisconsin.

Wisconsin should be so lucky.

[Galway Eagle]

I mean, it is the better state and Chicago was originally supposed to be part of Wisconsin.

Had to fact check, didn't know it's true. Wonder what Milwaukee or Kenosha or Racine would all be like today has that happened.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

From the Wikipedia:

"During the discussions leading up to Illinois's admission to the Union, the proposed northern boundary of the state was moved twice.[30] The original provisions of the Northwest Ordinance had specified a boundary that would have been tangent to the southern tip of Lake Michigan. Such a boundary would have left Illinois with no shoreline on Lake Michigan at all. However, as Indiana had successfully been granted a 10-mile (16 km) northern extension of its boundary to provide it with a usable lakefront, the original bill for Illinois statehood, submitted to Congress on January 23, 1818, stipulated a northern border at the same latitude as Indiana's, which is defined as 10 miles north of the southernmost extremity of Lake Michigan. However, the Illinois delegate, Nathaniel Pope, wanted more, and lobbied to have the boundary moved further north. The final bill passed by Congress included an amendment to shift the border to 42° 30' north, which is approximately 51 miles (82 km) north of the Indiana northern border. This shift added 8,500 square miles (22,000 km2) to the state, including the lead mining region near Galena. More importantly, it added nearly 50 miles of Lake Michigan shoreline and the Chicago River. Pope and others envisioned a canal that would connect the Chicago and Illinois rivers and thus connect the Great Lakes to the Mississippi."

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Also, Wisconsin should have had St. Paul as well.  The original Northwest Ordinance said that the Northwest Territory could only be divided into a minimum of five states (Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin).  And, after the other four were admitted, the Wisconsin Territory had the Mississippi River as its western border to its source, then it went due north to what is now Canada.

But timber interests wanted to be part of a territory and not a state, so the border was altered to where it is now.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

These border stories are covered in the book How States got their Shapes.

[tower912]

Wisconsin could have had Michigan's Upper Peninsula (and still can as far as I am concerned) except for Toledo.    Ohio got Toledo, Michigan got the UP.    In hindsight, Michigan should have said thanks for taking Toledo.   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wisconsin could have had Michigan's Upper Peninsula (and still can as far as I am concerned) except for Toledo.    Ohio got Toledo, Michigan got the UP.    In hindsight, Michigan should have said thanks for taking Toledo.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_(proposed_U.S._state)

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

so, how often? every morning before or after we brush and floss?  twice a day?  what?  we take everyone's temperature.  i take mine multiple times per day, but testing?  let's be reasonable here

There is actually a possibility to have a test that only detects when you have enough virus to be contagious and requires no lab work.  Done like a pregnancy test or a strip test immersed in a vial.  It’s been sketched out at $1 a day per test.   

The perception is that it won’t detect everyone with the virus and therefore not accurate and not advancing in the FDA, etc.  When in practice this could do what everyone has been advocating for —removing only the contagious from society/economy. 

From what I have read this Seems like a strategic and practical shift that does have merit and certainly isn’t ‘unreasonable’.

[JWags85]

Thank you for proving my point.  I guess you guys don't understand the humor in being called FIBs... and obviously "build that wall" was a joke... but you must have missed that as well.  Plus humor/sarcasm has problems translating over the internet.

I grew up in WI until I left for college and now am back in the state after a decade in Chicago and I have never understood the “humor”. It’s always been cringey to me and was most often said by people who embodied most negative Wisconsin stereotypes and were aggressively proud of rarely, if ever, leaving the state and many had not spent more than an afternoon in Chicago.

[Hards Alumni]

I grew up in WI until I left for college and now am back in the state after a decade in Chicago and I have never understood the “humor”. It’s always been cringey to me and was most often said by people who embodied most negative Wisconsin stereotypes and were aggressively proud of rarely, if ever, leaving the state and many had not spent more than an afternoon in Chicago.

I mean, there was a food cart in Madison named FIBS (Fantastic Italian Beef and Sausage) until it burned.  So there are plenty of people who see the humor in it.  And well, maybe you just know some crummy people who call people FIBS.  I've only ever said it around my friends in jest.  I don't doubt that some people mean it when they say it... but you're right, they're usually pretty trashy people.

There are some people who take offense at getting called fat, jealous, unhappy, and dependent upon Chicago... Like Pakuni did for a page or so before clutching his pearls about being called a FIB (not by me, nor anyone else here) by some specter from the past he has drug into this conversation.  I called him a twat, because he was acting twatty and arrogant.

For the record, anyone who is proud of not traveling is not playing with a full deck.  That's my opinion as well as yours.  But I guess, different strokes, as they say.

[Pakuni]

I mean, there was a food cart in Madison named FIBS (Fantastic Italian Beef and Sausage) until it burned.  So there are plenty of people who see the humor in it.  And well, maybe you just know some crummy people who call people FIBS.  I've only ever said it around my friends in jest.  I don't doubt that some people mean it when they say it... but you're right, they're usually pretty trashy people.

There are some people who take offense at getting called fat, jealous, unhappy, and dependent upon Chicago... Like Pakuni did for a page or so before clutching his pearls about being called a FIB (not by me, nor anyone else here) by some specter from the past he has drug into this conversation.  I called him a twat, because he was acting twatty and arrogant.

For the record, anyone who is proud of not traveling is not playing with a full deck.  That's my opinion as well as yours.  But I guess, different strokes, as they say.

Apparently calling people FIBS* and saying they should be surrounded by a wall is Carlin-level humor, but poking fun of Wisconsinites for their little brother syndrome is "twatty."
You seem needlessly triggered about some mild and good-natured jokes at your state's expense. Lighten up. You live in God's country, after all.

* over which absolutely no one clutches pearls ... we just laugh at the lack of originality.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Speaking of Wisconsinites with anger problems ...
(Nice bad movie reference, though)

Grew up in IL, cuz.   If anything, WI has mellowed me out.

[rocky_warrior]

Well this is strange.  I can only assume from the recent conversation that Covid is "solved' in WI.

[mu_hilltopper]

Well this is strange.  I can only assume from the recent conversation that Covid is "solved' in WI.

Brutal .. https://twitter.com/SarahHauer/status/1309231028884647938

Wisconsin has "unprecedented, near-exponential growth" in new coronavirus case counts, largely driven by young people. More Wisconsinites are in the hospital now with COVID-19 than in April. 

[Pakuni]

Brutal .. https://twitter.com/SarahHauer/status/1309231028884647938

Wisconsin has "unprecedented, near-exponential growth" in new coronavirus case counts, largely driven by young people. More Wisconsinites are in the hospital now with COVID-19 than in April. 

The replies, man.

And apologies for leading the thread astray.  I'll say no more about that.

[GooooMarquette]

Brutal .. https://twitter.com/SarahHauer/status/1309231028884647938

Wisconsin has "unprecedented, near-exponential growth" in new coronavirus case counts, largely driven by young people. More Wisconsinites are in the hospital now with COVID-19 than in April. 

It really is staggering how quickly the numbers have gone up in the past few weeks. And the positivity rate has been hovering in the 18% range, so the rapid increase is likely to continue for a while.

[JWags85]

For the record, anyone who is proud of not traveling is not playing with a full deck.  That's my opinion as well as yours.  But I guess, different strokes, as they say.

That I can agree with, and it baffling defies geography and socioeconomics.  It’s obviously commonly found in “trashy” MURICA folks, but I remember turning off Chicago sports talk radio one time in annoyance cause the hosts said why waste your time with time zone changes or “weird food” when you could just go to Cancun.

On the other hand, I had a roommate who dated a girl whose parents were both wealthy Chicago lawyers and they had a handful of vacation homes...yet she didn’t, nor had she ever, possessed a passport.  She found absolutely nothing odd or bizarre with that.  Same roommate moved to LA and got his MBA at USC. He had a classmate who went to UCSB, grew up in Calabasas, drove a Porsche and talked all the time about his parents matching Bentleys....but his first time ON A F-ING PLANE, was a summer group trip to Asia. Dude had never been farther than NorCal/Vegas/Zona despite growing up in extreme wealth. Just wild.

[Hards Alumni]

Apparently calling people FIBS* and saying they should be surrounded by a wall is Carlin-level humor, but poking fun of Wisconsinites for their little brother syndrome is "twatty."
You seem needlessly triggered about some mild and good-natured jokes at your state's expense. Lighten up. You live in God's country, after all.

* over which absolutely no one clutches pearls ... we just laugh at the lack of originality.

I never claimed I was funny.  As for triggered, I'm not the one who dropped a bunch of insults and then couldn't handle absolutely MASSIVE hit back of being called twatty.  Once.  You were being provocative, so I responded with a mild insult.  Which apparently, makes me little brother  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[The Lens]

A year ago or so a MU classmate posted a picture on FB of his family at a park 2 hours west of Chicago.  I said to my wife, it was the first time I could ever remember a Chicago friend exploring the state of Illinois.  It seems every Chicagoan goes to Wisconsin, Indiana (dunes) or Michigan for quick getaways.  You never hear anyone say, we found a great little spot downstate.

Chicago definitely feels like it's not perfectly at home in Illinois.