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muguru

"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 06, 2020, 06:09:29 PM
The first couple people to release Carton interest also didn't mention us. Only to find out we were one of the first.

On Tuesday morning, Haarms told 247Sports that he also picked up new interest from Xavier, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and Texas Tech.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: muguru on April 07, 2020, 09:47:52 AM
Turner aiming to decide by this weekend...

https://missouri.rivals.com/news/decision-coming-soon-for-transfer-target-turner

did not realize Mizz had an Detroit connection as well...

Missouri's pitch to Turner has centered around setting him up for success both on the court and off it. He said the coaching staff sees him as a leader. He was already familiar with assistant coach Cornell Mann, a fellow Detroit native, and he said he has developed a sense of trust with head coach Cuonzo Martin.

"Just going in knowing that I got two coaches that I can trust with my future, that's big," Turner said of Martin and Mann.

The Missouri coaches also pointed out the success of graduate transfer Kassius Robertson during the 2017-18 season. Robertson came to Missouri from Canisius and led the Tigers in scoring with 16.3 points per game. Turner said he's a bit bigger than Robertson, but he sees their games as similar, and the Tiger staff believes he could make a similar impact as a scorer.

BCHoopster

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 07, 2020, 10:25:39 AM
did not realize Mizz had an Detroit connection as well...

Missouri's pitch to Turner has centered around setting him up for success both on the court and off it. He said the coaching staff sees him as a leader. He was already familiar with assistant coach Cornell Mann, a fellow Detroit native, and he said he has developed a sense of trust with head coach Cuonzo Martin.

"Just going in knowing that I got two coaches that I can trust with my future, that's big," Turner said of Martin and Mann.

The Missouri coaches also pointed out the success of graduate transfer Kassius Robertson during the 2017-18 season. Robertson came to Missouri from Canisius and led the Tigers in scoring with 16.3 points per game. Turner said he's a bit bigger than Robertson, but he sees their games as similar, and the Tiger staff believes he could make a similar impact as a scorer.


If Turner wants real exposure, MU gives him that compared to Missouri.  He will get the ball at both places, time will tell.

Viper

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Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 07, 2020, 09:31:04 AM
If they wanted to sit at the end of the bench, probably.

If they wanted to play, I doubt it.

We've had a ton of guys "transfer down" from the MU program (Blankson, Amoroso, Mortenson, Hazel, R Smith, Steve Taylor Jr., Traci Carter, Cheatham, etc.). With the exception of Blankson, "meh" players - like Koby, Greg and Jamal.

Different for the really talented ones (Mason, Maymon, McKey, Burton, Mbakwe, Hauser and Hauser). Always be a high major looking for guys like that.

Blankson???
Kid had a really nice career for a then pretty strong UNLV team, he was a really big loss
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

The Sultan

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 07, 2020, 12:44:45 PM
Blankson???
Kid had a really nice career for a then pretty strong UNLV team, he was a really big loss


He played one year for a team that lost in the first round of the NIT.
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lawdog77

#882
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 07, 2020, 12:51:54 PM

He played one year for a team that lost in the first round of the NIT.
His stats were nice 17 and 10, shooting 57 from 2 and 36 from 3. We definitely could have used that. He played at UNLV for  two years. The first google search only showed 1 year of playing. He scored over 1000 pts for UNLV

Mr. Sand-Knit

#883
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 07, 2020, 12:55:21 PM
His stats were nice 17 and 10, shooting 57 from 2 and 36 from 3. We definitely could have used that. He played at UNLV for  two years. The first google search only showed 1 year of playing. He scored over 1000 pts for UNLV

Yep
Fluffy spouts off about alot
But it appears he has been following MU for about 2 years
Maybe win an NCAA if he stayed maybe not, but prolly make the NCAAs in 2004
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

bilsu

Quote from: Warrior of Law on April 06, 2020, 04:32:32 PM
Is it good or bad that MU has no one in the transfer portal?

Good: players like MU, coaches, teammates, etc.

Bad: MU has no players who could make a lateral move via transfer.

Probably both.
I think it is good. However, I worry that transfers are still coming. MU has a history of not releasing players until they finish the school year. New transfers are being announce every day.

The Sultan

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 07, 2020, 01:05:48 PM
Yep
Fluffy spouts off about alot
But it appears he has been following MU for about 2 years
Maybe win an NCAA if he stayed maybe not, but prolly make the NCAAs in 2004


I was addressing the "pretty strong UNLV" portion of your statement.  He was a good player who would have clearly had an impact. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: bilsu on April 07, 2020, 01:13:24 PM
I think it is good. However, I worry that transfers are still coming. MU has a history of not releasing players until they finish the school year. New transfers are being announce every day.

There aren't very many guys on the team that are logical transfers. Koby is really the only guy that makes a little sense because he could possibly be in a position grad transfer. Doesn't sound like the immediate transfer rule is going to go into effect for next season. Plus, based on our lack of guard depth, Koby will get plenty of PT.

Besides him, who makes any sense? Bailey is already 23 years old. Greg and Dexter have already used their redshirts. If Jamal is still around, he's not leaving - next year is his best chance at real PT. Theo is the only big on the roster. Symir is going to get a ton of PT next season and seems to love where he's at. That's it - that's the entire returning roster.
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The Sultan

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2020, 01:32:06 PM
There aren't very many guys on the team that are logical transfers. Koby is really the only guy that makes a little sense because he could possibly be in a position grad transfer. Doesn't sound like the immediate transfer rule is going to go into effect for next season. Plus, based on our lack of guard depth, Koby will get plenty of PT.

Besides him, who makes any sense? Bailey is already 23 years old. Greg and Dexter have already used their redshirts. If Jamal is still around, he's not leaving - next year is his best chance at real PT. Theo is the only big on the roster. Symir is going to get a ton of PT next season and seems to love where he's at. That's it - that's the entire returning roster.


Sometimes transfers aren't very logical.
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 07, 2020, 01:35:07 PM

Sometimes transfers aren't very logical.

Obviously. But many of them make a world of sense, and that's all we have to go off. Going into the offseason I wouldn't have been shocked to see a departure or two. But at this point, when all things are considered, it doesn't seem very likely.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

bilsu

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 07, 2020, 10:33:12 AM
If Turner wants real exposure, MU gives him that compared to Missouri.  He will get the ball at both places, time will tell.
What I noticed in the article was that he was watching to see if the teams roster changed. Reading between the lines, I took this to mean that a commitment from Mane or Carton would end his interest in MU.

I think Wojo is telling all three that they will have the ball in their hands. Therefore the idea of two of the three coming is a pipe dream. Hopefully, we get one of them.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Carton and Turner could absolutely play together. I think having an elite PG would brew an attraction for a scorer like Turner.

If there was an either or situation,  it would be Mane and Turner.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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muguru

Quote from: TAMU Garcia on April 07, 2020, 01:43:07 PM
Carton and Turner could absolutely play together. I think having an elite PG would brew an attraction for a scorer like Turner.

If there was an either or situation,  it would be Mane and Turner.

Although if Carton sat out a year(which some have said he wants to do(supposedly)), then Turner wouldn't even play with him.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

jesmu84

Re: Immediate transfer rule - no, I don't think that's going to come to fruition this off-season.

HOWEVA...

Until I'm shown evidence to the contrary, I think with this whole virus/pandemic/not finishing up the postseason for 19/20, the LARGE majority of transfers this off-season will be granted an immediate eligibility waiver.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2020, 01:32:06 PM
There aren't very many guys on the team that are logical transfers. Koby is really the only guy that makes a little sense because he could possibly be in a position grad transfer. Doesn't sound like the immediate transfer rule is going to go into effect for next season. Plus, based on our lack of guard depth, Koby will get plenty of PT.

Besides him, who makes any sense? Bailey is already 23 years old. Greg and Dexter have already used their redshirts. If Jamal is still around, he's not leaving - next year is his best chance at real PT. Theo is the only big on the roster. Symir is going to get a ton of PT next season and seems to love where he's at. That's it - that's the entire returning roster.

I agree with this analysis.

BallBoy

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2020, 01:32:06 PM
There aren't very many guys on the team that are logical transfers. Koby is really the only guy that makes a little sense because he could possibly be in a position grad transfer. Doesn't sound like the immediate transfer rule is going to go into effect for next season. Plus, based on our lack of guard depth, Koby will get plenty of PT.

Besides him, who makes any sense? Bailey is already 23 years old. Greg and Dexter have already used their redshirts. If Jamal is still around, he's not leaving - next year is his best chance at real PT. Theo is the only big on the roster. Symir is going to get a ton of PT next season and seems to love where he's at. That's it - that's the entire returning roster.

I believe Cain makes more sense than Koby. I think Koby is more wishful thinking by some than a true flight risk.

I think Cain would be more likely because he has a good amount of raw potential that hasn't come to fruition. Taking a year off to practice and hone your skills so that your senior year can showcase a more finished product makes sense. If I was him, I would think about redshirting to get better and graduate with my buddy.

wadesworld

I thought only Stan kept players in the Marquette basketball program. I thought Stan left. I figured the program would just fold since no players would want to be here and play under Wojo without Stan forcing them against their will to do so.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Tyrese Martin committed to UConn. MU had been mentioned early in the process. Not sure if he had trimmed his list or not before committing. Too bad, other than Carton might have been the best sit out transfer on the market this season.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Elonsmusk

Quote from: wadesworld on April 07, 2020, 05:28:01 PM
I thought only Stan kept players in the Marquette basketball program. I thought Stan left. I figured the program would just fold since no players would want to be here and play under Wojo without Stan forcing them against their will to do so.

See above. Tell me what player on our roster makes ANY sense to transfer?  I'm glad all are apparently staying. That's good. Yet, not sure we can hang our hat on this as proof positive Wojo is the reason.

Could you share with the board what you see in Wojo that leads you to believe he is above reproach or should be immune from skepticism/criticism?  I'm genuinely curious why for 6 years straight you've been die hard in your support?

wadesworld

Quote from: Elonsmusk on April 07, 2020, 09:40:19 PM
See above. Tell me what player on our roster makes ANY sense to transfer?  I'm glad all are apparently staying. That's good. Yet, not sure we can hang our hat on this as proof positive Wojo is the reason.

Could you share with the board what you see in Wojo that leads you to believe he is above reproach or should be immune from skepticism/criticism?  I'm genuinely curious why for 6 years straight you've been die hard in your support?

I support Wojo because he is the head coach of Marquette's men's basketball program and I'm a fan of the Marquette men's basketball team.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on April 07, 2020, 09:46:50 PM
I support Wojo because he is the head coach of Marquette's men's basketball program and I'm a fan of the Marquette men's basketball team.

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