Transfer portal

[Scoop Snoop]

I hope Marquette can land a 5 as good as Shaquille O'Neal was coming out of high school, though I'd prefer to get a 5 as good as O'Neal was coming out of college.

Then, maybe as a backup, a Mourning-caliber 5.

Because tons of these guys are available every year, and we have a good recruiting budget, so I don't see why we can't get a few of them.

I mean, look at all the total stud 5's Buzz and Crean landed!

Maybe it is just my imagination but do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Maybe it is just my imagination but do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

Hard to tell.  From reading some of these posts, You'd think  Garcia is the next Shaq

[Billy Hoyle]

Weren't you also the guy complaining about Carton not being a good enough guy your alma mater. Lol. GF.

Talent wise, maybe he is (of course this place made Koby out to be a first team All American before he played a game), but if there are the behavioral, off-court issues hinted at in many articles then no, he isn't. No more Mayo's which even Buzz couldn't cover up, or others, which he did.

[Viper]

I see MU as having a lot to highlight to recruits...a strong heritage in winning basketball. Top-shelf facilities. What program has a Fiserv Forum...walking distance from campus? Dedicated fan base. Basketball-only...not competing with football for attention. A basketball-centric Big East Conference. Plus, sell the success of Markus Howard as a 1st team All American. Tout Henry Ellenson as a nba 1st rd draft pick. If you approach DJ Carton, you give him the keys from day one. Karim Mane? Come on down kid, you're my 2-guard from day 1. Marquette is an easy sell.

[panda]

I see MU as having a lot to highlight to recruits...a strong heritage in winning basketball. Top-shelf facilities. What program has a Fiserv Forum...walking distance from campus? Dedicated fan base. Basketball-only...not competing with football for attention. A basketball-centric Big East Conference. Plus, sell the success of Markus Howard as a 1st team All American. Tout Henry Ellenson as a nba 1st rd draft pick. If you approach DJ Carton, you give him the keys from day one. Karim Mane? Come on down kid, you're my 2-guard from day 1. Marquette is an easy sell.

Henry was a first rounder no matter where we went to school. The best sell to top recruits at this point is playing time and lots of it.

[Billy Hoyle]

I forgot about Roseboro. he left of his own choice.

I have no recollection or Aaron Durley.

Sure he did...

[Boone]

Wojo has proven to anyone who's been paying attention that -- unlike Buzz -- he's incapable of coaching anyone up. Shudder to think how far we'll drop when the talent pool dries up.

[WarriorPride68]

Rothstein:

Sources: Illinois transfer Alan Griffin has cut his list to the following programs.

Miami
Syracuse
Dayton
Iowa State
Arizona
Texas

[muguru]

Rothstein:

Sources: Illinois transfer Alan Griffin has cut his list to the following programs.

Miami
Syracuse
Dayton
Iowa State
Arizona
Texas

Too bad, but still give me Carton and Turner and it's all good.

[wadesworld]

Wojo has proven to anyone who's been paying attention that -- unlike Buzz -- he's incapable of coaching anyone up. Shudder to think how far we'll drop when the talent pool dries up.

Who did Buzz "coach up?" Buzz was a better coach. Not a ton of his players developed from a nobody to a star. Butler developed a lot, Vander and Davante developed a decent amount, otherwise no more than what we've seen with Wojo's players (JJJ, Markus, Sacar).

[panda]

Who did Buzz "coach up?" Buzz was a better coach. Not a ton of his players developed from a nobody to a star. Butler developed a lot, Vander and Davante developed a decent amount, otherwise no more than what we've seen with Wojo's players (JJJ, Markus, Sacar).

LOL

[wadesworld]

LOL

Good answer.

[The Sultan]

LOL

Wades is right.

[muguru]

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
·
Now
Xavier has landed a commitment from D-2 star Bryan Griffin of Mercy College in NY, he told @Stadium
. The 6-8, 230-pound big man averaged 19.6 points and 14.5 boards this season and will be able to play this season for Travis Steele and the Musketeers.

[Boone]

Buzz took a collection of >5s and developed them into teams that enjoyed great success in March

[panda]

Good answer.

Agree to disagree. Vander progressed at a normal rate as did Jamil. But Jimmy was not a first round draft pick, Jae and Wes were not pros.

Davante became a significantly smarter player and not just a short burst low post scorer.

He changed DJames' entire MO into a pass first PG.

What he did with Acker and Cubillan was awesome during the 2010 season. No excuses for small guards that year......

Buzz was tough and wasn't for everyone, but the players who bought in made themselves better.

[muguru]

Taylor Eldridge
@tayloreldridge
· 1h
Xavier, Marquette, Minnesota, Utah, Weber State, NJIT and Cal Baptist have already reached out to former Wichita State center Asbjorn Midtgaard, who entered his name in the transfer portal on Friday.

[Nukem2]

Taylor Eldridge
@tayloreldridge
· 1h
Xavier, Marquette, Minnesota, Utah, Weber State, NJIT and Cal Baptist have already reached out to former Wichita State center Asbjorn Midtgaard, who entered his name in the transfer portal on Friday.

Interesting as a one year replacement for Theo in 21-22.  Had some good numbers at WSU.  He is now the 7th scholarship player at WSAu to enter the portal.  Wow.

[panda]

Interesting as a one year replacement for Theo in 21-22.  Had some good numbers at WSU.  He is now the 7th scholarship player at WSAu to enter the portal.  Wow.

I'd take him over the kid from American.

[Elonsmusk]

Who did Buzz "coach up?" Buzz was a better coach. Not a ton of his players developed from a nobody to a star. Butler developed a lot, Vander and Davante developed a decent amount, otherwise no more than what we've seen with Wojo's players (JJJ, Markus, Sacar).

Lol. This guy. What "nobody" has Wojo turned into a star?

Howard was on USA Basketball U-17 team and played at premier high school program at Findlay Prep in Vegas. Stan said he was a program changer ever before he stepped foot on campus. Plus Markus went back home to AZ every off season and trained with his brother.

Wojo has 1 guy who has played in NBA - Henry...which was inevitable.

Buzz?  Wes, Lazar, Jimmy, Jae, Vander, DJO, Buycks, Jamil, and Juan. Everyone of those guys improved under Buzz and developed toughness that enabled them to make to NBA against all odds - even if just for a couple of 10-day contracts.

[muguru]

I'd take him over the kid from American.

Yeah but still nothing spectacular. He's really just a guy. Unfortunately as of now there aren't any bigs even as good as Jayce that have put their name in the portal

[muguru]

Interesting as a one year replacement for Theo in 21-22.  Had some good numbers at WSU.  He is now the 7th scholarship player at WSAu to enter the portal.  Wow.

Averaged 1.5PPG and 2.0 RPG this past year 8 MPG

3.9PPG and 3.1 RPG in 18-19

1.2 and 1.9 as a Freshman.

These are terrible numbers. Very HARD pass. He's a nobody

[monkeyman34]

Lol. This guy. What "nobody" has Wojo turned into a star?

Howard was on USA Basketball U-17 team and played at premier high school program at Findlay Prep in Vegas. Stan said he was a program changer ever before he stepped foot on campus. Plus Markus went back home to AZ every off season and trained with his brother.

Wojo has 1 guy who has played in NBA - Henry...which was inevitable.

Buzz?  Wes, Lazar, Jimmy, Jae, Vander, DJO, Buycks, Jamil, and Juan. Everyone of those guys improved under Buzz and developed toughness that enabled them to make to NBA against all odds - even if just for a couple of 10-day contracts.

Nail meet hammer, agree with this 100%

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Who did Buzz "coach up?" Buzz was a better coach. Not a ton of his players developed from a nobody to a star. Butler developed a lot, Vander and Davante developed a decent amount, otherwise no more than what we've seen with Wojo's players (JJJ, Markus, Sacar).

Again, we have another ProWojer "not getting it". 

Here's a list of all of the MU players playing Pro Ball overseas.  Notice how not one on the list is a Wojo recruit.  The rest are Crean, Buzz, or Transferred In

What does this tell you about Wojo and Recruiting/Development?

Davante Gardner (6'8''-PF-91, graduated '14, plays pro in Japan)
Travis Diener (6'1''-PG-82, graduated '05, plays pro in Italy)
Trent Lockett (6'5''-G-90, graduated '13, plays in Russia)
Derrick Wilson (6'1''-PG-92, graduated '15, plays pro in Denmark)
Jerel McNeal (6'3''-G-87, graduated '09, plays pro in Israel)
Katin Reinhardt (6'5''-G-93) plays for Ratiopharm Ulm in German BBL
Luke Fischer (6'11''-C-94) plays for Gran Canaria in Spanish Liga Endesa
Dwight Buycks (6'3''-PG-89) plays for Shenzhen Leopards in Chinese CBA
David Cubillan (5'11''-PG-87) plays for Guaros in Venezuelan LPB
Andrew Rowsey (5'11''-PG-94) plays for Szolnok in Hungarian A Division
Jamil Wilson (6'7''-F-90) plays for Fiat TO in Italian Serie A
Matt Carlino (6'3''-PG-92) plays for Chorale de Roanne Basket in French ProB
Chris Otule (6'11''-C-90) plays for Sharks Antibes in French Jeep ELITE ProA
Dominic James (5'11''-PG-86) plays for Al Sadd in Qatari D1
Darius Johnson-Odom (6'2''-PG-89) plays for Iowa Wolves in the NBA G League
Vander Blue (6'5''-SG-92) plays for Texas Legends in the NBA G League
Juan Toscano (6'6''-F-93) plays for Santa Cruz Warriors in the NBA G League
Niv Berkowitz (6'3''-SG-86) plays for Elitzur Ironi Ashkelon in Israeli National League
Ousmane Barro (6'10''-C/F-84) plays for CS Dinamo Bucuresti in Romanian Liga Nationala
Maurice Acker (5'8''-PG-87) plays for Lille Metropole Basket in French ProB
Todd Mayo (6'3''-G-91) plays for Pueblo Nuevo in Dominican Rep. Santiago League
Dwight Burke (6'8''-F-86) plays for Recy Saint-Martin in French NM1
Junior Cadougan (6'2''-G-90) plays for St. John's Edge in the NBL Canada
Lawrence Blackledge (6'9''-F-85) played for Golden Eagles in the The Basketball Tournament few monts ago
Jake Thomas (6'3''-G-91) played for Golden Eagles in the The Basketball Tournament last year

[wadesworld]

Again, we have another ProWojer "not getting it". 

Here's a list of all of the MU players playing Pro Ball overseas.  Notice how not one on the list is a Wojo recruit.  The rest are Crean, Buzz, or Transferred In

What does this tell you about Wojo and Recruiting/Development?

Davante Gardner (6'8''-PF-91, graduated '14, plays pro in Japan)
Travis Diener (6'1''-PG-82, graduated '05, plays pro in Italy)
Trent Lockett (6'5''-G-90, graduated '13, plays in Russia)
Derrick Wilson (6'1''-PG-92, graduated '15, plays pro in Denmark)
Jerel McNeal (6'3''-G-87, graduated '09, plays pro in Israel)
Katin Reinhardt (6'5''-G-93) plays for Ratiopharm Ulm in German BBL
Luke Fischer (6'11''-C-94) plays for Gran Canaria in Spanish Liga Endesa
Dwight Buycks (6'3''-PG-89) plays for Shenzhen Leopards in Chinese CBA
David Cubillan (5'11''-PG-87) plays for Guaros in Venezuelan LPB
Andrew Rowsey (5'11''-PG-94) plays for Szolnok in Hungarian A Division
Jamil Wilson (6'7''-F-90) plays for Fiat TO in Italian Serie A
Matt Carlino (6'3''-PG-92) plays for Chorale de Roanne Basket in French ProB
Chris Otule (6'11''-C-90) plays for Sharks Antibes in French Jeep ELITE ProA
Dominic James (5'11''-PG-86) plays for Al Sadd in Qatari D1
Darius Johnson-Odom (6'2''-PG-89) plays for Iowa Wolves in the NBA G League
Vander Blue (6'5''-SG-92) plays for Texas Legends in the NBA G League
Juan Toscano (6'6''-F-93) plays for Santa Cruz Warriors in the NBA G League
Niv Berkowitz (6'3''-SG-86) plays for Elitzur Ironi Ashkelon in Israeli National League
Ousmane Barro (6'10''-C/F-84) plays for CS Dinamo Bucuresti in Romanian Liga Nationala
Maurice Acker (5'8''-PG-87) plays for Lille Metropole Basket in French ProB
Todd Mayo (6'3''-G-91) plays for Pueblo Nuevo in Dominican Rep. Santiago League
Dwight Burke (6'8''-F-86) plays for Recy Saint-Martin in French NM1
Junior Cadougan (6'2''-G-90) plays for St. John's Edge in the NBL Canada
Lawrence Blackledge (6'9''-F-85) played for Golden Eagles in the The Basketball Tournament few monts ago
Jake Thomas (6'3''-G-91) played for Golden Eagles in the The Basketball Tournament last year

HAHA!  So after all the crap NoJos have given Derrick and Jake Thomas, they are now FLAUNTING THEM!

My God!  This is so good!