Transfer portal

[Boone]

Beyond giving away the keys to the kingdom, what exactly does Wojo have to sell that would interest a 5 star? Certainly not his track record of NCAA success

[muguru]

MU was initially interested in Wertz, but they aren't in his final 11...again, this is totally okay. As options start to dwindle and Turner, Griffin and Carton remain available is a good thing for MU.

Jake
@jakeweingarten
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Santa Clara transfer Trey Wertz has cut down his list to 11 programs, he told @Stockrisers
: Arizona, Butler, NC State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Stanford, Virginia, Xavier, Vanderbilt.

Averaged 11.5 points per game and shot 40% from three.

[wadesworld]

So let me get this straight. Wojo is boring, Wojo can't coach, Wojo doesn't win, and he can only sell a five star on coming in and shooting the ball whenever he wants. Yet he has a top 10 recruiting class in the country?

Hmm...

Major flaws in the argument here. But that's never stopped people from making claims so...

[panda]

So let me get this straight. Wojo is boring, Wojo can't coach, Wojo doesn't win, and he can only sell a five star on coming in and shooting the ball whenever he wants. Yet he has a top 10 recruiting class in the country?

Hmm...

Major flaws in the argument here. But that's never stopped people from making claims so...

Definitely not a top 10 class...

[panda]

When has a 5 ever been important in our offense?

Both Garcia and Lewis are capable of playing the 5. If we do sign Gasperini, I wouldn't imagine him playing more than a few minutes a game unless there's extreme foul trouble.

On defense?

Neither Garcia nor Lewis are ready to step in and play significant minutes on defense at the 5 next season.

[Doo]

The head coach has to have "it."  Kids largely sign with a program due to the head coach...

You previously said this...

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 21, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Reality is, is that Stan was basically the guy responsible for getting all of our recruits.

Which is it???  The head coach or the assist coach???

[Elonsmusk]

So let me get this straight. Wojo is boring, Wojo can't coach, Wojo doesn't win, and he can only sell a five star on coming in and shooting the ball whenever he wants. Yet he has a top 10 recruiting class in the country?

Hmm...

Major flaws in the argument here. But that's never stopped people from making claims so...

One good class every 5 years isn't going to get it down, especially not with his coaching acumen. Further, the ace recruiter just left. Killings is impressive though so that was a good hire by Wojo.

[BallBoy]

On defense?

Neither Garcia nor Lewis are ready to step in and play significant minutes on defense at the 5 next season.

That is why you get a grad transfer. 

You are trying so hard to make a conversation with a recruit bad that you are spinning yourself in a circle.

[panda]

Beyond giving away the keys to the kingdom, what exactly does Wojo have to sell that would interest a 5 star? Certainly not his track record of NCAA success

He did have a lot to sell. A lot of it was his visions of the future team once he settled into the program and available playing time because of the train wreck Buzz left.

He can still sell his vision, but opposing coaches should have a pretty easy time recruiting against him given his results over the last six seasons.

[Elonsmusk]

The head coach has to have "it."  Kids largely sign with a program due to the head coach...

You previously said this...

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 21, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Reality is, is that Stan was basically the guy responsible for getting all of our recruits.

Which is it???  The head coach or the assist coach???

Yes. Stan sold the F out of MU and Wojo. Lots of playing time available to sell this past recruiting cycle. Didn't have to sell against another year end implosion either. Losing Sam and Joey opened up a lot of PT.

Question:  What grade do you give Wojo so far?

[Its DJOver]

Me: logs on to the Scoop and sees 4 new pages on the transfer thread today.  Thinks we landed a transfer and there is quality discussion about his role moving forward.

In reality: 4 pages with only one real new piece of info and the rest is the usual Wojo bashing and dumping on former players (side note: considering he had one eye and multiple major leg injuries, starting for an E8 team is a major accomplishment for Otule and should not be diminished).  Whatever grad transfer 5 we get is probably looking at, at most, 15 mpg, he doesn't need to be the second coming of Pat Ewing, he just needs to be serviceable.

[Elonsmusk]

Good interview with Killings taking about a lot of what we are discussing in this thread.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/My-interview-with-Marquette-Associate-Head-Coach-Dwayne-Killings-145502975/?utm_source=247Sports%2520Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=200329_001736_MarquetteGoldenEagles&utm_content=Link

[wadesworld]

Good interview with Killings taking about a lot of what we are discussing in this thread.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/My-interview-with-Marquette-Associate-Head-Coach-Dwayne-Killings-145502975/?utm_source=247Sports%2520Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=200329_001736_MarquetteGoldenEagles&utm_content=Link

Seems very charismatic. He's going to bail Wojo out on the recruiting trail and in huddles. Hopefully he gets the chance to show us what he can do in post game interviews. I'm 90% ready to fire Wojo to hire Killings. If he shows some personality in an interview after a game that seals the deal for me.

[Boone]

Panda:

Yes, "did" is the operative word. Going forward, I don't expect many/any Henrys, Markuses, or Dawsons to buy into Wojo's vision — unless all they really care about is having a stage to showcase for the NBA

[panda]

Panda:

Yes, "did" is the operative word. Going forward, I don't expect many/any Henrys, Markuses, or Dawsons to buy into Wojo's vision — unless all they really care about is having a stage to showcase for the NBA

Yep - The program is getting to be a very hard sell at this point.

I could see Carton committing though as he has a previous relationship with the staff and he clearly wants to be the man. Otherwise, it'll be tough sledding.

[Elonsmusk]

Seems very charismatic. He's going to bail Wojo out on the recruiting trail and in huddles. Hopefully he gets the chance to show us what he can do in post game interviews. I'm 90% ready to fire Wojo to hire Killings. If he shows some personality in an interview after a game that seals the deal for me.

Proud of you. Though it took a full 6 years for you to admit the folly of your early predictions and promises of glory under Boy Wonder - it's never too late to swallow ones pride. Well done here Wades. I'm sure you will find it liberating not having to contort your posts and logic into suggesting our coach has us trending like Duke and Jay Wright at Villanova.

[We R Final Four]

Good interview with Killings taking about a lot of what we are discussing in this thread.

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/My-interview-with-Marquette-Associate-Head-Coach-Dwayne-Killings-145502975/?utm_source=247Sports%2520Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=200329_001736_MarquetteGoldenEagles&utm_content=Link

Killings:  ....."There are so many kids out there and so many kids calling – you have to think of who they are as people and how they would fit into the program."

Interesting that "so many kids are calling" MU inquiring about the situation they have to offer.
Seems that kids would be the ones receiving the calls, not making them.

[panda]

Killings:  ....."There are so many kids out there and so many kids calling – you have to think of who they are as people and how they would fit into the program."

Interesting that "so many kids are calling" MU inquiring about the situation they have to offer.
Seems that kids would be the ones receiving the calls, not making them.

DOS:  I don't want to date myself but when I attended Marquette in the late 70s, early 80s, and I worked with the basketball program and sports information, I remember Marquette beating Duke in Madison and Rick Majerus running to a pay phone at the Dane County Coliseum in order to talk with Doc Rivers at home in Chicago.  I heard him say, "Hey, Doc, did you see the game?  What a game, right?"  ....how technology has changed.  You now have your phones.  It's almost like a 24/7 effort between your phones, technology and the internet.

Killings actual answer - Is there a question here? Are you asking me to start interviewing you?

[Boone]

Lol! Also funny that MU's resident apologist and #1 schmuck didn't edit out Killings' response

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Proud of you. Though it took a full 6 years for you to admit the folly of your early predictions and promises of glory under Boy Wonder - it's never too late to swallow ones pride. Well done here Wades. I'm sure you will find it liberating not having to contort your posts and logic into suggesting our coach has us trending like Duke and Jay Wright at Villanova.

Not sure Wade's bar is very high by hiring on the premise of personality. 

[BallBoy]

Killings:  ....."There are so many kids out there and so many kids calling – you have to think of who they are as people and how they would fit into the program."

Interesting that "so many kids are calling" MU inquiring about the situation they have to offer.
Seems that kids would be the ones receiving the calls, not making them.

I pointed this out in an earlier post about how the portal works. I think a good number of players don't want to hear from 300 schools so they do the reaching out to the schools they are interested in.

Instead of saying MU has no interest they just say they have heard from MU

[bilsu]

There's a lot to sell at MU, it's not like there 15-15 every year, but more importantly Wojo has the backing of the administration with a ton of money to run the program, with that, he can recruit the whole country, not every program has the budget to do that, curious what is the recruiting budget of other Big East programs?

Including MUScoop, which works so hard to derail Wojo.

[MU82]

Obviously you don't understand that a "program changer" doesn't necessarily mean his Freshman year, but more future years and the impact it will have on recruiting. Without Carton and/or Griffin and/or Hunter, it's going to be struggle next year. 2 of those 3 would help immensely. I wouldn't expect you to "get" that though. You're used to distorting facts to fit a narrative.

Aside from your unnecessary insult in your last line (given that I wasn't disrespectful to you at all), thanks for explaining what you meant by "program changer" and by your desire to add highly skilled players for the upcoming season. I agree with them.

[Loose Cannon]

Is Joe Flacco a elite quarterback?

"We will Survive."

[MU82]

I hope Marquette can land a 5 as good as Shaquille O'Neal was coming out of high school, though I'd prefer to get a 5 as good as O'Neal was coming out of college.

Then, maybe as a backup, a Mourning-caliber 5.

Because tons of these guys are available every year, and we have a good recruiting budget, so I don't see why we can't get a few of them.

I mean, look at all the total stud 5's Buzz and Crean landed!