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Next up: A long offseason

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BCHoopster

Who is Torrence going to defend? He had trouble guarding anybody this year and Wojo had to take him out, secondly did you ever see him make a move to the hoop? Sure he will make a few threes when open but can he create his own shot, not sure yet

Badgerhater

None of the returnees were on an All Big East team or all freshman team.

My expectations will be low pending on who fills the open roster spots.   

When I return for next years tournament, I will expect to attend the Wednesday session.

Markusquette

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 13, 2020, 11:41:08 AM
Who is Torrence going to defend? He had trouble guarding anybody this year and Wojo had to take him out, secondly did you ever see him make a move to the hoop? Sure he will make a few threes when open but can he create his own shot, not sure yet

Pretty sure he made a move to the hoop and finished in the last game. Not that he's going to be some offensive threat, but with Markus' departure, there are a lot of uncertainties both bad and good. Guys have to step up and some will. Time will tell who makes the leap or what newcomers make a big difference immediately.

I don't think it's farfetched to see Garcia as the best player on the team quickly into the season. Or to see Oso + Lewis have important roles to start. This team needs another PG badly.

BrewCity83

Theo, Jamal, and Greg will all be in their 4th years in the program.  I expect them to all play like Seniors. 

I'm looking for more consistency from Brendan - he needs to play at a consistently high level, and next year he'll be a pretty experienced and mature Junior, so I don't think that's an unrealistic expectation. 

Symir will no longer be a Freshman, so there's that.  He could make a notable jump. 

Then there's Koby.  As a few have said above, he's going to be a key to the season.  We need him to get comfortable and play with confidence.  If he can do that, it'll help A LOT.

Who knows what the Freshmen will contribute?  Dawson should get lots of minutes, and we'll need him to score.  Beyond that, there's a good amount of talent and potential, but I don't really know how much to expect from them right away.

I'm probably overly optimistic, but I'm looking for a Top 50-type team that finishes smack-dab in the middle of the Big East.
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BCHoopster

X, Butler, Hall and Providence will be missing key players as well as MU. Right now MU has the best freshman class in the conference so middle of the Pack is possible.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Middle of the pack.  Need Mane and a grad transfer big. 

If we can't get Mane, need a grad transfer PG. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

BrewCity83

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 13, 2020, 12:11:56 PM
Middle of the pack.  Need Mane and a grad transfer big. 

If we can't get Mane, need a grad transfer PG.

Agreed.  My forecast was based on what we have on the roster now.  If we get some impactful additions, that will move us to higher ground.
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GoldenDieners32

IMO if we land Mane, i think we should be top 25 to start the season, at least close to the top 25 if not ranked

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 13, 2020, 10:40:16 AM
He played less than 200 minutes in Big East play. I could see him averaging 10 and 6 next year.

I love Symir. The only hope we have next year is if he makes a big step up to being a 30+ mpg player. Gotta ride or die with him.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 13, 2020, 12:14:47 PM
IMO if we land Mane, i think we should be top 25 to start the season, at least close to the top 25 if not ranked

What's the reason? We'd have two recruits that are in that "ready right away area" and have lost by far our two best players. Not screaming top 25 to me
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Johnny B

Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 13, 2020, 08:29:55 AM
We'll lose at DePaul to lock up the 10 seed in the Big East tournament.
At least its not last place

GoldenDieners32

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 13, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
What's the reason? We'd have two recruits that are in that "ready right away area" and have lost by far our two best players. Not screaming top 25 to me
Memphis this past season had one of the top ranked recruiting classes, no one that was a huge impact player on the team returning, so i think we could be ranked just based off how high our recruiting class could be if we get KM

BCHoopster

Quote from: Johnny B on March 13, 2020, 12:23:04 PM
At least its not last place

DePaul will be very good next year, all the players are back unless Reed goes pro

Galway Eagle

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 13, 2020, 12:23:31 PM
Memphis this past season had one of the top ranked recruiting classes, no one that was a huge impact player on the team returning, so i think we could be ranked just based off how high our recruiting class could be if we get KM

Yeah that's apples to oranges Memphis had two guys are were sure fire first rounders plus a guy ranked about where Dawson is. Dawson might get there and if we get Mane great but that's still not even close to the class Memphis pulled in.

https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Season/2019-Basketball/Commits/

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Season/2020-Basketball/Commits/
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MU Buff

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 13, 2020, 12:24:58 PM
DePaul will be very good next year, all the players are back unless Reed goes pro

Johnny B was making a joke because there will be 11 teams in the Big East next year. I don't think it was a comment on how good or bad DePaul will be.

nyg

This what I believe could happen, not will. 

The last two end of seasons have been brutal and Wojo probably has next year to produce something beneficial.  His staff knows the same and jobs would more than likely be in jeopardy if similar results occur.  That being said:

Wojo, having to shake things up in a dramatic fashion, may have a sit down with one or two players and say something to the effect, "Thanks, but its not working out and you may want to head in a new direction moving forward".  I would say one player leaves, as in past years. 

The team gets a big man grad transfer to either back up Theo or start.  A mandatory pickup for the team. Many will have the take that Garcia could employ the backup role, but he is a #3 or #4 and they must use those skills in that capacity. Theo is at times a foul machine and usually gets two by the five minute mark.

I am anticipating and optimistic Mane commits to MU.  The opening is there to immediately take Howard's role and all indications from recruiting sites are MU is still one of favorites. He is an instant starter. 

If Mane doesn't commit and if Dexter has not shown any ability to get minutes on the floor and none of us have no clue as to what his abilities are, then another grad transfer guard would be a possibility.  Who knows, maybe Dexter has been great in practice, etc. but again, unknown to all.

Guaranteed starters:  Garcia, Mane and probably Theo.  All other slots up for grabs.  It will depend upon if a player leaves, if grad transfers arrive and if Mane commits.  A lot of ifs, but that is the current reality as of today.  More should be known in a month. 


zcg2013

Fairly certain Reed will be going pro.

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 13, 2020, 12:24:58 PM
DePaul will be very good next year, all the players are back unless Reed goes pro

nyg

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 13, 2020, 12:24:58 PM
DePaul will be very good next year, all the players are back unless Reed goes pro

90% chance Reed goes.  Mock drafts have him going is round one in some and others have him in second.

Coleman-Lands and DJ Williams also seniors and are gone. 

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: nyg on March 13, 2020, 12:54:05 PM
90% chance Reed goes.  Mock drafts have him going is round one in some and others have him in second.

Coleman-Lands and DJ Williams also seniors and are gone.

I think JCL is applying for a 6th year. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

BrewCity83

Quote from: nyg on March 13, 2020, 12:44:29 PM
Guaranteed starters:  Garcia, Mane and probably Theo.  All other slots up for grabs.  It will depend upon if a player leaves, if grad transfers arrive and if Mane commits.  A lot of ifs, but that is the current reality as of today.  More should be known in a month.

I'd add Bailey to that list of starters.
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Markusquette

Unless Koby isn't part of the team I see him as a starter too

TedBaxter

Quote from: nyg on March 13, 2020, 12:44:29 PM
 

If Mane doesn't commit and if Dexter has not shown any ability to get minutes on the floor and none of us have no clue as to what his abilities are, then another grad transfer guard would be a possibility.  Who knows, maybe Dexter has been great in practice, etc. but again, unknown to all.

I saw a few game video's from his Blair Academy year and in preseason practice last fall and I think he can help some on and off the ball.  Handles the ball pretty well and was a decent three pointer shooter.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

As the roster stands now I see a starting lineup of:

Koby
Greg
Brendan
Dawson
Theo

With Cain, Symir, and the two frosh getting a lot of minutes. Dexter is a question mark, if he is ready to play then one of the two non-Garcia frosh get redshirtted.

Still lots of questions with this roster. Do we land Mane? Do we go after another Jayce Johnson type to back up Theo? Can Koby get his head on straight? Will Brendan become consistent? Can Theo and Greg get/stay healthy? How big of a freshman to sophomore jump will Symir have? What does Dexter bring to the table? Could Cain have a JJJ like senior year? Are the frosh ready? How much if any Ewing theory will play into this team?

I think next season has the widest range of possibilities of any Wojo team to date. I can see the pieces coming together for a high seed in the NCAAs and I can see an absolute trainwreck that finishes below .500.  This is the first season where Wojo's seat has any legitimate warmth. He'll need to show a lot more than he did to end this last season.
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curbina

The 2020-2021 season will be like the previous 6 seasons. Same old just one more year! I am not buying into this narrative.
"You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks."
- Winston S. Churchill

wadesworld

Quote from: curbina on March 13, 2020, 02:49:27 PM
The 2020-2021 season will be like the previous 6 seasons. Same old just one more year! I am not buying into this narrative.

Thanks Lovell!

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