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GoldenDieners32

What is everyone expecting from the howard-less Warriors? Will we stay afloat?

I will start this off with a bold prediction: Jamal Cain will turn himself into a prospect, career year next season

Skatastrophy

I'm assuming that we will have continued quarantines, and the 2020-2021 season will be played by the Marquette E-Sports team.

Sadly they'll have to play in EA Sport's NCAA Basketball 2010 game, since EA hasn't released a new college bball game due to a decade of legal disputes.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 12, 2020, 08:37:57 PM
What is everyone expecting from the howard-less Warriors? Will we stay afloat?

I will start this off with a bold prediction: Jamal Cain will turn himself into a prospect, career year next season

How do we know Markus won't be playing for Santa Cruz?
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

jesmu84

Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 12, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
I'm assuming that we will have continued quarantines, and the 2020-2021 season will be played by the Marquette E-Sports team.

Sadly they'll have to play in EA Sport's NCAA Basketball 2010 game, since EA hasn't released a new college bball game due to a decade of legal disputes.

College hoops 2k8 is far superior

PointWarrior

 
Will MU's e-sports fold down the stretch like wojo's teams?

Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 12, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
I'm assuming that we will have continued quarantines, and the 2020-2021 season will be played by the Marquette E-Sports team.

Sadly they'll have to play in EA Sport's NCAA Basketball 2010 game, since EA hasn't released a new college bball game due to a decade of legal disputes.

franklinjerry

What excites you about the six returnees? Add to that 4 freshman (one a RS) and I think it's a long season without 2 more high level additions.

What in the world have you seen from Cain in 3 seasons that leads to a break-out senior year? He continues to project as a 8-10 minute role player, just my opinion.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 12, 2020, 09:01:28 PM

Will MU's e-sports fold down the stretch like wojo's teams?

lmao

MUfan12

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 12, 2020, 09:01:28 PM

Will MU's e-sports fold down the stretch like wojo's teams?

Nah they'll just hit reset

MU24

Itll be another year of ups and downs. I think at the end of Jan/Feb the team will be pretty solid actually.

zcg2013

I'm quite curious as to the production of all 4 freshmen. I thought Dawson would be immediately seeing minutes, Justin would be somewhat like freshmen Jamal, and Oso would be more of a project/redshirt candidate (no idea what Dex will do). But now I think all 3 bigs will see lots of time.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU24 on March 12, 2020, 10:57:20 PM
Itll be another year of ups and downs. I think at the end of Jan/Feb the team will be pretty solid actually.
What does "pretty sold" mean? I know Wojo has a great track record of getting his teams to play better as the seasons go along 😔 I think .500 record and 8th. place in the Big East would be very solid next year.

dgies9156

Nobody knows yet. We can't. What we get next year depends on the following factors:

1) Who Comes -- We have a good recruiting class, no doubt. But until we fill out the last few slots in this class, who the heck knows what we're getting. Does Karim Mane come? Who else is being recruited by Wojo and Stan? That's going to become clearer in the weeks ahead. Besides Mane, we sure could use a center and maybe another guard.

2) Who Goes -- Given the last few years, we should expect some roster shrinkage. Best guess is Theo, Symir, Jamal and Koby are all locks. Not sure about Brendan and Dexter. Gotta believe both will be back but you never know until you know. Big question is whether we get a Koby who lights the world up or do we get a Koby who starts poorly and his self-confidence is shattered?

3) What Offense? -- Big issue is our offense next year. If Coach Wojo goes out and recruits a CarRowMar kind of guard, nothing will change and we'll be a .500 team. We'll be a less than .500 team if we go back to the "Let Henry Do It" offense of Coach Wojo's second year. The team has to gel and the offense has to be an inside-out, outside-in style of play. Hero ball won't work next year and I suspect Coach Wojo knows it.

Let's ask this question again in June and see what happens.

lessthannick11

Can't see Dexter leaving and sitting out 2 straight years. Brendan leaving would make him sit a year and be 24 or 25 when he's done so that seems unlikely too.


Koby as a grad transfer (if eligible) would be the only one I could see

Boozemon Barro

We'll lose at DePaul to lock up the 10 seed in the Big East tournament.

BCHoopster

Everybody coming back are basically role players, can somebody step up and be the man, not sure. They for sure need a top end grad transfer that can score otherwise it might be a long year, maybe even last in Big East. Have to rely on freshman to step up, lots of question marks. Is it possible, yes

lawdog77

Starting lineup:
Sy
Greg
Brendan
Dawson
Theo

Cain splitting minutes with Bailey. Lewis backing up Dawson. Osa getting minutes when we go more athletic.

We still need a guard.

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 13, 2020, 08:39:10 AM
Starting lineup:
Sy
Greg
Brendan
Dawson
Theo

Cain splitting minutes with Bailey. Lewis backing up Dawson. Osa getting minutes when we go more athletic.

We still need a guard.


Galway Eagle

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 13, 2020, 08:30:58 AM
Everybody coming back are basically role players, can somebody step up and be the man, not sure. They for sure need a top end grad transfer that can score otherwise it might be a long year, maybe even last in Big East. Have to rely on freshman to step up, lots of question marks. Is it possible, yes

Agreed but same could be said about the 2017 season, we didn't return a go to guy and got really balanced scoring from everyone including two freshmen. That is my hope for next year.
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BCHoopster

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 13, 2020, 08:39:10 AM
Starting lineup:
Sy
Greg
Brendan
Dawson
Theo

Cain splitting minutes with Bailey. Lewis backing up Dawson. Osa getting minutes when we go more athletic.

We still need a guard.

That starting 5 will beat nobody.  Guards will not be able to defend anybody, both to slow.  Bailey brings nothing to the table offensively as well as Theo.  How you going to score?  I can see Dawson or another frosh starting right away.  Will need scoring from the center position, Theo is not the answer.  I can see Lewis starting
right away, and depending on the match ups Garcia and Lewis will defend the player they match up best in the post.  Another guard has to show up, a couple scoring
guards from the Ivy League are leaving, can they move up to the next level?

damuts222

With the tourney cancelled, it will be interesting to see how it impacts the calendar for transfers, etc.
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lawdog77

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 13, 2020, 08:57:10 AM
That starting 5 will beat nobody.  Guards will not be able to defend anybody, both to slow.  Bailey brings nothing to the table offensively as well as Theo. How you going to score?  I can see Dawson or another frosh starting right away.  Will need scoring from the center position, Theo is not the answer.  I can see Lewis starting
right away, and depending on the match ups Garcia and Lewis will defend the player they match up best in the post.  Another guard has to show up, a couple scoring
guards from the Ivy League are leaving, can they move up to the next level?
I really think Sy is going to make the big leap. In limited minutes, he shot 40% from 3 in Big East play. If he does that next year in extended minutes, it will open up his driving/dishing. If neither Bailey or Cain step up, the position is open for Lewis. 

GoldenDieners32

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 13, 2020, 10:09:59 AM
I really think Sy is going to make the big leap. In limited minutes, he shot 40% from 3 in Big East play. If he does that next year in extended minutes, it will open up his driving/dishing. If neither Bailey or Cain step up, the position is open for Lewis.
He only shot 10 3s during BE play

lawdog77

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 13, 2020, 10:21:51 AM
He only shot 10 3s during BE play
He played less than 200 minutes in Big East play. I could see him averaging 10 and 6 next year.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: dgies9156 on March 13, 2020, 07:51:18 AM
Nobody knows yet. We can't. What we get next year depends on the following factors:

1) Who Comes -- We have a good recruiting class, no doubt. But until we fill out the last few slots in this class, who the heck knows what we're getting. Does Karim Mane come? Who else is being recruited by Wojo and Stan? That's going to become clearer in the weeks ahead. Besides Mane, we sure could use a center and maybe another guard.

2) Who Goes -- Given the last few years, we should expect some roster shrinkage. Best guess is Theo, Symir, Jamal and Koby are all locks. Not sure about Brendan and Dexter. Gotta believe both will be back but you never know until you know. Big question is whether we get a Koby who lights the world up or do we get a Koby who starts poorly and his self-confidence is shattered?

3) What Offense? -- Big issue is our offense next year. If Coach Wojo goes out and recruits a CarRowMar kind of guard, nothing will change and we'll be a .500 team. We'll be a less than .500 team if we go back to the "Let Henry Do It" offense of Coach Wojo's second year. The team has to gel and the offense has to be an inside-out, outside-in style of play. Hero ball won't work next year and I suspect Coach Wojo knows it.

Let's ask this question again in June and see what happen.

Knowing it is one thing. Trying it anyway is another. If nothing else, Wojo has proven to be very predictable, the main reason he has been so thoroughly out coached many times.

Agree it is too early to predict right now. Although I know Wojo's chances of being fired are about zero, there is still a slight chance he will find another gig. If so, which recruits would go with him or elsewhere?

So....revisiting in June sounds like a solid plan to me.

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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MUeng

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 13, 2020, 08:39:10 AM
Starting lineup:
Sy
Greg
Brendan
Dawson
Theo

Cain splitting minutes with Bailey. Lewis backing up Dawson. Osa getting minutes when we go more athletic.

We still need a guard.
I'm intrigued by that lineup.  There were times recently when Greg, Cain, and Theo had great passing and easy buckets.  Lights out shooting won't be there obviously but with Sy, it seems we got a pass-first point.  I worry about the center position big time as Jayce was a rebounding machine towards the end.

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