Extra Year for Seniors?

[GB Warrior]

If we give Howard another year, can we take one away from Koby?

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Kind of speaks volumes about his coaching at MU, doesn't it

No what is says is there a are tons of pro leagues out there and means if u are good enuff to play D1 u are good enuff to play pro ball some where over seas.  Trend Blackledge and Burke for examples have had long overseas careers.

[The Sultan]

The upcoming junior will still have a chance, at least in regards to wrestling.  The best wrestler will see the mat, regardless of the class he is in.  It would be no different if an incoming freshman outwrestled that junior and took "his spot".  Give seniors another year and if they aren't the best at their weight class, they won't wrestle.  It's that simple.

But they don't deserve another year IMO.

[HutchwasClutch]

No what is says is there a are tons of pro leagues out there and means if u are good enuff to play D1 u are good enuff to play pro ball some where over seas.  Trend Blackledge and Burke for examples have had long overseas careers.

Lost and ignored in this response was he went to top professional league in Spain immediately out of MU, which my comment centered on.

No question if you're playing D1, especially at MU's level, there's a pro league somewhere on the planet that will take you.  But the former players examples you cite were not ever going to play in a top Euro league, especially straight out of MU.   Apples and oranges.

[HutchwasClutch]

That guys who are role players can go play in top leagues overseas right away?  Yeah, I'd say that's a good thing.  Not quite Cal who gets 6th men taken in the lottery, but you could do worse.

Luke's production and I'm sure usage decreased from his junior to senior seasons. His senior year pretty much mirrored his sophomore year stat wise. Yet, top league in Spain wanted him straight out of MU. So yeah, coaching development failure!  His stats might have indicated role player, talent level didn't however.  Wojo used him poorly his senior season and wasted a high level big, ask Liga ACB.

[HutchwasClutch]

For that matter, ask top German league he plays in currently.  Top pro leagues of Germany and Spain since MU.  Hardly obscure countries. Yay Wojo. Go ahead and underachieve with the next group of freshmen now. 

[wadesworld]

Luke's production and I'm sure usage decreased from his junior to senior seasons. His senior year pretty much mirrored his sophomore year stat wise. Yet, top league in Spain wanted him straight out of MU. So yeah, coaching development failure!  His stats might have indicated role player, talent level didn't however.  Wojo used him poorly his senior season and wasted a high level big, ask Liga ACB.

I have no idea what you are trying to prove here. "Wojo held Luke back so much that immediately out of college he was signing to play in one of the top professional leagues in Europe!"

Huh? If Wojo was holding him back wouldn't the proof be him signing in some small obscure professional league in the middle of nowhere (or the G League) and then 2 years later he develops into a higher league (or NBA) player?

Doesn't seem like much thought was put into this one by you...

[Badgerhater]

The upcoming junior will still have a chance, at least in regards to wrestling.  The best wrestler will see the mat, regardless of the class he is in.  It would be no different if an incoming freshman outwrestled that junior and took "his spot".  Give seniors another year and if they aren't the best at their weight class, they won't wrestle.  It's that simple.

Four people here care about wrestling.  Body development and competition experience are huge factors within the range of the average collegiate athlete.

[warriorchick]

I have a friend that cam up with a brilliant idea.

Once everything calms down, hold a senior-only tournament where each conference fields a team. There are 32 conferences so the brackets are easy.

The Big East could put together a pretty good lineup.

And you could pay them if you wanted.

[Eldon]

I have a friend that cam up with a brilliant idea.

Once everything calms down, hold a senior-only tournament where each conference fields a team. There are 32 conferences so the brackets are easy.

The Big East could put together a pretty good lineup.

And you could pay them if you wanted.

I love it!

[#UnleashSean]

Body development and competition experience are huge factors within the range of the average collegiate athlete.

This argument makes sense from a 12 to 13 year old. It continues to make sense but to a lesser extent each year up till about 20. Then its dimishing returns

[wiscwarrior]

Luke's production and I'm sure usage decreased from his junior to senior seasons. His senior year pretty much mirrored his sophomore year stat wise. Yet, top league in Spain wanted him straight out of MU. So yeah, coaching development failure!  His stats might have indicated role player, talent level didn't however.  Wojo used him poorly his senior season and wasted a high level big, ask Liga ACB.

To be fair, didn't Luke have problems with his shoulder each of the off-seasons he was at MU. Might that have hampered his ability to develop?