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You get 3 changes
« on: March 05, 2020, 10:59:33 AM »
Just curious to hear everyones thoughts. If you were in charge and had 3 things you could change, what would you do to get us out of this slump (aside from firing wojo because he's not leaving this year).


1. Play symir as PG. We need a better ball handler, what's the worse that could happen at this point.

2. Push tempo more, feel like a lot of times we've had numbers but slow the tempo to set up an offense. 

3. try to go small, play no 5s so we can open up the lane and actually get some penetration. 

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Re: You get 3 changes
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2020, 11:02:01 AM »
4. Fire Bill Scholl

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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2020, 11:02:36 AM »
Just curious to hear everyones thoughts. If you were in charge and had 3 things you could change, what would you do to get us out of this slump (aside from firing wojo because he's not leaving this year).


1. Play symir as PG. We need a better ball handler, what's the worse that could happen at this point.
Less scoring from the position and much lower on-ball defense than alternatives

2. Push tempo more, feel like a lot of times we've had numbers but slow the tempo to set up an offense.
Given our TO rate and defensive implosion of late we should actually slow down the pace. Our transition D is garbage and we commit hella TOs when we push pace

3. try to go small, play no 5s so we can open up the lane and actually get some penetration.
We should definitely take our two best rebounders off the court all the time
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2020, 11:04:12 AM »
4. Fire Bill Scholl

For what? He didn't hire Wojo, Bill Cords did. Bill Scholl also hired the now BECOY Meghan Duffy as the women's HC for this season. He doesn't seem to be the issue.
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Re: You get 3 changes
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2020, 11:08:35 AM »
Have a plan for when the nation’s leading scorer gets double teamed. Crazy concept but it tends to happen
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2020, 11:11:18 AM »
Have a plan for when the nation’s leading scorer gets double teamed. Crazy concept but it tends to happen

100% agree

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2020, 11:11:42 AM »
For what? He didn't hire Wojo, Bill Cords did. Bill Scholl also hired the now BECOY Meghan Duffy as the women's HC for this season. He doesn't seem to be the issue.

I am just saying someone has to be accountable. If not Scholl, then Lovell. If not Lovell, then the BOT. Who is the BOT accountable to?

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 11:13:20 AM »
This is a tough one as there aren't many major changes that can be made at this point.

1) Reign Markus in. Try to get through to him that even though his teammates are in a shooting slump, he has them. An open look for one of them is a viable option rather than dribbling into constant double teams.

2) Run more offense through Anim as opposed to McEwen.

3) Give Cain more opportunities to create and score. Even if it's a few more pull-up jumpers inside the arc.

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2020, 11:20:04 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2020, 11:38:19 AM »
For what? He didn't hire Wojo, Bill Cords did. Bill Scholl also hired the now BECOY Meghan Duffy as the women's HC for this season. He doesn't seem to be the issue.

This.  I am actually intrigued with what he would do with the hire.

Interestingly enough Cords (O'neill+, Deane (-), Crean (+), Nojo (-) | Sosojo (=) | Projo (+))

So he probably has a 50% hit rate, which isnt terrible in the grand scheme of college bball.

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 11:41:27 AM »
I am just saying someone has to be accountable. If not Scholl, then Lovell. If not Lovell, then the BOT. Who is the BOT accountable to?

Accountable for what? Lovell nor the current BOT nor the current AD hired Wojo. If you want to write a sternly worded letter to Doc Rivers for advocating for Wojo, feel free.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 11:42:48 AM »
Accountable for what? Lovell nor the current BOT nor the current AD hired Wojo. If you want to write a sternly worded letter to Doc Rivers for advocating for Wojo, feel free.

So Wojo gets to stay at Marquette forever because nobody is responsible for him? Yikes.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2020, 11:43:47 AM »
This is a tough one as there aren't many major changes that can be made at this point.

1) Reign Markus in. Try to get through to him that even though his teammates are in a shooting slump, he has them. An open look for one of them is a viable option rather than dribbling into constant double teams. It seems like this is only a problem late in games, after repeated open misses have led Markus and Wojo to the realization that only Markus can be trusted to shoot the ball.

2) Run more offense through Anim as opposed to McEwen.

3) Give Cain more opportunities to create and score. Even if it's a few more pull-up jumpers inside the arc.

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2020, 11:51:04 AM »
Cut back on the amount of high ball screens set for Markus by the bigs. It almost never results in a switch, and only brings size at him that he struggles to pass over.

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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2020, 11:56:48 AM »
Pick and roll with Bailey instead of a center.


IF markus is going to drive, pull up at 6. to 10 feet, like he did to get a foul on weems. he is not getting the call when he creates contact at the. rim. Most. times he shouldnt, it seens the centers are going straight up.

SJU will be pressing, make them pay. Transition 3 for Markus all day.

As an aside, (you can ignore this Jaybee) MH is shooting 45% from the field during this slide. He shot 35% last year. If anything, he should shoot more in the first half, less at the end.



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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2020, 11:58:46 AM »
1) Take Koby out of the lineup. Not just the starting lineup, but he should only get in when needed. He's been awful on offense & even if he's a better defender than some alternatives (Sy, Greg) our defense is trash right now.

2) Start Cain & Elliott over McEwen & Sacar. Let Sacar be the energy guy off the bench, but he's not deserving max minutes.

3) Slow the effing tempo. We don't turn teams over, and when we play fast, we turn it over. There are 9 teams in the kenpom top-50 that have a top-100 tempo, including us. We are 7th among those teams in offensive TO% & dead last in defensive TO%. Why would a team with a loose handle and inability to generate transition opportunities push the pace? It makes no sense. Minimize possessions, shorten the game, maximize the value of our greatest asset, the three point shot.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2020, 11:59:05 AM »
Just curious to hear everyones thoughts. If you were in charge and had 3 things you could change, what would you do to get us out of this slump (aside from firing wojo because he's not leaving this year).


1. Play symir as PG. We need a better ball handler, what's the worse that could happen at this point.

2. Push tempo more, feel like a lot of times we've had numbers but slow the tempo to set up an offense. 

3. try to go small, play no 5s so we can open up the lane and actually get some penetration.

Willing to try 2 and 3. Can't do #1. He gets scored on repeatedly every time he is in the game.

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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2020, 12:08:48 PM »
1) Take Koby out of the lineup. Not just the starting lineup, but he should only get in when needed. He's been awful on offense & even if he's a better defender than some alternatives (Sy, Greg) our defense is trash right now.

2) Start Cain & Elliott over McEwen & Sacar. Let Sacar be the energy guy off the bench, but he's not deserving max minutes.

3) Slow the effing tempo. We don't turn teams over, and when we play fast, we turn it over. There are 9 teams in the kenpom top-50 that have a top-100 tempo, including us. We are 7th among those teams in offensive TO% & dead last in defensive TO%. Why would a team with a loose handle and inability to generate transition opportunities push the pace? It makes no sense. Minimize possessions, shorten the game, maximize the value of our greatest asset, the three point shot.

Does anyone think Koby might grad transfer, or just leave after the season like Ed did?  Based on his body language and overall struggles, he doesn’t seem to have enjoyed his time much here.  I also don’t think he likes playing with Markus, so maybe things will get better next year.

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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2020, 12:17:38 PM »
This is a tough one as there aren't many major changes that can be made at this point.

1) Reign Markus in. Try to get through to him that even though his teammates are in a shooting slump, he has them. An open look for one of them is a viable option rather than dribbling into constant double teams.

2) Run more offense through Anim as opposed to McEwen.

3) Give Cain more opportunities to create and score. Even if it's a few more pull-up jumpers inside the arc.


Regarding option #1
I keep seeing this n im sorry but its so far from the answer.  Take the ball from the only guy on theteam that can hit a shot n give more shots to tge wide open brick layers.  Yes markus makes mistakes but his offensive efficiency dwarfs the others. 
But as an answer id go more greg n less mcewen n therefore more sacar on the ball.
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2020, 12:18:47 PM »
Have a plan for when the nation’s leading scorer gets double teamed. Crazy concept but it tends to happen

You mean the open guys that can't hit jump shots? 

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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2020, 12:20:42 PM »
Does anyone think Koby might grad transfer, or just leave after the season like Ed did?  Based on his body language and overall struggles, he doesn’t seem to have enjoyed his time much here.  I also don’t think he likes playing with Markus, so maybe things will get better next year.

I would be in favor of mcewen leaving, ive see nothing in his game that would inducate his sucking is caused by players around him.  Big strong athletic kid, horribly poorly skilled and a bball iq of a 3rd grader
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2020, 12:29:11 PM »
I would be in favor of mcewen leaving, ive see nothing in his game that would inducate his sucking is caused by players around him.  Big strong athletic kid, horribly poorly skilled and a bball iq of a 3rd grader

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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2020, 12:33:19 PM »

Regarding option #1
I keep seeing this n im sorry but its so far from the answer.  Take the ball from the only guy on theteam that can hit a shot n give more shots to tge wide open brick layers.  Yes markus makes mistakes but his offensive efficiency dwarfs the others. 
But as an answer id go more greg n less mcewen n therefore more sacar on the ball.

I'm not saying you take a ton of his looks away, but he absolutely has to realize that he is going to be swarmed at the end of games. I'm simply sick of seeing Markus losing the ball in pivotal moments because he held on for too long. When he has 2 or 3 defenders around him he's not tall enough to execute great passes. Get it to someone else more quickly and if they can get it back to Markus for a decent look, that's fine. Don't try to tell me the nobody but Markus can touch the ball approach to end every single possession in close games is the answer.

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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2020, 12:35:28 PM »
As an aside, (you can ignore this Jaybee) MH is shooting 45% from the field during this slide. He shot 35% last year. If anything, he should shoot more in the first half, less at the end.

I cannot ignore it, but will help.

Last year - last 7 games... M2N: 97.5 ORtg, 41% usage, 43.2% eFG%
This year.. last 6 games.. 113.5 Ortg, 38% usage, 55.7% eFG%

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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2020, 12:36:14 PM »
I cannot ignore it, but will help.

Last year - last 7 games... M2N: 97.5 ORtg, 41% usage, 43.2% eFG%
This year.. last 6 games.. 113.5 Ortg, 38% usage, 55.7% eFG%

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