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#UnleashSean

Quote from: Daniel on February 23, 2020, 10:31:02 AM
There is no excuse for booing your team or coach in public.  Period.

lol?

Silent Verbal

Quote from: Daniel on February 23, 2020, 10:31:02 AM
There is no excuse for booing your team or coach in public.  Period.

There's no excuse for booing amateur athletes, ever, unless it's in fun when you're booing the visitors, or getting on a guy like Brad Davison who plays dirty.  But a coach who's making a cool $2 million a year?  Fair game if he's not producing.

Goose

I do not believe I have ever booed a player or a coach, at least as an adult. Have booed refs over the years.

muguru

Quote from: Silent Verbal on February 23, 2020, 10:36:30 AM
There's no excuse for booing amateur athletes, ever, unless it's in fun when you're booing the visitors, or getting on a guy like Brad Davison who plays dirty.  But a coach who's making a cool $2 million a year?  Fair game if he's not producing.

I agree with this 100%. You want the booing to stop?? Perform better. It's really that simple. There's no magic formula. It's as easy as winning more games.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Cheeks

Quote from: Silent Verbal on February 23, 2020, 10:01:01 AM
Your unicorn will stop getting booed when he actually has success.  We've dropped three games in a row, will likely be unranked when the new rankings come out, and have never won a Big East title or NCAA Tournament game during his time here.  We're currently 7-7 in conference, strictly middle of the pack.  And we're nearing the end of year six.

The unicorns don't exist which has been my point for a long time.  Despite so many of you thinking one is coming to Milwaukee and staying.  LOL.  I expect to win 2 or 3 of the last four. 

Senior night is about the players, but I have no doubt some of our illustrious arseholes will do their best to show just how smart and big time arseholes they are....don't disappoint us.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

BM1090

It's just unproductive. I understand frustration, but it doesn't achieve anything. He's not getting fired unless the performance gets worse, and it definitely doesn't foster a great environment for our players.

StillWarriors

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 22, 2020, 09:37:31 PM
So right.

How as a coach do you watch Cain pass up an open corner 3, take a few dribbles, pass up an open 12 footer, then throw the ball away leading to a dunk, and you leave him in the game?!?!?!   Disgraceful.

That was a maddening stretch for a guy who had been playing with confidence. Interesting to note, however, how many on here have blamed Cain's woes last year on being quickly pulled all the time. Whatever fits the narrative one is pushing.

Elonsmusk

Quote from: StillWarriors on February 23, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
That was a maddening stretch for a guy who had been playing with confidence. Interesting to note, however, how many on here have blamed Cain's woes last year on being quickly pulled all the time. Whatever fits the narrative one is pushing.

The track record of player "development" under Wojo speaks for itself.

All players make mistakes. Mistakes multiply when historically making one leads to a quick hook.

Lastly, the coaching "results" speak for themselves as well. 7-7 in Big East. Year 6.

The real Wojo tenure narrative. #mediocre

Cheeks

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 22, 2020, 09:37:31 PM
So right.

How as a coach do you watch Cain pass up an open corner 3, take a few dribbles, pass up an open 12 footer, then throw the ball away leading to a dunk, and you leave him in the game?!?!?!   Disgraceful.

And yet other clowns here saying to let Cain play more and let him get some run despite turnovers, etc.


This board is like watching 20 bipolar people talking to each other.  You all talk out of both sides of your mouths.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 23, 2020, 11:31:54 AM
The track record of player "development" under Wojo speaks for itself.

All players make mistakes. Mistakes multiply when historically making one leads to a quick hook.

Lastly, the coaching "results" speak for themselves as well. 7-7 in Big East. Year 6.

The real Wojo tenure narrative. #mediocre

Lol, better than Buzz's record in year 6 in a worse conference...oh, that's right...he wasn't trying.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Cheeks on February 23, 2020, 11:42:50 AM
Lol, better than Buzz's record in year 6 in a worse conference...oh, that's right...he wasn't trying.

Why is one of your defining arguments Buzz's one bad year (where his best player jumoed ship to pros) where his pg and sf straight didn't work out. Buzz was 5/6 wojo is like 1.5/6

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Cheeks on February 23, 2020, 11:41:17 AM
And yet other clowns here saying to let Cain play more and let him get some run despite turnovers, etc.


This board is like watching 20 bipolar people talking to each other.  You all talk out of both sides of your mouths.

Well, it's nothing I've said about him.

He's nearly completed 3 years of college ball, so cutting him slack to play through his ridiculous mistakes is over.  His decisions are that of first semester freshman.  You just cringe anytime he's doing anything but catching and shooting immediately.  Any time he has to start thinking of his next move, look out.

Daniel

Quote from: Silent Verbal on February 23, 2020, 10:36:30 AM
There's no excuse for booing amateur athletes, ever, unless it's in fun when you're booing the visitors, or getting on a guy like Brad Davison who plays dirty.  But a coach who's making a cool $2 million a year?  Fair game if he's not producing.

Booing a coach in public, especially at a game, is hurting the team as well.   At the moment, that is who their leader is.  And to boo the a coach, you boo the team because you hurt them.

jesmu84

Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 23, 2020, 11:31:54 AM
The track record of player "development" under Wojo speaks for itself.

All players make mistakes. Mistakes multiply when historically making one leads to a quick hook.

Lastly, the coaching "results" speak for themselves as well. 7-7 in Big East. Year 6.

The real Wojo tenure narrative. #mediocre

Source?

cheebs09

Quote from: Cheeks on February 23, 2020, 11:42:50 AM
Lol, better than Buzz's record in year 6 in a worse conference...oh, that's right...he wasn't trying.

Buzz was 9-9 that year. We haven't exceeded it yet.

jesmu84

Quote from: Daniel on February 23, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
Booing a coach in public, especially at a game, is hurting the team as well.   At the moment, that is who their leader is.  And to boo the a coach, you boo the team because you hurt them.

This.

Plus the public perception of the fanbase on future recruits or coaching prospects

NickelDimer

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on February 23, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
Why is one of your defining arguments Buzz's one bad year (where his best player jumoed ship to pros) where his pg and sf straight didn't work out. Buzz was 5/6 wojo is like 1.5/6
How you say, double standard?
No Finish Line

mu-rara

I've supported Wojo for 5 years. 

Time to get it together.  His 2 best players (Ellenson and Howard) have been questioanable.  Every coach in the Big East knows how to play against Marcus now.   The offense is the opposite of K.  There is no offense.  Howard  refuses to play team ball.  Wojo hasn't shown the ability to adjust.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 23, 2020, 11:31:54 AM
The track record of player "development" under Wojo speaks for itself.

All players make mistakes. Mistakes multiply when historically making one leads to a quick hook.

Lastly, the coaching "results" speak for themselves as well. 7-7 in Big East. Year 6.

The real Wojo tenure narrative. #mediocre

As painful as the losing has been the last three games, stating Wojos conference record before the conference season is over is not really productive.  He could end up 11-7. It could be 7-11.  We will have all the information at the end of the year.  I don't like how we have played, especially the last two games, as much as anyone but this season could still end up way above average.  Let's let it play out.

Cheeks

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on February 23, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
Why is one of your defining arguments Buzz's one bad year (where his best player jumoed ship to pros) where his pg and sf straight didn't work out. Buzz was 5/6 wojo is like 1.5/6

Because you guys keep saying year 6.  Compare year 6 to year 6, same Big East to the same Big East.

That's why
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 23, 2020, 12:16:24 PM
Buzz was 9-9 that year. We haven't exceeded it yet.

It was also the 5th ranked conference that year...this year ranked 2nd.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

CountryRoads

Quote from: Cheeks on February 23, 2020, 02:14:23 PM
Because you guys keep saying year 6.  Compare year 6 to year 6, same Big East to the same Big East.

That's why

Probably not uncommon to have a rebuild year after making the S16 3 straight years. Seems we've been in rebuild mode every year under Wojo.

Cheeks

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 23, 2020, 02:29:29 PM
Probably not uncommon to have a rebuild year after making the S16 3 straight years. Seems we've been in rebuild mode every year under Wojo.

Yeah, making NCAA tournaments are rebuild....Good Lord.


In Buzz's year 6 we were picked to win the Big East and finished 6th.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: Cheeks on February 23, 2020, 02:32:06 PM
Yeah, making NCAA tournaments are rebuild....Good Lord.


In Buzz's year 6 we were picked to win the Big East and finished 6th.
Your commitment to trying to make people think they are crazy for being unhappy or dissatisfied with Wojo's tenure is poisonous.  You, and others that talk/post like you, are the worst fans we have.

There is nothing wrong with believing that Marquette can, and should, do better.  We've seen it before.

Please continue to boo the guy making $2M per year to be OK(?) at his job.

tower912

I would support the next coach.   Until either the program regressed or the players started misbehaving in the classroom or off the court.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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