NCAA investigations cont.

[jesmu84]

and then when they get hammered you'll complain that others aren't sanctioned.

Nah. I'll love it.

Just read another article with some interesting info -

1. This was the NCAA punishment. The other programs involved in the federal scandal chose to go to the independent tribunal.
2. OK St committed 1 Level 1 violation. Kansas (as an example) committed 5.

[Uncle Rico]

Nah. I'll love it.

Just read another article with some interesting info -

1. This was the NCAA punishment. The other programs involved in the federal scandal chose to go to the independent tribunal.
2. OK St committed 1 Level 1 violation. Kansas (as an example) committed 5.

It also pushes the major conferences a step closer to leaving the NCAA

[WhiteTrash]

It also pushes the major conferences a step closer to leaving the NCAA

The major conferences, including the Big East, have a big voice in setting these rules and punishments. I'd like to hear from university presidents not outrageous fans about the NCAA. I bet you'll hear a much different view.

Any school can leave the NCAA any time they want to.

[Uncle Rico]

The major conferences, including the Big East, have a big voice in setting these rules and punishments. I'd like to hear from university presidents not outrageous fans about the NCAA. I bet you'll hear a much different view.

Any school can leave the NCAA any time they want to.

I think you'd be surprised at what you'd hear. 

[muguru]

The major conferences, including the Big East, have a big voice in setting these rules and punishments. I'd like to hear from university presidents not outrageous fans about the NCAA. I bet you'll hear a much different view.

Any school can leave the NCAA any time they want to.

This is exactly it. If i remember right, the whole reason the new punishment review board aka IARP was formed to begin with was suggestions from Condeeleza Rice's committee, but mostly because I remember Coaches(specifically Mike Brey if I remember right), saying the membership was losing faith and that cheaters needed to be held accountable. The schools/membership ASKED for this.

[WhiteTrash]

I think you'd be surprised at what you'd hear.

Well there is a snarky, non-informative post.

I think you'd be surprised what you'd hear.

Ha! We're even!

(Intellectual discourse at the highest level)

[Uncle Rico]

Well there is a snarky, non-informative post.

I think you'd be surprised what you'd hear.

Ha! We're even!

(Intellectual discourse at the highest level)

There's more money to be made leaving the NCAA, especially after NIL becomes reality.

[muguru]

There's more money to be made leaving the NCAA, especially after NIL becomes reality.

For football maybe since the NCAA doesn't own/have rights to the FBS playoffs. Basketball not so much since they do own the NCAA tournament and have the rights to it.

[Uncle Rico]

For football maybe since the NCAA doesn't own/have rights to the FBS playoffs. Basketball not so much since they do own the NCAA tournament and have the rights to it.

TV would pay top dollar for a new format

[WhiteTrash]

There's more money to be made leaving the NCAA, especially after NIL becomes reality.

Well the NCAA doesn't get much football money.  So no real reason to pull out for football.  The P6 could put on a decent basketball tournament but not as good as the NCAA.

Maybe the P6 eliminate nonrevenue sports?

[Uncle Rico]

Well the NCAA doesn't get much football money.  So no real reason to pull out for football.  The P6 could put on a decent basketball tournament but not as good as the NCAA.

Maybe the P6 eliminate nonrevenue sports?

It's a pretty fluid landscape but I don't think there is a lot of love for the NCAA at member schools for a variety of reasons.  It does take all the flak for bad publicity and that is something.

[WhiteTrash]

It's a pretty fluid landscape but I don't think there is a lot of love for the NCAA at member schools for a variety of reasons.  It does take all the flak for bad publicity and that is something.

It takes flak from ignorant fans who don't understand who runs the NCAA.

Maybe the P6 break off but it's not because of penalties.  The same yahoo fans who don't like the NCAA will rail against the new governing body.

[Uncle Rico]

It takes flak from ignorant fans who don't understand who runs the NCAA.

Maybe the P6 break off but it's not because of penalties.  The same yahoo fans who don't like the NCAA will rail against the new governing body.

If they break off, they'll almost certainly become what they are, a true minor league to the NFL and NBA and the players will be compensated like they should be

[muguru]

If they break off, they'll almost certainly become what they are, a true minor league to the NFL and NBA and the players will be compensated like they should be

I honestly don't know why you even watch College BB/Marquette, if you hate the organization they belong to. That's baffling to me. I mean in reality, you're supporting the NCAA which you absolutely loathe.

[WhiteTrash]

If they break off, they'll almost certainly become what they are, a true minor league to the NFL and NBA and the players will be compensated like they should be

Could be but then look out for the IRS.

We could become the Golden Eagles sponsored by Marquette University.

[Uncle Rico]

Could be but then look out for the IRS.

We could become the Golden Eagles sponsored by Marquette University.

They'll get their share, no doubt

[WhiteTrash]

They'll get their share, no doubt

Who's "they"?

It would be MU until some company pays more.

Plus, schools will start amateur sports immediately.

[muguru]

Could be but then look out for the IRS.

We could become the Golden Eagles sponsored by Marquette University.

Yes, because if schools break off and start compensating the players, then they have to become employees, which means the schools lose their tax exempt statuses. That will NEVER happen.

[WhiteTrash]

They'll get their share, no doubt

Oh wait,  did you mean the IRS? Do you know how devastating that will be to non-profit institutions? Public and private?

[The Sultan]

Yes, because if schools break off and start compensating the players, then they have to become employees, which means the schools lose their tax exempt statuses. That will NEVER happen.

Uhhh... what exactly does that have to do with tax exemption?  Not for profits are able to hire people you know.

[Uncle Rico]

Oh wait,  did you mean the IRS? Do you know how devastating that will be to non-profit institutions? Public and private?

Why?  Non-profits pay employees.

You guys clinging to the current model are in for a rude awakening.  It's over. 

[Uncle Rico]

Yes, because if schools break off and start compensating the players, then they have to become employees, which means the schools lose their tax exempt statuses. That will NEVER happen.

You also said NIL would never happen.  It's going to happen. 

You said the courts would defeat it.  That isn't going to happen.

The income generators will get paid

[muguru]

You also said NIL would never happen.  It's going to happen. 

You said the courts would defeat it.  That isn't going to happen.

The income generators will get paid

I asked you a question Rico..I'm sure I will just get a single flippant answer which is typical of you, but why do you even watch/follow Marquette/college BB if you absolutely loathe the organization they belong to?? That's in effect supporting the NCAA, which is pretty incredible for something you absolutely despise.

[Uncle Rico]

I asked you a question Rico..I'm sure I will just get a single flippant answer which is typical of you, but why do you even watch/follow Marquette/college BB if you absolutely loathe the organization they belong to?? That's in effect supporting the NCAA, which is pretty incredible for something you absolutely despise.

To support the oppressed student athletes who have been used to fatten the pocketbooks of conferences and their offices.

One day, they will be paid their true worth and it'll be people like me who helped it happen.

[muguru]

To support the oppressed student athletes who have been used to fatten the pocketbooks of conferences and their offices.

One day, they will be paid their true worth and it'll be people like me who helped it happen.

So basically, you have something against rich people, that's how i read it. LOL How egotistical are you?? You will have NOTHING to do with it. Zero. You crying about it on a message board will have ERO influence. I know you think it will, but it won't.

You know what's really ironic?? You continually bitch about(and you're far from the only one) "opressed" student athletes and how unfairly they are treated, yet, ironically we very rarely ever hear one student athlete say a word about it. Hmmm.