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Author Topic: NCAA investigations cont.  (Read 96106 times)

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Re: NCAA investigations cont.
« Reply #175 on: May 11, 2020, 04:16:01 PM »
Maybe for you or me or other fans. But I doubt this would make many (if any) recruits who had been hoping and dreaming to play for Duke decide to go elsewhere. And I doubt they'll be ESPN's featured game any less. And I doubt they will be invited to fewer prestigious in-season events. Etc, etc, etc.

Maybe recruits who aren't getting the same $$ go elsewhere?
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« Reply #176 on: May 11, 2020, 04:41:23 PM »
Maybe for you or me or other fans. But I doubt this would make many (if any) recruits who had been hoping and dreaming to play for Duke decide to go elsewhere. And I doubt they'll be ESPN's featured game any less. And I doubt they will be invited to fewer prestigious in-season events. Etc, etc, etc.
I think you're right. Kind of like ND football.

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« Reply #177 on: May 11, 2020, 06:06:32 PM »
As far as the 100k goes, notice it says in April of 2019...is that even a problem since that is AFTER the season and his eligibility was up at that point anyway??

that is correct unless it was previously agreed upon transfer to be made once he decided to move on and no longer play college hoops.

For example, signing with an agent the day after the season is over is ok, but if you have a verbal agreement to do so prior to that day then you committed a violation.
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Re: NCAA investigations cont.
« Reply #178 on: May 12, 2020, 02:35:44 PM »




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NEW: Gina Ford’s attorneys send out new discovery requests seeking to connect Zion Williamson to broader NCAA bribery scandal by targeting communications between CAA and the following: Duke, Mike Krzyzewski, Nike, Adidas, Merl Code, Jeffrey Auerbach and Gary Franklin.

https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL/status/1260275214161674240?s=20
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Re: NCAA investigations cont.
« Reply #179 on: May 19, 2020, 04:53:58 PM »
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Source: The NCAA Committee on infractions has requested that the Kansas NCAA infractions case be referred to the IARP independent review panel. This is the second SDNY case trending that way, as NC State is there. (As @ByPatForde
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« Reply #180 on: May 20, 2020, 07:59:09 PM »
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Source: The NCAA Committee on infractions has requested that the Kansas NCAA infractions case be referred to the IARP independent review panel. This is the second SDNY case trending that way, as NC State is there. (As @ByPatForde
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Anyone wager a guess why the infractions committee won't issue a ruling on their own?

How often does the buck get passed like this?

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« Reply #181 on: May 20, 2020, 08:07:01 PM »
Anyone wager a guess why the infractions committee won't issue a ruling on their own?

How often does the buck get passed like this?

This is a new committee that was formed within the last two years. They haven't heard a case yet, but sounds like NC State and Memphis will both be appearing in front of them as well.

You can read more about it here..

https://iarpcc.org/

One key thing about this committee is there is no appeals process. Their decision is final
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« Reply #182 on: May 20, 2020, 10:19:36 PM »
Let's not forget that NC State, Kansas,  etc. are part of the schools that make these rules for the NCAA.

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« Reply #183 on: May 20, 2020, 10:25:09 PM »
Let's not forget that NC State, Kansas,  etc. are part of the schools that make these rules for the NCAA.

Yup, and the member schools ASKED for this committee because they wanted something "unbiased". So now you know what's going to happen?? The schools that have their cases heard in front of this committee are going to bitch because they can't appeal..so..they will sue instead.
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« Reply #184 on: May 20, 2020, 11:28:32 PM »
Yup, and the member schools ASKED for this committee because they wanted something "unbiased". So now you know what's going to happen?? The schools that have their cases heard in front of this committee are going to bitch because they can't appeal..so..they will sue instead.
Right? What would a college degree be worth if the ethics of the academic side of these schools were the same as the athletic side?

As I've mentioned before, my friend and big booster of KU told me Self is guilty as charged. He and many KU boosters are ready to move on.

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« Reply #185 on: May 21, 2020, 06:10:36 AM »
Right? What would a college degree be worth if the ethics of the academic side of these schools were the same as the athletic side?

As I've mentioned before, my friend and big booster of KU told me Self is guilty as charged. He and many KU boosters are ready to move on.

Of course on the Kansas board all they are talking about is sue, sue sue, disband the NCAA yadda yadda yadda..they think they are making an example of KU and how the NCAA never enforces penalties the same. Ummm, well let's see, first of all, let's say someone commits a robbery, does every single offender get the exact same sentence every time?? It doesn't matter that even IF KU had no knowledge of this going on(they did), Self can still get a show cause because the NCAA rule says even if A Coach doesn't know, he should know and he is responsible for everything that goes on in his program. It's ridiculous how much fan bases cry foul over this stuff and live in a world of denial...5 level 1 violations...and they expect to skate scott free?? It will be interesting to see how this independent committee rules on different cases...I know I sure wouldn't want to go in front of it.
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Re: NCAA investigations cont.
« Reply #186 on: May 21, 2020, 07:31:50 AM »
Anyone wager a guess why the infractions committee won't issue a ruling on their own?

How often does the buck get passed like this?

They can't figure out how to punish Mizzou, again.

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« Reply #187 on: June 05, 2020, 11:19:03 AM »
NCAA is done unnatural carnal knowledgeing around...Ok St gets postseason ban

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1268938741944590336?s=20
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« Reply #188 on: June 05, 2020, 11:21:24 AM »
NCAA is done unnatural carnal knowledgeing around...Ok St gets postseason ban

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1268938741944590336?s=20

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« Reply #189 on: June 05, 2020, 11:28:30 AM »
NCAA is done unnatural carnal knowledgeing around...Ok St gets postseason ban

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1268938741944590336?s=20

Should’ve been a year from now. This punishes the kids in the program now who had nothing to do with this. Announce their ban for the 2022 postseason and let kids leave between now and the start of the 21-22 season with no sit out year.
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« Reply #190 on: June 05, 2020, 11:37:01 AM »
Should’ve been a year from now. This punishes the kids in the program now who had nothing to do with this. Announce their ban for the 2022 postseason and let kids leave between now and the start of the 21-22 season with no sit out year.

They can leave now and wouldn't have to sit a year..they would all be granted a waiver
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« Reply #191 on: June 05, 2020, 12:15:39 PM »
Should’ve been a year from now. This punishes the kids in the program now who had nothing to do with this. Announce their ban for the 2022 postseason and let kids leave between now and the start of the 21-22 season with no sit out year.

Isn’t that always the argument that the kids today are punished for behavior on the past?  No good timelines to avoid that I can think of. 

Good to see NCAA punishing the cheaters. 
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« Reply #192 on: June 05, 2020, 01:01:25 PM »
Cade Cunningham to MU

I know that this is in teal, and that we wouldn't be involved if he became available, but since these sanctions have come in, would he be able to get a release from his LOI if he wanted?  Any chance he would just James Wiseman it since he's pretty much a lock for the lottery?

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« Reply #193 on: June 05, 2020, 01:47:53 PM »
Maybe now players looking at Kansas, Arizona, and such for 2021 won’t believe the “Oh, its no big deal.” BS they’re hearing from those schools.

A year late for Nico, but Kendal Brown - come on down.
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« Reply #194 on: June 05, 2020, 01:52:55 PM »
NCAA is done unnatural carnal knowledgeing around...Ok St gets postseason ban

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1268938741944590336?s=20

....and 3 years of reduced scholarships by 3.  10 year show cause for the coach involved. Coach did the same thing at South Carolina, too. So, whaz up, Gamecocks.
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« Reply #195 on: June 05, 2020, 01:57:07 PM »
*Yawn*

Wake me when LSU, Arizona, Kansas, Auburn, etc get hit.

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« Reply #196 on: June 05, 2020, 02:14:12 PM »
I know that this is in teal, and that we wouldn't be involved if he became available, but since these sanctions have come in, would he be able to get a release from his LOI if he wanted?  Any chance he would just James Wiseman it since he's pretty much a lock for the lottery?

1 - getting a release from whatever an "LOI" is wouldn't help MU since he'd have to be released from his NLI (National Letter of Intent). He just has to request to be released from his NLI.
2 - The G-League will be all over him so I would imagine he'll go that route.
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« Reply #197 on: June 05, 2020, 02:16:37 PM »
1 - getting a release from whatever an "LOI" is wouldn't help MU since he'd have to be released from his NLI (National Letter of Intent). He just has to request to be released from his NLI.
2 - The G-League will be all over him so I would imagine he'll go that route.

Different nomenclature.  "LOI" was supposed to be "letter of Intent".  We're talking about the same thing.

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« Reply #198 on: June 05, 2020, 02:18:36 PM »
*Yawn*

Wake me when LSU, Arizona, Kansas, Auburn, etc get hit.

Oklahoma State has historically been a more powerful program than LSU or Auburn. 
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« Reply #199 on: June 05, 2020, 02:19:28 PM »
*Yawn*

Wake me when LSU, Arizona, Kansas, Auburn, etc get hit.

and then when they get hammered you'll complain that others aren't sanctioned.
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