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[WhoaJoe2020]

And if injuries, fatigue, and internal strife return, it could be another poor finish.  So far, they have fought through the injuries and fatigue.   

Joey thinking he was the next H.E. was the only problem with internal strife last year IMHO.

As far as fatigue and injuries go, nothing's a given.

This break does come at the perfect time though. I hope they use the time wisely. Rest, good nutrition, and rehab. The rest will play out as fate allows.

[Jables1604]

I also didn't realize what a cakewalk 18 boards in a major D1 game is either. You're not playing basketball hard or susceptible to fatigue from the game unless you're jacking threes. Got it.

I guess we know where you stand when it comes to the NBA and the dawning era of load management (no Jay Bee).

[HutchwasClutch]

I should also had we are the only BE team to play 10 games so far in conference.

You can dislike the tired legs excuse all you want. Nothing wrong with that.

But continuing to argue that other teams are in the exact same situation as us is blatantly wrong. We have played more games then everyone, we have played 6 in a short stretch with back to back OT games.

Yesterday was X's third game of the week and 2nd on the road. Stop the pity party for MU already. 

For people here new to major college basketball, there are tough stretches every team goes through. Our two games in 8 days, one of them at home is hardly a tough stretch. We've played more total games than 3 of other Big East schools. The other 6. we've played the exact same number, so what are you talking about no one has played more games, our situation is somehow unique??? 

[tower912]

5 wins in the last 6 games.   No apologies necessary.

[Cheeks]

I was a little surprised/bummed at the loud boos and %u201Cfire Wojo%u201D chants from the students when he was introduced. But, I was super impressed at the end, place was loud and jumpin! Winning solves all problems

We have entitled fans....super lame.  But nothing is smarter than 18-22 year olds....especially drunk.  Good thing these idiots don't fulfill their civic duties too often....complete morons.

[hairy worthen]

We have entitled fans....super lame.  But nothing is smarter than 18-22 year olds....especially drunk.  Good thing these idiots don't fulfill their civic duties too often....complete morons.

You are right there is nothing smarter than an 18-22 year old. I just asked mine and he agreed.

[PGsHeroes32]

Yesterday was X's third game of the week and 2nd on the road. Stop the pity party for MU already. 

For people here new to major college basketball, there are tough stretches every team goes through. Our two games in 8 days, one of them at home is hardly a tough stretch. We've played more total games than 3 of other Big East schools. The other 6. we've played the exact same number, so what are you talking about no one has played more games, our situation is somehow unique???

No pity party, just facts. You can continue to argue against facts, but it just makes you look like the idiot.

I am not using the tired legs excuse.

I am arguing that every team is not in the same boat as us........because they aren't. This is not my opinion vs anyone elses, this is a fact.

[cheebs09]

We have entitled fans....super lame.  But nothing is smarter than 18-22 year olds....especially drunk.  Good thing these idiots don't fulfill their civic duties too often....complete morons.

[CountryRoads]

The loud boos for Wojo yesterday were concentrated into one area at the top of the student section on the side of the Marquette bench. Seems like it's just one group of kids, not the entire crowd or even the majority of the student section. Drawing 17k against a 1-8 DePaul team leads me to believe there are still a lot of positive feelings about MU/Wojo among the general fan base.

[HutchwasClutch]

No pity party, just facts. You can continue to argue against facts, but it just makes you look like the idiot.

I am not using the tired legs excuse.

I am arguing that every team is not in the same boat as us........because they aren't. This is not my opinion vs anyone elses, this is a fact.

WTH "boat" are you talking about? We've played a grand total of one more conference game than the other 9.   That's it?  We're a special case for that?

Go to another teams fan board, tell everyone how awful we've had it, and come back and share everyone's sympathy towards us.

Every team has a different "boat" of things that do and don't break their way through course of a season. Any sport

[MU82]

The loud boos for Wojo yesterday were concentrated into one area at the top of the student section on the side of the Marquette bench. Seems like it's just one group of kids, not the entire crowd or even the majority of the student section. Drawing 17k against a 1-8 DePaul team leads me to believe there is still a lot of positive feelings about MU/Wojo among the general fan base.

I like this post. I hope you are right that an overwhelmingly large majority of Marquette folks are happy to be associated with our hard-working, successful program.

[PGsHeroes32]

WTH "boat" are you talking about? We've played a grand total of one more conference game than the other 9.   That's it?  We're a special case for that?

Go to another teams fan board, tell everyone how awful we've had it, and come back and share everyone's sympathy towards us.

Every team has a different "boat" of things that do and don't break their way through course of a season. Any sport

Man are you stupid.

Read the thread idiot.

I am not the one who brought up teams being in the same boat. And for now the 3rd time I am not looking for sympathy for MU, I AM NOT USING ANYTHING AS AN EXCUSE.

This would all go a lot better if you just acknowledged you have a clear cognitive disability that is affecting your ability to contribute in any form to this discussion.

[WhoaJoe2020]

WTH "boat" are you talking about? We've played a grand total of one more conference game than the other 9.   That's it?  We're a special case for that?

Go to another teams fan board, tell everyone how awful we've had it, and come back and share everyone's sympathy towards us.

Every team has a different "boat" of things that do and don't break their way through course of a season. Any sport

It's been explained to you multiple times.

Situations vary wildly between different teams and conditions change with time.

Fatigue could easily be considered a factor related to poor outside shooting in the DePaul game.

Fatigue won't be able to be considered in the Butler game. 

See how that works???

[jsglow]

The loud boos for Wojo yesterday were concentrated into one area at the top of the student section on the side of the Marquette bench. Seems like it's just one group of kids, not the entire crowd or even the majority of the student section. Drawing 17k against a 1-8 DePaul team leads me to believe there is still a lot of positive feelings about MU/Wojo among the general fan base.

The students always benefit when there's a group of Superfan upperclassmen who set the tone.  There's nothing better than a respected Senior who tells some stupid Frosh to STFU.  I'm now far enough removed from my kids' days on campus that I don't know any of them anymore.  But back in the mid 2010's I got to know several of them quite well.  Amazing how those outstanding guys/girls are now leaders in the Young Alumni assoc, etc.

[HutchwasClutch]

Man are you stupid.

Read the thread idiot.

I am not the one who brought up teams being in the same boat. And for now the 3rd time I am not looking for sympathy for MU, I AM NOT USING ANYTHING AS AN EXCUSE.

This would all go a lot better if you just acknowledged you have a clear cognitive disability that is affecting your ability to contribute in any form to this discussion.

You didn't bring it up originally, so what?  I was responding to the word you used.

If you're not making excuses or looking for sympathy, I'll be damned if there's a point behind what you've said here then. I guess it was a long list of whining.

[mu_hilltopper]

The booing is 95% students, in my opinion. Only reason I think that, was way it was louder yesterday  and the Nova game. Barely hear it for the weeknight games. Ridiculous.

Disagree it was primarily students.  I was 2 sections away from the students .. yesterday's booing of Wojo's introduction was coming from everywhere, and I thought the epicenter was the middle sections.   It was short, but frankly startling, not just 100 discontents .. had to be 10x that to make that volume.

[wadesworld]

So what started as a quiet group of 100 people booing Wojo when we started off 1-3 in the BE has grown to 1,000 fans boing Wojo as we've gone 5-1 in our last 6 BE games? MU fans are just the best.

Right around a top 30 KenPom team, right around a top 25 NET team, alone in 4th place in the 2nd best conference in America. Does it call for wild cheering? Not necessarily. Booing? What an embarrassment.

[PGsHeroes32]

You didn't bring it up originally, so what?  I was responding to the word you used.

If you're not making excuses or looking for sympathy, I'll be damned if there's a point behind what you've said here then. I guess it was a long list of whining.

I stated the point, unfortunately I do not have the appropriate super powers to get you to understand the point.

[HutchwasClutch]

Disagree it was primarily students.  I was 2 sections away from the students .. yesterday's booing of Wojo's introduction was coming from everywhere, and I thought the epicenter was the middle sections. 

Agree completely on both points. I'm not sure where people are hearing student section

[Cheeks]

Disagree it was primarily students.  I was 2 sections away from the students .. yesterday's booing of Wojo's introduction was coming from everywhere, and I thought the epicenter was the middle sections.   It was short, but frankly startling, not just 100 discontents .. had to be 10x that to make that volume.

Watch him leave and when the unicorn doesn't come in and we start all over again....it will serve out entitled fans a healthy dose of reality.  Oooohhhhh is this great or what.  Yay. Yay. Yay

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

So what started as a quiet group of 100 people booing Wojo when we started off 1-3 in the BE has grown to 1,000 fans boing Wojo as we've gone 5-1 in our last 6 BE games? MU fans are just the best.

Right around a top 30 KenPom team, right around a top 25 NET team, alone in 4th place in the 2nd best conference in America. Does it call for wild cheering? Not necessarily. Booing? What an embarrassment.

Maybe MU needs to remind the fans of how "great" the team is by flashing the Kenpom stats prior to the entrance.   

Also, could change the intro music to:  *Curb Your Enthusiasm*

[Cheeks]

Agree completely on both points. I'm not sure where people are hearing student section

I spoke to my son this morning and he said some students were.  I asked why and he said because they are short sighted, think that someone like Izzo is coming.  We both laughed.

[21Jumpstreet]

The booing is also pretty stupid because the optics on that to recruits is terrible, and it would be hard not to get somewhat resentful if you are Wojo given the time,  energy and stress the coaches deal with.  It could certainly be a factor if other opportunities arise for him at some point. For the students booing, the reality is if they get what they apparently wish for, they are pretty much assured to have a significant drop in the quality of the team during their short window at the school due to losing recruiting classes and potentially current players. Yes, there are exceptions, but that is more often the case.

I am not firmly projo or nojo, but there is enough momentum in the program that I want to see this play out a bit more given the current and incoming talent. Booing the head coach of a team that is doing pretty well this season and indisputably has heart and plays hard is really stupid to me. People don't have to love the guy, and I get the arguments beaten to death here about the lowered expectations, investment in the program and five years is enough. People can write letters to the AD or even Wojo  to express their displeasure. I have no issue with that. To me, the public display of booing the coach at games is counter-productive to what a fan of the program should be rooting for. It can't feel good for the coach or team, and certainly doesn't look good to recruits, parents of recruits, prospective coaches, media and other observers. Certainly not classy either. No problem if people choose not to cheer him, but booing is in no way going to help the program and under the circumstances reflects poorly on the fan base even though it is a minority of the crowd booing. It's not like we are 5-16.

This sums it up for me. I did see some students trying to shut it down, too. I am sure this is pure coincidence, but when I got in the car after the game to hear Wojo, it was Stan. Couldn't help but wonder if Wojo was a bit miffed and didn't do the radio postgame.

[rocky_warrior]

Wow, I see everyone's already in mid-off-week bickering form.  This should be fun...

[21Jumpstreet]

The loud boos for Wojo yesterday were concentrated into one area at the top of the student section on the side of the Marquette bench. Seems like it's just one group of kids, not the entire crowd or even the majority of the student section. Drawing 17k against a 1-8 DePaul team leads me to believe there are still a lot of positive feelings about MU/Wojo among the general fan base.

That's interesting, as my seats are up from the baseline end of MU bench, and it was loud and clear. They were the loudest boos yet, and when the Fire Wojo chant started, I was surprised. I'm not a Wojo fan, but to argue that he isn't doing all he can, along with the players, to win and improve MU b-ball is a non-starter.