COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[pbiflyer]

I saw some people above in the thread passing this article of Ginn's around below. So I wanted to point it out.

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

It is still wrong, misleading and filled with assumptions that are unlikely at best. Reposting it doesn't make it any more valid.

[forgetful]

I saw some people above in the thread passing this article of Ginn's around below. So I wanted to point it out.

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

Interesting, was also not a fan of that article at all. Very selective in what data he used. In many regards very inaccurate. It read to me just like how a lot of "health sites" abuse data to prove whatever point they want.

There are enough nuggets in it to make it seem informed and reasonable, but leaves out all data, even if there is more of it, that disproves their agenda.

[shoothoops]

It is still wrong, misleading and filled with assumptions that are unlikely at best. Reposting it doesn't make it any more valid.

? Huh?

I am the one that pointed out those things about the piece being wrong, misleading, etc...above, and the author.  My previous post didn't include the link, so I added it to make sure people understood who the person was and the piece that I was referencing.

[pbiflyer]

Sorry, misunderstood. Just assumed people would click on the link from the twitter link.

[shoothoops]

Interesting, was also not a fan of that article at all. Very selective in what data he used. In many regards very inaccurate. It read to me just like how a lot of "health sites" abuse data to prove whatever point they want.

There are enough nuggets in it to make it seem informed and reasonable, but leaves out all data, even if there is more of it, that disproves their agenda.

Yep.

[shoothoops]

Sorry, misunderstood. Just assumed people would click on the link from the twitter link.

No worries I should have been more clear the first time.

[MU82]

There is little that is dispassionate, impartial or nonpartisan about that article.

The writer has a firm opinion, rooted in his ideology, and has cherry-picked data that support it.

Some of the charts and graphs are interesting, however.

[Hards Alumni]

BREAKING: Italy reports 6,557 new cases of coronavirus and 793 new deaths, raising total to 53,578 cases and 4,825 dead

Ugh.

[JWags85]

Some of the charts and graphs are interesting, however.

It was clearly slanted but I found some of the alternative data points interesting. Everything is getting absurdly political these days. It feels like it's become even more profoundly "it's just the flu, this is all liberal plot" vs "90% of of the population will be infected by July 4th and every older person you love will die and the Great Depression will be a cakewalk". No in between. It's exhausting to try and find any sort of moderate take. People have chosen their sides and dug in, just like everything else partisan these days

[TSmith34, Inc.]

BREAKING: Italy reports 6,557 new cases of coronavirus and 793 new deaths, raising total to 53,578 cases and 4,825 dead

Ugh.

If you believe the theory that it takes 23-24 days to resolve an infection (either recovered or dead), the people dying now caught the virus around the last few days of February.  Italy didn't lock down until March 13th.  That would mean they are going to see another two weeks of escalating death tolls until it, hopefully, starts to level off and then decrease.

The US still isn't in a lockdown, it is a patchwork depending on local authorities. Texas finally officially closed schools statewide only yesterday and prohibited dine-in at bars and restaurants.  Thankfully a lot of locals took matters into their hands earlier, but this haphazard  reaction means things are likely to get worse for at least the next three weeks.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Lots of masks, gloves, googles, gowns in closed university labs. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

It was clearly slanted but I found some of the alternative data points interesting. Everything is getting absurdly political these days. It feels like it's become even more profoundly "it's just the flu, this is all liberal plot" vs "90% of of the population will be infected by July 4th and every older person you love will die and the Great Depression will be a cakewalk". No in between. It's exhausting to try and find any sort of moderate take. People have chosen their sides and dug in, just like everything else partisan these days

I disagree wags.  I have found many people change their views on this as new info came forward.  Also, this is an exogenous shock that the world hasn't experienced — particularly the speed of this becoming a global problem.  Probably makes sense there are extreme views and things that are outdated by the min.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

This could be a game changer in an eventual partial return to normal.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488807-fda-authorizes-first-rapid-point-of-care-coronavirus-test

[injuryBug]

It was clearly slanted but I found some of the alternative data points interesting. Everything is getting absurdly political these days. It feels like it's become even more profoundly "it's just the flu, this is all liberal plot" vs "90% of of the population will be infected by July 4th and every older person you love will die and the Great Depression will be a cakewalk". No in between. It's exhausting to try and find any sort of moderate take. People have chosen their sides and dug in, just like everything else partisan these days

agree completely i just want normal life back. 

[MU82]

This could be a game changer in an eventual partial return to normal.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488807-fda-authorizes-first-rapid-point-of-care-coronavirus-test

Very exciting if it's as effective as Cepheid claims.

[Hards Alumni]

If you believe the theory that it takes 23-24 days to resolve an infection (either recovered or dead), the people dying now caught the virus around the last few days of February.  Italy didn't lock down until March 13th.  That would mean they are going to see another two weeks of escalating death tolls until it, hopefully, starts to level off and then decrease.

The US still isn't in a lockdown, it is a patchwork depending on local authorities. Texas finally officially closed schools statewide only yesterday and prohibited dine-in at bars and restaurants.  Thankfully a lot of locals took matters into their hands earlier, but this haphazard  reaction means things are likely to get worse for at least the next three weeks.

Exactly, that's why I'm disgusted.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

If you believe the theory that it takes 23-24 days to resolve an infection (either recovered or dead), the people dying now caught the virus around the last few days of February.  Italy didn't lock down until March 13th.  That would mean they are going to see another two weeks of escalating death tolls until it, hopefully, starts to level off and then decrease.

The US still isn't in a lockdown, it is a patchwork depending on local authorities. Texas finally officially closed schools statewide only yesterday and prohibited dine-in at bars and restaurants.  Thankfully a lot of locals took matters into their hands earlier, but this haphazard  reaction means things are likely to get worse for at least the next three weeks.

This is sad, but couldnt this timeline be accelerated if someone does not get medical treatment.  I also saw something that pointed to the fact that Bergamo had 108 more deaths YTD versus last year.  Only a third have been officially called Covid, but many more died at home or in a nursing home and just never tested & counted...

I hope they start seeing progress. 

[jesmu84]

It was clearly slanted but I found some of the alternative data points interesting. Everything is getting absurdly political these days. It feels like it's become even more profoundly "it's just the flu, this is all liberal plot" vs "90% of of the population will be infected by July 4th and every older person you love will die and the Great Depression will be a cakewalk". No in between. It's exhausting to try and find any sort of moderate take. People have chosen their sides and dug in, just like everything else partisan these days

Lack of leadership

[WarriorDad]

sorry, I'll do better next time.



We worried yet?

US population much larger than Italy.  More than 5x. 

[Hards Alumni]

US population much larger than Italy.  More than 5x.

And today we are well over 25,000.  I don't see your point.  We are going to blow past Italy's numbers, and this isn't a race we should be trying to win.

[pbiflyer]

US population much larger than Italy.  More than 5x.

Yet we have less hospital beds per person than Italy does. We can be overwhelmed faster than Italy. Already seeing shortages in NY and other areas. Add in normal hospital load and we are potentially in a world of hurt.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

First time I can put a face on Coronavirus.
Someone I know, not well, but my wife and mother-in-law do, passed away from Coronavirus today here in Connecticut.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

A friend of the family works at Yale New Haven Hospital as an X-ray Tech.  She said they are expecting an enslaught of patients next week.
And they already don't have enough masks and they are soaking in something overnight to kill gems so they can reuse.

[Johnny B]

One of my "buddies" from college is partying it up on the beach in flrodia. Irresponsible careless loser

[rocky_warrior]

US population much larger than Italy.  More than 5x.

And? You find it totally acceptable that it's spreading at a much faster rate? Cool bro