Fire Wojo signs in the dorms

[Silent Verbal]

Baldwin made numerous tough shots. It happens.

I seem to recall Wade in the NBA finals against the Spurs going on an even more amazing run. I guess Popovich is the same quality of coach as Wojo.

You talk about people having agendas, but no one's agenda is more obvious than your own.  You find zero fault in anything Wojo does and will defend him no matter what.  You have this dumb notion that you need to white knight for Wojo, because if you don't Mane will decide to go elsewhere.  It doesn't matter, Joe.  Mane and other recruits don't care about Scoop.  You aren't making a difference.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Nice try at avoiding the point.

If you really didn't care about rankings and all you cared about was ultimate success, you wouldn't be constantly pushing for Wojo to be replaced.

A blind man could see the potential this team has.

Wojo has the team competing this year despite some major adversity, and has assembled a potential top ten recruiting class for next year. Of course he gets no credit for that from people like you.

Like I said. You are a fraud.

Wojo has lost 2 games this year alone, to his poor coaching skills (and others in years past).  After 21 years of Division I experience, 15 of those with the greatest college basketball coach of all time, you should know basic defensive strategy - ie double teaming the 1 guy on the court who's lighting you up.  That's basic high school coaching strategy there.  The game shouldn't have even come down to that embarrassing moment where Wojo lost track of the score.  *Insert Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme Music Here*

You want a Kenpom rating

I want W's

#WhoaJoeDoesntKnowBasketball

[wadesworld]

You are too much. Chico's on steroids.

Forgetting  the score was a huge factor. They were one defensive stop from stealing a huge win.

What?  Butler had the ball with the shot clock off and a tie game.  They were one defensive stop from getting the game to overtime.  The best case scenario for Marquette at that point was to get to overtime.  Marquette got to overtime.

[Elonsmusk]

You talk about people having agendas, but no one's agenda is more obvious than your own.  You find zero fault in anything Wojo does and will defend him no matter what.  You have this dumb notion that you need to white knight for Wojo, because if you don't Mane will decide to go elsewhere.  It doesn't matter, Joe.  Mane and other recruits don't care about Scoop.  You aren't making a difference.

Really?  WhoaJoe's White knight act could make all the difference in the world.

In fact, if Karim Mane does sign with MU, it is likely on commit day Karim will reference WhoaJoe, as having played a big part in his decision.  We are fortunate to have WhoaJoe in our fanbase and on Scoop.

[hairy worthen]

What?  Butler had the ball with the shot clock off and a tie game.  They were one defensive stop from getting the game to overtime.  The best case scenario for Marquette at that point was to get to overtime.  Marquette got to overtime.

Correct my bad. Could have lost them the game, didn t directly

[Markusquette]

Wojo's mistake would have been an afterthought if MU ended up winning in OT.

[WhoaJoe2020]

You talk about people having agendas, but no one's agenda is more obvious than your own.  You find zero fault in anything Wojo does and will defend him no matter what.  You have this dumb notion that you need to white knight for Wojo, because if you don't Mane will decide to go elsewhere.  It doesn't matter, Joe.  Mane and other recruits don't care about Scoop.  You aren't making a difference.

You obviously don't read closely. I just ripped Wojo in another post for not getting a T when Markus got put to the floor. A coach not aggressively standing up for his players is a far bigger flaw than not being aware of the score in one instance that ultimately did not affect the outcome of the game.

I've also criticized him for how he handles Markus. I think he's using him as a recruiting tool. I understand things from his point of view and from Markus' point of view. The chances of Markus being the catalyst for a win or a loss is a 50-50 proposition, so why not ride him and let him showcase his skills for the NBA scouts. The fact that by giving Markus the ultimate green light Wojo is possibly attracting top recruits, makes it even more reasonable. That doesn't mean it makes what he's doing right.

Unfortunately, graduating players into the NBA is  an important factor in recruiting, and the only way Markus is making it in the league is by showcasing his offensive ability. It sucks, but it's reality.

Markus' high usage has worn him down in the past, and I see the writing on the wall this season as well. If Greg wasn't hurt, and Symir wasn't a defensive liability Wojo may have reduced Markus' load this year. I guess we'll never know.
It doesn't change the fact that Markus has been doing too much for too long. Wojos whiff on Chartouny last year was another mistake I criticized him for. That mistake led  directly to Markus having to carry an undue burden, and his late season fade.

In short, Wojo does things that irritate me, but they aren't game breakers, and they certainly aren't as trivial as a fairly meaningless in game decision.

[WarriorDad]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7wtLOyHY16/

If I were Coach Wojo and staff, knock on this person's dorm room.  Say hello, bring a pizza and maybe a few players to have a dialogue.  Thank them for being passionate for the team.  Do it in good taste.  Invite them to a practice or behind the scenes opportunity to see what goes into coaching.  Maybe both sides can learn something. 

[WhoaJoe2020]

Really?  WhoaJoe's White knight act could make all the difference in the world.

In fact, if Karim Mane does sign with MU, it is likely on commit day Karim will reference WhoaJoe, as having played a big part in his decision.  We are fortunate to have WhoaJoe in our fanbase and on Scoop.

How ironically clueless can you be.

Karin Manes decision is far more likely to be influenced by children scribbling nasty things on message board walls, and putting up signs in dorm windows.

I'm basically here to suggest that during an important season and recruiting period those children should refrain from acting on their childish impulses. At least until Mane is signed and Marquettes tournament fate has been decided.

I'm no white knight but you and some others are definitely black knights.

[WarriorPride68]

[WarriorFan]

Good lord...to even remotely equivocate Dukiet to Wojo for someone of your "caliber" is pathetic.  But maybe as the ultra alum big booster you are...you can make a difference.

Correct.  Dukiet, despite being a horrible coach, was far more interesting.

[f/k/a humanlung]

Correct.  Dukiet, despite being a horrible coach, was far more interesting.

True.  To date Wojo has demonstrated no ability to play the piano let alone the more difficult skill of carrying a tune.

[Afroman]

Wojo has lost 2 games this year alone, to his poor coaching skills (and others in years past).  After 21 years of Division I experience, 15 of those with the greatest college basketball coach of all time, you should know basic defensive strategy - ie double teaming the 1 guy on the court who's lighting you up.  That's basic high school coaching strategy there.  The game shouldn't have even come down to that embarrassing moment where Wojo lost track of the score.  *Insert Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme Music Here*

You want a Kenpom rating

I want W's

#WhoaJoeDoesntKnowBasketball

Thanks, Deaner. Now I have the "Curb" theme song in my head.

[#UnleashSean]

You obviously don't read closely. I just ripped Wojo in another post for not getting a T when Markus got put to the floor. A coach not aggressively standing up for his players is a far bigger flaw than not being aware of the score in one instance that ultimately did not affect the outcome of the game.

I've also criticized him for how he handles Markus. I think he's using him as a recruiting tool. I understand things from his point of view and from Markus' point of view. The chances of Markus being the catalyst for a win or a loss is a 50-50 proposition, so why not ride him and let him showcase his skills for the NBA scouts. The fact that by giving Markus the ultimate green light Wojo is possibly attracting top recruits, makes it even more reasonable. That doesn't mean it makes what he's doing right.

Unfortunately, graduating players into the NBA is  an important factor in recruiting, and the only way Markus is making it in the league is by showcasing his offensive ability. It sucks, but it's reality.

Markus' high usage has worn him down in the past, and I see the writing on the wall this season as well. If Greg wasn't hurt, and Symir wasn't a defensive liability Wojo may have reduced Markus' load this year. I guess we'll never know.
It doesn't change the fact that Markus has been doing too much for too long. Wojos whiff on Chartouny last year was another mistake I criticized him for. That mistake led  directly to Markus having to carry an undue burden, and his late season fade.

In short, Wojo does things that irritate me, but they aren't game breakers, and they certainly aren't as trivial as a fairly meaningless in game decision.

So 2 things. It's pretty clear Howard didn't get smacked in the head by an elbow.

Getting a T would have severly hurt Marquettes chances.

[fjm]

With all this talk about rankings you'd think we should hang a banner.

With all this negative talk after a loss. You'd think we should just cancel the season.

#terribletake

[WhoaJoe2020]

So 2 things. It's pretty clear Howard didn't get smacked in the head by an elbow.

Getting a T would have severly hurt Marquettes chances.

Talk to tower and others who have it on dvr. Baddleys right elbow caught Markus on the right side of the head. Not only did he hit him, I personally believe it was intentional and it should have been reviewed as a flagrant foul.

The foul happened with over 15 minutes left in the game and Marquette had a decent lead.

Did you even watch the game??

[Cheeks]

You are too much. Chico's on steroids.

Forgetting  the score was a huge factor. They were one defensive stop from stealing a huge win.

Not sure I understand.  Forgetting the score was a huge boner, but if we do stop them we are still going to OT most likely.  Depending on when they took the shot, if they missed we go to OT 68-68....what am I missing?

[Cheeks]

Correct.  Dukiet, despite being a horrible coach, was far more interesting.

Some of you have lost your minds, but your comments don't surprise me. I remember some of our fans admitting Crean had done some things no one not named McGuire had done at MU, but they would rather have Deane because he drank with them after the games at Turners.  Truly amazing stuff.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

By all means, give credence to a statistical format that increases your ranking after a loss when the team you lose to is missing both of its starting guards and the backup scorches you. 

Are you referring to the Butler game here? Cause they were only missing one starter. They were also missing a backup but he has never started a game and is 7th on the team in minutes played.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So 2 things. It's pretty clear Howard didn't get smacked in the head by an elbow.

Getting a T would have severly hurt Marquettes chances.

He did get elbowed by Baddley. That is a fact. The emphasis Whoa Joe is putting on it? That is a lot less than a fact.

I agree with you on the T. I've never been a ref but I feel like a coach going off on them doesn't have any meaningful impact on how the game is called. Maybe I'm wrong, I know a lot of people think its an important strategy. I could maybe see the value in a home game just to get the crowd riled up but have hard time that it is worth more than 2 likely points and an extra possession for the opponent.

[hairy worthen]

Not sure I understand.  Forgetting the score was a huge boner, but if we do stop them we are still going to OT most likely.  Depending on when they took the shot, if they missed we go to OT 68-68....what am I missing?

You are missing about 12 posts up.

[#UnleashSean]

Talk to tower and others who have it on dvr. Baddleys right elbow caught Markus on the right side of the head. Not only did he hit him, I personally believe it was intentional and it should have been reviewed as a flagrant foul.

The foul happened with over 15 minutes left in the game and Marquette had a decent lead.

Did you even watch the game??

Well, its 2020. So I absolutely don't need to talk to anyone with a DVR. I can just see it myself at anytime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BOvh9yaDE0 (4:32)

Slow it down to .25 to see very clearly that...

1. It wasnt intentional at all, your dumb. 
2. You can clearly see Baddley's right elbow the entire time he is in the air.
3. The elbow never goes off screen, meaning it never made contact with Markus.
4. Markus' head is clearly past Baddley's right side, for contact with a right elbow baddley had to have swung it inwards, he didn't.
5. Markus' never recoils from a blow to the face one would do if an elbow hit him at full speed.
6. In fact he doesn't show any sign of being hit until he makes contact with the chair. Where he recoils instantly.
7. At most he may have got him with groin or knee that sent him flying

[goldeneagle91114]

He shouldn't be fired.

But we've also been in the Top 25 for a total of three months out of 5+ years and that's not okay either.  Neither is zero tourney wins in that period. 

Some people are going to need to accept that the above is going to cause unrest within the fanbase.  And it's on Wojo to fix it.  Now.

This! +100,000

Like it or not success is measured in rankings, conference titles (regular season &. Tournament) and NCAA wins

[Galway Eagle]

This! +100,000

Like it or not success is measured in rankings, conference titles (regular season &. Tournament) and NCAA wins

That's a bit misleading. You can't do a month to year comparison when there's no ranking 7/8 months of the year.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Well, its 2020. So I absolutely don't need to talk to anyone with a DVR. I can just see it myself at anytime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BOvh9yaDE0 (4:32)

Slow it down to .25 to see very clearly that...

1. It wasnt intentional at all, your dumb. 
2. You can clearly see Baddley's right elbow the entire time he is in the air.
3. The elbow never goes off screen, meaning it never made contact with Markus.
4. Markus' head is clearly past Baddley's right side, for contact with a right elbow baddley had to have swung it inwards, he didn't.
5. Markus' never recoils from a blow to the face one would do if an elbow hit him at full speed.
6. In fact he doesn't show any sign of being hit until he makes contact with the chair. Where he recoils instantly.
7. At most he may have got him with groin or knee that sent him flying

I know what I saw and others have reviewed it on dvr and observed the same thing.

Do you think I would listen to somebody who thinks that a coach drawing a technical with over 15 minutes left in the game and a decent lead would have severely hurt Marquettes chances of winning???

You lost all credibility right there.