Bitchin' Kamar-o

[pacearrow02]

Great game and not a bad loss at all....Wojo definitely signaled for Bailey to foul so that's on him and I hope he owns it but with how the game shook out it had zero effect on the result.

So frustrating to continue to see such a vocal minority of our fanbase cheer and pick him apart with every decision. We fire him and we probably lose half of our top 10 recruiting class and Who says there is a better coach out there just waiting for the MU job to open up.  Quit being a bunch of reactionary boomers and calm down. 

[#UnleashSean]

He had 6 assists in the first half.    He had 26 points at the 11:34 mark.    The rest of the game, he was listless, off on all of his shots.   I agree he was terrible.  I agree that his decision making in the last quarter of the game was lousy.    Why was he terrible?    There is a clear inflection point.

So...

1) If that is truly the case, and not just an excuse. He should have never been on the floor. At all. Period.

2) This is not the first time we've seen this from Howard.

[Warrior1969]

1. We fouled in a tie game to put the team on the line. And we did it on purpose.
2. We refused to change up how we defended the high ball screen for Baldwin giving him open 12-16 footers the entire second half over time. Maybe try something different and hedge or even rush the ball screen to get it out of his hands?  Instead we just threw up our hands.

This is completely on WOJO!!!!!   What the hell are you doing????

[NCMUFan]

Hey Markus, you don't have to shoot it.  You have four other teammates. 

[WhoaJoe2020]

9. If the refs call that foul on Baldwin, who knows.....

In the Fiserv I expect no call when Theo drops an elbow on Kamars head after a layup.

Markus was definitely not the same after that play.

So angry right now.

[Afroman]

Why does it seem like Marquette has more gut-punch losses than other teams over the years?

[RJax55]

I'm sure MU was gassed. They basically played six guys in an OT game. It would be nice to have a roster with 13 scholarship players.

Has never happened under Wojo. One way or another, MU almost always finishes the season with a short bench.

[Eldon]

He had 6 assists in the first half.    He had 26 points at the 11:34 mark.    The rest of the game, he was listless, off on all of his shots.   I agree he was terrible.  I agree that his decision making in the last quarter of the game was lousy.    Why was he terrible?    There is a clear inflection point.

[The Sultan]

Great game and not a bad loss at all....Wojo definitely signaled for Bailey to foul so that's on him and I hope he owns it but with how the game shook out it had zero effect on the result.

So frustrating to continue to see such a vocal minority of our fanbase cheer and pick him apart with every decision. We fire him and we probably lose half of our top 10 recruiting class and Who says there is a better coach out there just waiting for the MU job to open up.  Quit being a bunch of reactionary boomers and calm down. 

It was a terrible loss.

[tower912]

Why does it seem like Marquette has more gut-punch losses than other teams over the years?

Because they are your team and you feel them more.   

[We R Final Four]

Refs weren't a problem. It was a physical, consistently called game.

Weren't a problem.......not sure what that covers.

[muguru]

Why does it seem like Marquette has more gut-punch losses than other teams over the years?

Because they absolutely do...glad someone else feels/sees/thinks that as well. It's so damn maddening.

[pacearrow02]

It was a terrible loss.

If you say so

[Herman Cain]

We lost .  Victory has many fathers and defeat is an orphan.

Focus on next game now.

[dr77]

Totally agree with Its DJ Over.  What is the possible risk of any kind of defensive change for us in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd half?  Baldwin might score on us?  He's absolutely killing us from midrange, why not go zone for at least a possession or two? Markus was off, I get it, and we can talk about how he should or shouldn't be chuckin' it at the end, but one or two defensive stops in the last 5 minutes and its all different.  Frozen Wojo...

[Mr. Nielsen]

The post game show is ripping Howard.

Not really.

[Dish]

Probably.   And replaced with whom?

Last four minutes, I believe he was 1-4, with 2 turnovers. I get what you're saying, but at some point in the second half, Howard became a replacement level player.

[shoothoops]

1.  Hinkle is a house of horrors.   Kudos to the Butler crowd.   Certainly influenced some calls.   MU fans, take notice.
2.  After a few good games, Jayce wasn't great tonight.    Theo was a beast.   And played big minutes without fouling out.   But you have to secure defensive rebounds in overtime. 
3.  I mentioned it elsewhere, but for a NPOY candidate, Markus does not get a proportionate number of calls.    He made one basket after getting knocked to the ground on that lay up.   (no call)   And he looked uncomfortable after that.   Wasn't close on his shots.   Never went to the hoop again.   I hope there wasn't a concussion. 
4.  Baldwin is a winner.   It isn't like he was making uncontested shots.   Pick, roll, pull up.   Iso, spin, turnaround.  He went full hero ball and it worked.   
5.  Koby is terrible.   Until he does that last second 3 thing.   And those 3's in overtime thing.   Maybe he has been thinking too much.   
6.  Butler didn't foul when up 3.   Unless they wanted to and the player didn't execute.   
7.  Did Bailey lose track of the clock and score, or was fouling while tied with 20 seconds left part of a plan?   Would like to hear the answer to that.   
8.  Symir looked like a freshman on defense tonight.   Reminded me of Martin and Elliott a couple of years ago.
9.  The turning point of the game came when Markus had the ball literally wrestled away from him without a call and then made a lay up, took an elbow to the head and was knocked to the ground without a call.    Markus made one shot the rest of the way.    Meanwhile, it energized Baldwin.    And he took over.
10.  Need to quit missing lay ups.   Sacar.   Koby. 
11.  This one hurt.   Would have been a nice road win.    But MU doesn't suck, the season isn't over, and Wojo shouldn't be fired.    The team sure as crap didn't quit.   
11.  Greg would have been useful tonight.   
 

Baldwin shoots 85% from the line. He was mistakenly fouled on purpose because either Bailey or the bench made a big mistake. Butler made 27 of 31 Free Throws.

Free Throws and Baldwin were the difference for Butler. MU couldn't guard Baldwin nor the pick and roll in 2nd half.

Late game self destruction for MU in an otherwise good effort.

Theo struggles on D when pulled away from the hoop. Otherwise he can be a beast rim protector in the paint. He tried a few but limited ill advised 6-7 foot jump hooks.

Strong Sacar game and Bailey. Big shots late Kobe. Need string together two halves. Bailey's game is all about confidence. MU was shooting it well.

Staff has to recognize Markus situation (injury?) sooner. Others were scoring and shooting it well, need to get better shots late within the offense, value the ball.

Tough one to lose leading much of the game. Up 9 multiple times but couldn't extend it.

[TFlegend]

Markus is fun as hell when he is on fire.   But, as the last three years have shown, you won't win anything of significance with Markus as your best player.  Wojo + Markus....I've see this movie before and know how it ends. 

[Eldon]

Totally agree with Its DJ Over.  What is the possible risk of any kind of defensive change for us in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd half?  Baldwin might score on us?  He's absolutely killing us from midrange, why not go zone for at least a possession or two? Markus was off, I get it, and we can talk about how he should or shouldn't be chuckin' it at the end, but one or two defensive stops in the last 5 minutes and its all different.  Frozen Wojo...

Frojo?

[JakeBarnes]

The way he looked in the huddle  I was surprised he wasnt in concussion protocol

[tower912]

Baldwin shoots 85% from the line. He was mistakenly fouled on purpose because either Bailey or the bench made a big mistake. Butler made 27 of 31 Free Throws.

Free Throws and Baldwin were the difference for Butler. MU couldn't guard Baldwin nor the pick and roll in 2nd half.

Late game self destruction for MU in an otherwise good effort.

Theo struggles on D when pulled away from the hoop. Otherwise he can be a beast rim protector in the paint. He tried a few but limited ill advised 6-7 foot jump hooks.

Strong Sacar game and Bailey. Big shots late Kobe. Need string together two halves. Bailey's game is all about confidence. MU was shooting it well.

Staff has to recognize Markus situation (injury?) sooner. Others were scoring and shooting it well, need to get better shots late within the offense, value the ball.

Tough one to lose leading much of the game. Up 9 multiple times but couldn't extend it.

Yeah, forcing the ball to Theo wasn't the best offensive strategy.    Sacar and Bailey were solid.     They quit running the set that was getting Koby lay ups and Sacar corner 3's.    The one thing missing from Sacar's game is the willingness to consistently finish through contact.   

[tower912]

The way he looked in the huddle  I was surprised he wasnt in concussion protocol

I will be angrier at Wojo if he knowingly left Markus out there with a concussion than I ever would be over a loss.   

[curbina]

Great game and not a bad loss at all....Wojo definitely signaled for Bailey to foul so that's on him and I hope he owns it but with how the game shook out it had zero effect on the result.

So frustrating to continue to see such a vocal minority of our fanbase cheer and pick him apart with every decision. We fire him and we probably lose half of our top 10 recruiting class and Who says there is a better coach out there just waiting for the MU job to open up.  Quit being a bunch of reactionary boomers and calm down.

PaceArrow, it's amazing how clearly you are able to see into the future!

[AZMarqfan]

13, heck we can't even keep 9.

Why didn't Elliott play? 

The highlight of the game for me is Bailey took initiative on offense to create a few shots, like his fade-away.