Ed Morrow

[The Sultan]

sympathetic to what?  Anonymous posters attacking a kid on a basketball team?  They only deserve scorn and disrespect.

Lol. No attacking going on here. Just a honest reasoning for why he left.

But you be you Heisey. Keep being wrong.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

He's like a 2.0 college student trying to hit his minimum required character count with all the periods he uses.

It's unreadable.

[panda]

It's unreadable.

How some people still consider him the preeminent source of Marquette hoops is beyond me.

[Jables1604]

Well, you do fill the role.


There are also countless people here I never argue with....must not be bricks.

Those are the people who have you on ignore.

Posting during work hours? You on vacation AGAIN?

[Cheeks]

Those are the people who have you on ignore.

Posting during work hours? You on vacation AGAIN?

I don't argue wit 4ever, Rocket, CT, Herman, Real, etc etc, etc.   I may have at one time, but pretty rarely.

[We R Final Four]

People come to me and embrace me.

You have a plaque to prove it!

[Cheeks]

You have a plaque to prove it!

No, but great idea.

[Elonsmusk]

Yes, this is it.  People quit when they know it's over.  It's a convenient excuse to blame the coach.  Objectively he was not producing as much as he would have liked.  That is not the coaches fault. Still hoping the door is open for a return.

Go look at Ed's playing time during his time at MU.  It was ALL over the place.  He never played more than 26 minutes in a game at MU.  He played 10 games at Nebraska his sophomore year of 26+ and had 7 DNP's due to injury.

Ed wasn't going to be a superstar, but how could he showcase his full capabilities when vacillating generally between 0 to 16 minutes per game?  Wojo needs to work on dialing in a set rotations and roles.   Hard to be consistent when your experience and playing time as a player is anything but consistent.

[Pakuni]

Cheeks is in an argument over how much he argues.

[Cheeks]

Go look at Ed's playing time during his time at MU.  It was ALL over the place.  He never played more than 26 minutes in a game at MU.  He played 10 games at Nebraska his sophomore year of 26+ and had 7 DNP's due to injury.

Ed wasn't going to be a superstar, but how could he showcase his full capabilities when vacillating generally between 0 to 16 minutes per game?  Wojo needs to work on dialing in a set rotations and roles.   Hard to be consistent when your experience and playing time as a player is anything but consistent.

Injuries.  He wasn't able to bring it consistently.  Love the guy. Hope he comes back, seems like a good dude with a lot of big energy.  If it is over, that's a shame.  You play for a coach, you also play for your brothers, your school and yourself.  Hopefully it works out.

[Nukem2]

Injuries.  He wasn't able to bring it consistently.  Love the guy. Hope he comes back, seems like a good dude with a lot of big energy.  If it is over, that's a shame.  You play for a coach, you also play for your brothers, your school and yourself.  Hopefully it works out.

This.

[Cheeks]

Cheeks is in an argument over how much he argues.

I don't think you understand what argue is...having a nice, pleasant conversation...a discussion.

Hey, did you read the Players Trib PR "thing" today on Jimmy Butler?

[Its DJOver]

Go look at Ed's playing time during his time at MU.  It was ALL over the place.  He never played more than 26 minutes in a game at MU.  He played 10 games at Nebraska his sophomore year of 26+ and had 7 DNP's due to injury.

Ed wasn't going to be a superstar, but how could he showcase his full capabilities when vacillating generally between 0 to 16 minutes per game?  Wojo needs to work on dialing in a set rotations and roles.   Hard to be consistent when your experience and playing time as a player is anything but consistent.

Honest question; how many minutes do you think it takes to show that you have "it"?  If you can't show you have it in the 15 mpg you're getting, why would bumping that up to 20, 25, or 30 prove that you can be productive enough to earn those minutes?

Let's also keep in mind that minutes in game account for what, about 10% of time playing basketball as a student athlete, and the other 90% or so is behind closed doors when none of us can observe.  Unless you're a fly on the wall for every practice, you probably can't gauge the depth chart as well as the coaching staff.

Again, wish Ed well, hope he comes back, but the minute distribution this year has been pretty accurate to what's been deserved based on in-game performance IMO.

[MU82]

Go look at Ed's playing time during his time at MU.  It was ALL over the place.  He never played more than 26 minutes in a game at MU.  He played 10 games at Nebraska his sophomore year of 26+ and had 7 DNP's due to injury.

Ed wasn't going to be a superstar, but how could he showcase his full capabilities when vacillating generally between 0 to 16 minutes per game?  Wojo needs to work on dialing in a set rotations and roles.   Hard to be consistent when your experience and playing time as a player is anything but consistent.

How many minutes do you think Ed deserved? Please be specific. Cite 10 games in which Ed would have made a difference if only Wojo had used him more.

[Shooter McGavin]

Go look at Ed's playing time during his time at MU.  It was ALL over the place.  He never played more than 26 minutes in a game at MU.  He played 10 games at Nebraska his sophomore year of 26+ and had 7 DNP's due to injury.

Ed wasn't going to be a superstar, but how could he showcase his full capabilities when vacillating generally between 0 to 16 minutes per game?  Wojo needs to work on dialing in a set rotations and roles.   Hard to be consistent when your experience and playing time as a player is anything but consistent.

I understand your argument.  I don't  think it's correct though.  Wojo plays the hot hand as do many coaches.  He was just never hot.  If he demonstrated game in and game out as well as in practices that he was better, we might be having the exact same conversation about Theo leaving.  At some point you need to produce.  People would be questioning Wojos sanity if he kept playing ineffective players for prolonged periods.  This was a no win situation unless Morrow accepted his role and finished his career at MU with his head held high.

[Elonsmusk]

How many minutes do you think Ed deserved? Please be specific. Cite 10 games in which Ed would have made a difference if only Wojo had used him more.

I don't know. What I do know is that a totally erratic and inconsistent role isn't helpful to any basketball players production. I also know that getting into a game for a few 3-4 minute segments is NOT the way to extract a player's best.

As for the "hot hand" theory Shooter mentions above - at what time has Theo or Jayce had a "hot hand?"

[HutchwasClutch]

Honest question; how many minutes do you think it takes to show that you have "it"?  If you can't show you have it in the 15 mpg you're getting, why would bumping that up to 20, 25, or 30 prove that you can be productive enough to earn those minutes?

Again, wish Ed well, hope he comes back, but the minute distribution this year has been pretty accurate to what's been deserved based on in-game performance IMO.

Exactly correct.

[wadesworld]

I don't know. What I do know is that a totally erratic and inconsistent role isn't helpful to any basketball players production. I also know that getting into a game for a few 3-4 minute segments is NOT the way to extract a player's best.

As for the "hot hand" theory Shooter mentions above - at what time has Theo or Jayce had a "hot hand?"

There's literally a television timeout every 4 minutes in college basketball.  Not to mention the 4 timeouts per game each team gets and a halftime.  If a player can't figure out how to be productive in a 3-4 minute spurt, they aren't going to do it at all in college basketball.

[Silkk the Shaka]

WTF did I just read?

That wasn't research. Or a report. It was like a letter about an ex that you wish was still in your bed.

That was terrible. I don't know this doods guy y'all read and talk about. But this was terrible. I... I just don't even know.

Put the keyboard down man.

Honestly one of the strangest, creepiest things I've read recently. I had to stop a few paragraphs in because my skin was crawling. Godawful writing too. Simply dreadful.

[brewcity77]

Ed came out against Providence after the looooong two point attempt, which is a bad shot for anyone other than Markus or maybe Sacar and a terrible shot for Ed. I expect he didn't play against Seton Hall because he simply doesn't have the size to defend Gill or Obiagu. He was always going to have his minutes contingent on circumstance, just like Jayce has.

[GoldenDieners32]

Im close with one of the managers, ed reportedly quit the team

[HutchwasClutch]

Im close with one of the managers, ed reportedly quit the team

I believe it. Wojo's avoidance of any response when directly asked last night by Homer spoke volumes. My guess he's p'd off what happened.  If there was truly a personal reason, injury, illness, etc, he would have offered up something to mention support, concern, whatever, while not giving away any hints what the trouble is.

I don't blame Wojo a bit either if he is rankled over it.

[GoldenDieners32]

Still going to support Ed wherever he ends up next, talked to him once and he is a really nice dude

[Elonsmusk]

There's literally a television timeout every 4 minutes in college basketball.  Not to mention the 4 timeouts per game each team gets and a halftime.  If a player can't figure out how to be productive in a 3-4 minute spurt, they aren't going to do it at all in college basketball.

You are literally taking it too literally. 

If we measured guys production on the is team by 4 minute segments, think you'd find a lot of non factors out there other than Markus.

The over-arching point is that having significant volatility in your playing time and role game to game AND having to navigate a generally short leash in a game - that's tough sledding for any player.

Nonetheless, just another guy to quit mid-season on Wojo:  Burton, Dawson, Cohen, Cheatham, Traci, and now Ed. Nothing to see here.

[brewcity77]

Still going to support Ed wherever he ends up next, talked to him once and he is a really nice dude

Next is either back here or pro. He's exhausted his college eligibility unless he wants to finish the season at Marquette.