Theo John

[WarriorPride68]

Back to back games where he fouls out with 0 points, under 5 reb, in 14 min

What does he bring / is his problem?

• One game all year in double digit rebounds
• Fouled out 4 times this year
• 9 out of 16 games under 5 reb

[The Sultan]

Back to back games where he fouls out with 0 points, under 5 reb, in 14 min

What does he bring / is his problem?

• One game all year in double digit rebounds
• Fouled out 4 times this year
• 9 out of 16 games under 5 reb

IMO bringing Jayce in was a mistake.

[HutchwasClutch]

IMO bringing Jayce in was a mistake.

I don't agree, but even if there is some truth to that, then that's on John. Competition should bring out best in good players, not make them shrivel up.

[shoothoops]

Theo's potential value is what it was in the Villanova game, rim protector without the fouls as well as double digit rebounding. Both need to happen much more consistently.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Jayce has been our MVP big this year and its not even close, his defense n rebounding are vastly superior to theo n ed

[WhoaJoe2020]

I don't agree, but even if there is some truth to that, then that's on John. Competition should bring out best in good players, not make them shrivel up.

I never tried to play against monsters in division 1 with an injured hand. Grabbing rebounds might be more difficult, blocking shots could be painful, and scoring might be affected somewhat.
Never was a seven footer playing on a bum knee so I don't know how that affects  a guys overall play either.

Oddly enough I've dealt with both playing in city league and I can tell you for a fact.... It doesn't make you better.

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

Theo john is a mans body in a mostly boys game.  End of story.  He has beef with little skill to back it up.  Thats it

[HutchwasClutch]

I never tried to play against monsters in division 1 with an injured hand. Grabbing rebounds might be more difficult, blocking shots could be painful, and scoring might be affected somewhat.
Never was a seven footer playing on a bum knee so I don't know how that affects  a guys overall play either.

Oddly enough I've dealt with both playing in city league and I can tell you for a fact.... It doesn't make you better.

If he's that hurt, which is pure speculation, he should have taken a red shirt. Doesn't do any good to play through pain if you can't help your team at all.

[WarriorPride68]

Jayce has been our MVP big this year and its not even close, his defense n rebounding are vastly superior to theo n ed

Just seems weird Theo can't bundle more boards as a Off The Bus 1st Team All American

Theo: 76 rebounds / 301 minutes / 16 games
Jayce: 65 rebounds / 158 minutes / 13 games

[jonny09]

Jayce has been our MVP big this year and its not even close, his defense n rebounding are vastly superior to theo n ed

This is a very bad take.  Jayce is an atrocious defender.  I mean, he's terrible. 

[jonny09]

And now I've officially heard it all.  Jayce is the MVP of this team.  Let that sink in for a second.  Seriously.......Let it sink in.  🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[mu03eng]

If he's that hurt, which is pure speculation, he should have taken a red shirt. Doesn't do any good to play through pain if you can't help your team at all.

Not pure speculation, hes been interviewed about it, torn ligament in his wrist that will require off season surgery

[HutchwasClutch]

And now I've officially heard it all.  Jayce is the MVP of this team.  Let that sink in for a second.  Seriously.......Let it sink in.  🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

That was about to be my take. It was qualified with MU big, not team

[HutchwasClutch]

Not pure speculation, hes been interviewed about it, torn ligament in his wrist that will require off season surgery

Ok, I didn't see that. He should have redshirt. No good being a tough guy and playing through injury if you're a lousy player while doing so

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

He really is not that talented.   Hes a true nba body type with little else upside.   

[mileskishnish72]

Love Theo but right now he's worse than when he was a freshman. Injury, sminjury, I don't want to discount it, but he has not developed worth a darn. Again today it looked like he had a jam and took so long to gather himself he got a Spaulding sandwich. Not a lot of hope that things will be better next year.

[skianth16]

Love Theo but right now he's worse than when he was a freshman. Injury, sminjury, I don't want to discount it, but he has not developed worth a darn. Again today it looked like he had a jam and took so long to gather himself he got a Spaulding sandwich. Not a lot of hope that things will be better next year.

In my novice opinion, Theo seems to have developed some bad defensive habits that have really caught up to him. He's a pretty darn good rim protector, but I think beginning last year he started to almost bait guys into coming into the lane. And some of that baiting was intentionally sub-par defense, giving guys a chance to get to the rim where Theo would have a shot at a big block. And now I think some of that has become a little too common in his defense, and he's become used to playing out of position, which results in more fouls.

I do think the wrist injury is affecting his offensive game too. He was never a scoring machine, but he was at least good enough to hit open looks close to the rim and sometimes make a good move on his defender. I'm guessing the wrist is really slowing him down on offense.

[We R Final Four]

And now I've officially heard it all.  Jayce is the MVP of this team.  Let that sink in for a second.  Seriously.......Let it sink in.  🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Read it again....he didn't say that.

[rocket surgeon]

IMO bringing Jayce in was a mistake.

so theo's feeling are hurt? 

[The Sultan]

so theo's feeling are hurt? 

Actually the fact that he is injured changes my mind.

[StillWarriors]

I have to think the injury is really limiting him. He was at least a somewhat reliable one on one post player in the past. I doubt that skill just disappeared, but he clearly hasn't shown that this year. As far as the D, there is no question he sells out for the block a bit too often, and teams are attacking the weak side boards or throwing lobs repeatedly to exploit his aggressiveness in looking for blocks. Our getting beat off the dribble and failing to rotate defensively to help him are also significant contributing factors.

[Elonsmusk]

Theo is the best big on this team. Period. He gets called for some of the absolute weakest touch fouls I recall in recent memory. He can't catch a break with the refs. Not much he can do when he comes in game and within 90 seconds gets called for a tick tack fouls that doesn't get called 90% of the time.

Wojo needs to light the refs up on some of these calls and lobby on Theo's behalf before games and in game. Every game.

[jonny09]

Read it again....he didn't say that.

Yes, of big men.   Jayce and MVP should never be in the same sentence.  Ever.  This is a 7 footer who can't dunk.  I'm not even sure he can jump. 

[f/k/a humanlung]

Theo john is a mans body in a mostly boys game.  End of story.  He has beef with little skill to back it up.  Thats it

Wrong.  He is hurt.  And his development has not been...robust.  A common problem with teams over the last five years under Wojo.

[WhiteTrash]

This is a very bad take.  Jayce is an atrocious defender.  I mean, he's terrible.

I think you are right about Jayce AND Jayce is our best big man. Hate to say it.