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BM1090

Quote from: 94Warrior on January 11, 2020, 06:29:45 PM
McEwen has All-Big East talent.

This is too far. But yeah he's a high major player. The "mid-major talent" critics take it a bit too far, but outside of Markus and maybe our guys are high major role players or end of the bench guys.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: 1SE on January 11, 2020, 05:42:58 PM
He has one of the best scorers that has ever played college ball. And he couldn't get the ball into his hands in the last 10 minutes of this game. I dont think talent is the issue.
Markus was 1-6 in the last 10 minutes of the game.  I'd say he had the ball too much.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

IrwinFletcher

Quote from: 1SE on January 11, 2020, 05:23:49 PM
We tie it at 45. Willard brings in Nelson and other guy off the bench. Sits Powell. Start attacking the paint and fi ding their bigs. 11-0 run. Game over.

Wojo stand there like a deer in headlights - telling the team (but really himself) "dont panic".

Plenty of season left but if we miss the NCAA tournament with the nations leading scorer and all-American, with an experience heavy supporting roster - he absolutely needs to get the boot this year.

And yet we cut the game to 58-53 and Koby shooting 2 FTs.  Should have cut it to 3 and who knows what happens.  So Wojo "deer in the headlights" thingy isn't accurate.

So with 4 games played and 14 still to come, we can make the claim to get rid of Wojo?  Really?  Why not wait to play out the 14 games and then make the comment.  Its as if the team can't win 8 or 9 more games.

Mike Deane's Seat Belt

There is one high major player on this team period.  Everybody else could swap in and out of depaul or uwm and we wouldnt have any different outcome

BM1090

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on January 11, 2020, 06:33:00 PM
And yet we cut the game to 58-53 and Koby shooting 2 FTs.  Should have cut it to 3 and who knows what happens.  So Wojo "deer in the headlights" thingy isn't accurate.

So with 4 games played and 14 still to come, we can make the claim to get rid of Wojo?  Really?  Why not wait to play out the 14 games and then make the comment.  Its as if the team can't win 8 or 9 more games.

Right. And if we dont win 8 or 9 of them and make the tournament then most of us will be on the same page that it's time to pull the plug. Just let the season play out.

IrwinFletcher

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 11, 2020, 06:02:19 PM
Yup. SHU was at like 36% eFG in the second half. We had a string of like 4 straight trips that ended in wide open missed threes. Team created opportunities in the second half but just couldn't capitalize.

EXACTLY

muguru

Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on January 11, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
There is one high major player on this team period.  Everybody else could swap in and out of depaul or uwm and we wouldnt have any different outcome

I had said this all off season...this was my concern...without Sam and Joey, now you have guys like Cain and Greg needing to be major pieces. With Sam, they would have been role players where they are best suited.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

94Warrior

So, are those who are saying we have mid-major talent, also saying Wojo is a great coach?

He'd have to be to blow out Villanova and to compete at a high level, with mid major talent?

I'm confused.

4everwarriors

Even a broken clock is correct twice/day, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

WarriorFan

I really disagree on the "mid major talent" angle.

Seton Hall does have better talent / better team.  That's why they won.  Neither coach in this game is good enough to have an impact.  Both are horrible strategy and game coaches. 

I still believe MU talent level is top half of the BEAST and capable of beating anyone in the BEAST with the right game plan.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

muguru

Instead of Wojo always saying "we didn't eecute the game plan etc" I wish he would watch this from Roy Williams..I would have a lot more respect for Wojo if he ever accepted blame like Roy did today..

https://twitter.com/Kyle__Boone/status/1216165397533163520?s=20
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

mileskishnish72

I think we are on course for a Wed. game at the BET. That's not a totally bad thing because for years those games were almost our only BET wins.

We are in all probability stuck with Wojo (OMG, don't jeopardize next year's class!).
He's had enough rope, when is he going to deliver?

WarriorFan

Quote from: muguru on January 11, 2020, 07:43:38 PM
Instead of Wojo always saying "we didn't eecute the game plan etc" I wish he would watch this from Roy Williams..I would have a lot more respect for Wojo if he ever accepted blame like Roy did today..

https://twitter.com/Kyle__Boone/status/1216165397533163520?s=20

Less relevant when you would need to say it twice per week.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

Cheeks

Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on January 11, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
There is one high major player on this team period.  Everybody else could swap in and out of depaul or uwm and we wouldnt have any different outcome

You keep saying this, so with all of these non high major players we somehow knock off Nova, Purdue, etc...projected in the NCAA tournament....must be the coaching with all these bad players....right MD?
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

panda

Quote from: Cheeks on January 12, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
You keep saying this, so with all of these non high major players we somehow knock off Nova, Purdue, etc...projected in the NCAA tournament....must be the coaching with all these bad players....right MD?

Easy. We have one extraordinary player.

f/k/a humanlung

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 11, 2020, 06:02:06 PM
Agreed Goose, when a team looks lost most of the time it's because they are simply outclassed talent wise.  This is apparent at every level including grade school.   We have no consistent supporting talent at this point.  I feel sorry for Howard.

We do not have a talent issue.  We have a preparation, in-game adjustment, lack of player development and less than average Xs and Os issue.

Other than that, we're all good.

Cheeks

To summarize, we were outcoached by a team that was picked to win the league, playing on the road at said team while we were also missing our 6th man.

Got it.  Yup, that's the reason we lost..we were outcoached.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Class71

The pro Wojo's should not worry. Whatever, happens this year Wojo will be back next year. Excuse is the Hauser brothers sunk our top 10 team. Remember the administration and most of MU likes him. It will take more time and more loses before Wojo finds another home. He will not be canned. He will find a home at Maryland Eastern Shore, UCF or some other noteworthy basketball program.
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PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: Class71 on January 12, 2020, 07:54:50 PM
The pro Wojo's should not worry. Whatever, happens this year Wojo will be back next year. Excuse is the Hauser brothers sunk our top 10 team. Remember the administration and most of MU likes him. It will take more time and more loses before Wojo finds another home. He will not be canned. He will find a home at Maryland Eastern Shore, UCF or some other noteworthy basketball program.
You know who was a likable sonovabitch? Bob Dukiet. 

4everwarriors

Four a coach, he wuz won hell of a teem van driver, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Cheeks

Quote from: Class71 on January 12, 2020, 07:54:50 PM
The pro Wojo's should not worry. Whatever, happens this year Wojo will be back next year. Excuse is the Hauser brothers sunk our top 10 team. Remember the administration and most of MU likes him. It will take more time and more loses before Wojo finds another home. He will not be canned. He will find a home at Maryland Eastern Shore, UCF or some other noteworthy basketball program.

There is a difference between being Pro Wojo and not yet giving up.  I'm not 100% sure Wojo is the guy, but I'm definitely not convinced he isn't.  There's a difference.

Before a bunch of inane "how many years" do you need nonsense...he has made continual progress which is why he has rope with me.  If things were dire, he would not be getting the recruits he has. 

I'm also greatly concerned about the replacement, so calling is pro Wojo is not accurate.  The more accurate description is he hasn't done enough to be shown the door and based on MU's history, the guy walking in is far from a slam dunk. 

Huge difference in saying Pro Wojo.  I'm anti-starting over unless it is obvious we have to...which isn't the case at the moment.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Shooter McGavin

Cheeks,

What would make it obvious for you out of curiosity?  For me this year is big.  Fail to make the tournament and I'm on the other side of the fence.  Make the tournament and with the upcoming recruiting class he has more rope.

Cheeks

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 12, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
Cheeks,

What would make it obvious for you out of curiosity?  For me this year is big.  Fail to make the tournament and I'm on the other side of the fence.  Make the tournament and with the upcoming recruiting class he has more rope.

I have no doubt there are clowns here that even if we make the tournament want him gone if we don't win a tournament game.

If we stay relatively healthy I expect to make the tournament.  If that is the case, then I don't see how this is even a discussion.

I don't want to start over again, if he leaves...class is likely gone.  And we set the clock back again. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Small Orange Soda

Quote from: Cheeks on January 12, 2020, 08:41:05 PM
I don't want to start over again, if he leaves...class is likely gone.  And we set the clock back again.

Why the assumption Wojo is leaving an empty cupboard?  Guess the next guy is gonna get another three year pass.  At least we'll get to blame Wojo for it.

warriorfred

Quote from: AirPunch on January 11, 2020, 05:50:16 PM
Does MU have any players on the roster other than Howard that a top half power 6 conference team would even want?

Good question.  There are players on the current roster that could play on another power 6 conference team as role players for limited minutes.

They're good players and athletes, represent the university well, and work hard.  I don't mean to diminish that, but the overalll talent level is not enough for a NCAA tournament run.

On to year 7 . . .

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