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WhoaJoe2020

Is he worth showcasing every game just so Marquette gets some national press on a regular basis even at the expense of other players development and perhaps even wins?
Many seem to have already written off this coach this team and this season so should Wojo focus solely on getting Markus 30-40 shots a game for program recognition.
If you're not going to win the conference or make the tournament you might as well go all in on individual honors. If the fans can't enjoy a winning team at least they can enjoy a singular talent. I guess the question is would attendance and viewership be affected positively or negatively. Seeing as the season is already a bust that's all that really matters now. Right?

Disclaimer: All or part of this post may be taken in teal or not.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 03, 2020, 11:44:44 PM
Is he worth showcasing every game just so Marquette gets some national press on a regular basis even at the expense of other players development and perhaps even wins?
Many seem to have already written off this coach this team and this season so should Wojo focus solely on getting Markus 30-40 shots a game for program recognition.
If you're not going to win the conference or make the tournament you might as well go all in on individual honors. If the fans can't enjoy a winning team at least they can enjoy a singular talent. I guess the question is would attendance and viewership be affected positively or negatively. Seeing as the season is already a bust that's all that really matters now. Right?

Disclaimer: All or part of this post may be taken in teal or not.

Pass.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

Goose


4everwarriors

You can see the same thing at the Y on Saturday mornings, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.

The Sultan

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.

Dumb. When he drops 50 I don't care how many assists he has.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 04, 2020, 07:36:21 AM
Dumb. When he drops 50 I don't care how many assists he has.

You're not reading into the statement enough.  If Howard was averaging 10 assists he'd be much more of a dynamic player..... something you'd have to tune in and see all the time.  Howard doesn't drop 50 every game, if he did....then he's must see.  Otherwise he's a shooter, of which, you can find at other levels of CBB.  If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.

lawdog77

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.
I don't think you know how TV works.

WarriorFan

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.
I agree with this analysis.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

Uncle Rico

This fan base is a disgrace and deserves nothing if they can't appreciate Markus Howard. 
"In you they have treated father and mother with contempt; in you they have oppressed the foreigner and mistreated the fatherless and the widow."

Mr. Nielsen

Yes, Markus Howard is must see basketball. Period!
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

mubb3434

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 04, 2020, 10:47:10 AM
This fan base is a disgrace and deserves nothing if they can't appreciate Markus Howard.

He has to be the most under appreciated player in MU history. It's disgusting.

Cheeks

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
You're not reading into the statement enough.  If Howard was averaging 10 assists he'd be much more of a dynamic player..... something you'd have to tune in and see all the time.  Howard doesn't drop 50 every game, if he did....then he's must see.  Otherwise he's a shooter, of which, you can find at other levels of CBB.  If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.

My God are you out of your depth as if you had any.  The things you have said the last 72 hours just keep rolling.

Games are largely predetermined as part of a contract with broadcasters and the conference.  You'll notice in today's nationally televised game the promos run all week talked about MU with Markus Howard. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
You're not reading into the statement enough.  If Howard was averaging 10 assists he'd be much more of a dynamic player..... something you'd have to tune in and see all the time.  Howard doesn't drop 50 every game, if he did....then he's must see.  Otherwise he's a shooter, of which, you can find at other levels of CBB.  If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.

Dumb.

Herman Cain

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 04, 2020, 07:29:20 AM
You can see the same thing at the Y on Saturday mornings, hey?
Many years ago in the 70s I used to work out at Y . There was an old guy in there , a dentist by profession, who would control the gym for hours on end  . It was winners stay on the court . That cat , who was in his late 50s early 60s ,was must see TV. Had a nasty ass set shot and great court vision.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.
So the repeatedly demonstrated ability to put up 30, 40 and even 50 isn't enough to warrant fans tuning in ?
With all the variables in college basketball I have no idea what this teams overall success will be this season(actually I'm thinking low seed in the big dance) but the one constant I'm fairly confident in is Markus consistently putting on a show. And I'm going to enjoy it. I'm also hoping big time recruits enjoy watching the freedom Markus is afforded and consider coming to Marquette.

Class71

I enjoy Markus` offensive ability. He has unique skills and I am glad he joined MU.

I would not sacrifice wins for any one player. That is not a knock on Markus. I simply place more value on the MU program than on any individual player or coach.
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Silent Verbal

I don't understand this thread.  All of the games are already scheduled on the tv networks, so "showcasing" him won't make a bit of difference in that respect.  Markus is always the first, second, and third thing brought up during Marquette broadcasts, and when MU highlights are shown on FS1 and ESPN.  We already showcase him every single night—he's averaging nearly 30ppg.  If we make the tournament, when they announce our seed, they'll say, "Markus Howard and the Marquette Golden Eagles."  He was picked to be a pre-season first team All American.  What more do you want?  What more could there possibly be?

Wait a minute, are you the "Joe" from that old Peter Boyle movie from the early 70s, somehow transported through time to the year 2020?  You have a lot to learn, my son.

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 11:22:52 AM
Many years ago in the 70s I used to work out at Y . There was an old guy in there , a dentist by profession, who would control the gym for hours on end  . It was winners stay on the court . That cat , who was in his late 50s early 60s ,was must see TV. Had a nasty ass set shot and great court vision.
Are you seriously comparing a 50-60 year old guy from the 70s playing in the Y to Markus and D1 competition??

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: Silent Verbal on January 04, 2020, 11:52:47 AM
I don't understand this thread.  All of the games are already scheduled on the tv networks, so "showcasing" him won't make a bit of difference in that respect.  Markus is always the first, second, and third thing brought up during Marquette broadcasts, and when MU highlights are shown on FS1 and ESPN.  We already showcase him every single night—he's averaging nearly 30ppg.  If we make the tournament, when they announce our seed, they'll say, "Markus Howard and the Marquette Golden Eagles."  He was picked to be a pre-season first team All American.  What more do you want?  What more could there possibly be?

Wait a minute, are you the "Joe" from that old Peter Boyle movie from the early 70s, somehow transported through time to the year 2020?  You have a lot to learn, my son.
Yep........ You don't understand this thread.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 04, 2020, 11:01:45 AM
Yes, Markus Howard is must see basketball. Period!

Yep, sometimes you have to take your Glasses off to see what is happening.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

Herman Cain

Looking forward to a huge game today from Markus.

Fox Broadcast network.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
Looking forward to a huge game today from Markus.

Fox Broadcast network.
I'm looking for 25-30 pts, 6-8 assists, 5+ rebounds and a couple steals. Less points and more assists if/when Nova tries to take him out of the game.
Yeah I know, low expectations.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
Looking forward to a huge game today from Markus.

Fox Broadcast network.
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 01:17:19 PM
I'm looking for 25-30 pts, 6-8 assists, 5+ rebounds and a couple steals. Less points and more assists if/when Nova tries to take him out of the game.
Yeah I know, low expectations.
Pretty much on track for what I was thinking which was a big performance in general . Probably will end up with what your thinking specifically.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

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