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The Sultan

But Goose you know that Milwaukee's transition away from that has been long and hard.  digies is right that the transformation of Milwaukee hasn't lifted up enough people and hasn't touched the segregation that has always been a part of the city, but there has been a transformation.  Whenever I am back there, I am amazed what the city is now versus when I was in school.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jsglow

Basically what dgies said.  Milwaukee is a fine town nowadays having recovered nicely from the death of de-industrialization.  It took an entire generation.  That said, the economic benefit has not yet fully matriculated to the underclass that continues to suffer to this day for a variety of reasons.  Still, the influx (and retention) of young, upwardly mobile folks has her on the right track assuming competent civic leadership.  I, for one, am thrilled to see it in my lifetime having necessarily left in the early 80s.

As to the coach thing, yeah, apathy is my next (current?) phase without some real progress.  I didn't pay attention to the Bucks when they won 15 games either.  Nor do I know a single guy on the Bulls now. 

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 04, 2020, 07:12:07 AM
But Goose you know that Milwaukee's transition away from that has been long and hard.  digies is right that the transformation of Milwaukee hasn't lifted up enough people and hasn't touched the segregation that has always been a part of the city, but there has been a transformation.  Whenever I am back there, I am amazed what the city is now versus when I was in school.

Gentrification can be very deceitful. 

Goose

Fluff

In some ways MKE was a better town in the '70's and some ways better today. I am happy to see that after falling behind most major cities that real progress is being made. It took our leaders far too long to realize the need for change which caused much of the issues still needed to be addressed.


4everwarriors

As a lifetime resident of this city, downtown MKE and MKE in general are 100% improved over "the good old days." For those left behind in the resurgence, what have they personally done to improve their place in life?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

hairy worthen

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 04, 2020, 07:43:20 AM
As a lifetime resident of this city, downtown MKE and MKE in general are 100% improved over "the good old days." For those left behind in the resurgence, what have they personally done to improve their place in life?
Thank you. Spot on. There are obviously issues that need to be addressed. The city is still segregated and crime is way too high.

dgies9156

Ms. Dgies and I are thinking seriously about when we become empty nesters, retiring in Milwaukee -- part of the year. Our goal would be to buy a condo on the Lower East Side facing the Lake.

Thing about it gang. In the summer, Milwaukee is unbeatable. The Lakefront is fantastic; the baseball; the festivals; the bars and restaurants; and, the city is very livable and very affordable. Sorry Goose, having those tanning smells gone and far less yeast smell is a good thing!

Contrast it to its gargantuan neighbor where we now live part-year. While we love Chicago, the cost of living there is astronomical and the uncertainty over future costs ridiculous. If you want to go there, great, its 90 minutes away (at most) on Amtrak, or slightly longer than a commute from the northern Lake County suburbs now. People complain about crime in Milwaukee but Chicago is on a different planet.

Galway Eagle

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Quote from: dgies9156 on January 04, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
Ms. Dgies and I are thinking seriously about when we become empty nesters, retiring in Milwaukee -- part of the year. Our goal would be to buy a condo on the Lower East Side facing the Lake.

Thing about it gang. In the summer, Milwaukee is unbeatable. The Lakefront is fantastic; the baseball; the festivals; the bars and restaurants; and, the city is very livable and very affordable. Sorry Goose, having those tanning smells gone and far less yeast smell is a good thing!

Contrast it to its gargantuan neighbor where we now live part-year. While we love Chicago, the cost of living there is astronomical and the uncertainty over future costs ridiculous. If you want to go there, great, its 90 minutes away (at most) on Amtrak, or slightly longer than a commute from the northern Lake County suburbs now. People complain about crime in Milwaukee but Chicago is on a different planet.

Not to nitpick here dgles because I agree with 90% of what you said but how often do you find yourself frequenting Austin, Englewood, Hermosa etc where the crime is on a "different planet"? Like every city the vast majority is in specific areas and like moving to Milwaukee I'm sure you won't be spending much time on the North side either.

It's also worth noting Milwaukee's crime rate per capita is actually higher than Chicago's.
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hairy worthen

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 04, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
Ms. Dgies and I are thinking seriously about when we become empty nesters, retiring in Milwaukee -- part of the year. Our goal would be to buy a condo on the Lower East Side facing the Lake.

Thing about it gang. In the summer, Milwaukee is unbeatable. The Lakefront is fantastic; the baseball; the festivals; the bars and restaurants; and, the city is very livable and very affordable. Sorry Goose, having those tanning smells gone and far less yeast smell is a good thing!

Contrast it to its gargantuan neighbor where we now live part-year. While we love Chicago, the cost of living there is astronomical and the uncertainty over future costs ridiculous. If you want to go there, great, its 90 minutes away (at most) on Amtrak, or slightly longer than a commute from the northern Lake County suburbs now. People complain about crime in Milwaukee but Chicago is on a different planet.
Try living in downtown's of san Fran, LA or Seattle.

connie

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2020, 09:03:26 PM
I don't think Wojo himself would agree with this. I think he is working like a dog every day to fix it. Wojo is not a dumb guy. He knows the results are not good enough. (Yet?)
I agree with this 100%. I don't think Wojo is happy with the results he has obtained.  I think the defensive lapses/failures burn his a$$.  That said, The results are what they are, and they are not good enough.  When fans on a message board essentially agree that there is almost no on court catastrophe that will result in Wojo being gone because the administration has accepted this level of performance, that is not a positive for the future of the program.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

jsglow

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 04, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
Ms. Dgies and I are thinking seriously about when we become empty nesters, retiring in Milwaukee -- part of the year. Our goal would be to buy a condo on the Lower East Side facing the Lake.

Thing about it gang. In the summer, Milwaukee is unbeatable. The Lakefront is fantastic; the baseball; the festivals; the bars and restaurants; and, the city is very livable and very affordable. Sorry Goose, having those tanning smells gone and far less yeast smell is a good thing!

Contrast it to its gargantuan neighbor where we now live part-year. While we love Chicago, the cost of living there is astronomical and the uncertainty over future costs ridiculous. If you want to go there, great, its 90 minutes away (at most) on Amtrak, or slightly longer than a commute from the northern Lake County suburbs now. People complain about crime in Milwaukee but Chicago is on a different planet.

You already know that we're 'coming home' (although not in the city) after 35 years in Illinois.

Goose

4ever

I agree,  with one exception. The crime issue needs to be resolved to match the great improvements done in the city. I do feel that is a major black eye on the city and the one thing holding us back from bigger improvements in the future.

Galway Eagle

How are all of you not reported for politics yet?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

mu_hilltopper

I tried to clean this up, but .. just move along, people.

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