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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2019, 02:55:58 PM »
If Markus wins NPOY, does 0 end up in the rafters even if he has zero pro success?

Pro success ≠ prerequisite

I think a 2x AA with a NPOY oughta do it
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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2019, 06:47:07 PM »
If Markus wins NPOY, does 0 end up in the rafters even if he has zero pro success?

Why would his pro career have anything to do with whether his number is retired?
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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2019, 06:49:33 PM »
Why would his pro career have anything to do with whether his number is retired?

Seems Doc's did. Or perhaps it was his BOT times.
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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2019, 07:09:45 PM »
Seems Doc's did. Or perhaps it was his BOT times.
Doc was handicapped by a Head Coach who did not use his talents properly. That is one of the reasons why he left after junior year.   Nonetheless, Doc was a very central to the  achievements that the team did have during his time at MU.

Although in general ,  I would agree Doc was more a total career achievement guy, as opposed to one of the superstars of the past. 
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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2019, 08:03:12 PM »
When is the voting deadline for NPOY? Is it just regular season?

Or after conference tourney?


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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2019, 10:16:18 PM »
If Markus wins NPOY, does 0 end up in the rafters even if he has zero pro success?

I think he's already clinched a jersey retirement.

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2019, 10:22:43 PM »
Retiring Markus' jersey should be a total no-brainer. All-time leading scorer, will have his degree, will have played 4 years, great representative of the university and its mission.

Thankfully, we get to see him for 4+ more months in that jersey before it's retired!
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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2019, 08:11:35 AM »
Agreed on MH. Zero debate in my mind his number will be in the rafters.
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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2019, 08:15:31 AM »
Seems Doc's did. Or perhaps it was his BOT times.


IMHO, huge pro success can help a guy whose jersey might not otherwise have been retired. But a very clear candidate for retirement like Markus won't be hurt by a lack of it.

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2019, 09:12:15 AM »
I absolutely love Glenn Rivers. But, objectively, one could argue that his accomplishments as a Marquette player were not as "number-retireable" as guys like Diener, Hayward, Butler, Rand, Walton, Lackey, Chones, etc.

I mean, Diener outscored Glenn by nearly 500 points and was a major contributor to a Final Four team.

Undoubtedly, Glenn's accomplishments and contributions after he left Marquette got his number retired. I'm fine with it because he's one of my faves, but let's not pretend these things are only about MU hoops accomplishments.
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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2019, 11:30:51 AM »

IMHO, huge pro success can help a guy whose jersey might not otherwise have been retired. But a very clear candidate for retirement like Markus won't be hurt by a lack of it.

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2019, 11:40:13 AM »
Does MU retire numbers anymore?  Or just a jersey?

Speaking of which, does Rick get a black sweater hung on the FF rafters? As it is, Rick has won more MU games than any other coach.

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2019, 02:27:16 PM »
Does MU retire numbers anymore?  Or just a jersey?


Technically its the jersey, which means in theory someone could wear the number.

In practice, I think they try to avoid having someone wear the number. You may remember the Lazar Hayward - George Thompson fiasco.

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2019, 02:30:34 PM »
Technically its the jersey, which means in theory someone could wear the number.

In practice, I think they try to avoid having someone wear the number. You may remember the Lazar Hayward - George Thompson fiasco.

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2019, 02:31:16 PM »

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Re: NPOY Watch
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2019, 02:43:04 PM »
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