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Started by MuMark, November 08, 2019, 04:50:57 PM

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wadesworld

Penny is going to be in for a rude awakening. I'm sure he can get away with whatever he wants at Memphis because of who he is, but that's not how it's going to work with the NCAA. He's taking the approach of Arizona, LSU, Auburn, etc. but their wins will be vacated and Wiseman will be ruled ineligible before the season is over. If this was going to take years to settle sure, vacated wins don't matter so take your shot at a Natty. But this won't take years, Wiseman will be gone, and they'll be vacating wins they would've had even without him.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 07:55:28 PM
Sorry but no. It was a ridiculous ruling.

What's ridiculous about it? Coach who is campaigning to get the Memphis job, who is also a booster, pays to get the kid to move to Memphis and the kid spurns blue bloods to play for said coach and program (a program with a history of shadiness).

All purely a coincidence I'm sure.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

GoldenDieners32

So penny paid for him to move to play at his HS then gets him to come to Memphis. Looks like penny's time at Memphis coming to an end soon

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 08, 2019, 08:03:29 PM
What's ridiculous about it? Coach who is campaigning to get the Memphis job, who is also a booster, pays to get the kid to move to Memphis and the kid spurns blue bloods to play for said coach and program (a program with a history of shadiness).

All purely a coincidence I'm sure.


I have stated why. I think it is insane that he is considered a booster cause he played for them and gave a gift ten plus years ago. And the benefit was paid two years ago before he was their coach.

Not to mention the benefit had nothing at all to do with why he went to Memphis in the first place.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

cheebs09

Is Crean considered a booster to MU? Or do you actually have to pay the money?

Pakuni

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on November 08, 2019, 08:06:02 PM
So penny paid for him to move to play at his HS then gets him to come to Memphis. Looks like penny's time at Memphis coming to an end soon

So Penny knew in the summer of 2017 that Tubby Smith would last only two seasons at Memphis and he'd be hired to replace him?

Heck, if that's true Penny needs to quit wasting his time coaching and go make a billion dollars in Vegas.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:06:46 PM

I have stated why. I think it is insane that he is considered a booster cause he played for them and gave a gift ten plus years ago. And the benefit was paid two years ago before he was their coach.

Not to mention the benefit had nothing at all to do with why he went to Memphis in the first place.

Dipcrap. This wasn't ten years ago
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 08, 2019, 08:07:06 PM
Is Crean considered a booster to MU? Or do you actually have to pay the money?

Crean's considered a "silent donor".

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 08, 2019, 08:11:50 PM
Dipcrap. This wasn't ten years ago

His last gift to Memphis athletics was over ten years before he provided the benefit. This is according to what I read last hour. Do you have other info?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:06:46 PM

I have stated why. I think it is insane that he is considered a booster cause he played for them and gave a gift ten plus years ago. And the benefit was paid two years ago before he was their coach.

Not to mention the benefit had nothing at all to do with why he went to Memphis in the first place.

I don't see any way Wiseman ends up going to Memphis if he doesn't move to Memphis.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 08, 2019, 08:15:50 PM
Crean's considered a "silent donor".

That $100,000 soccer donation was quite the public announcement, assuming he'll cut that check any day now?

BallBoy

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 05:48:53 PM
Because he wasn't coach for the University of Memphis at the time. He paid to move him to Memphis to play for his high school team, which was not a violation (apparently) of Tennessee high school rules.

Penny was also an alumni and player for Memphis so he was a booster for the university.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 08, 2019, 08:20:03 PM
I don't see any way Wiseman ends up going to Memphis if he doesn't move to Memphis.

So?  Going to Memphis wasn't a condition for the benefit.

Of course if Memphis hires his dad to be a coach, pays him a salary, and moves him to Memphis, that's fine.

But providing him with $11,000 to move there two years before he becomes coach isn't.

Failed logic.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Pakuni

Quote from: BallBoy on November 08, 2019, 08:21:12 PM
Penny was also an alumni and player for Memphis so he was a booster for the university.

That doesn't make him a booster 

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on November 08, 2019, 08:20:24 PM
That $100,000 soccer donation was quite the public announcement, assuming he'll cut that check any day now?

Well, Jamil did wind up at MU eventually...the check must be delayed at the Penny Hardaway Bank branch. 

GoldenDieners32

Quote from: Pakuni on November 08, 2019, 08:11:31 PM
So Penny knew in the summer of 2017 that Tubby Smith would last only two seasons at Memphis and he'd be hired to replace him?

Heck, if that's true Penny needs to quit wasting his time coaching and go make a billion dollars in Vegas.
so you're saying it's just a coincidence that he got him to come to Memphis?

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:23:38 PM
So?  Going to Memphis wasn't a condition for the benefit.

Of course if Memphis hires his dad to be a coach, pays him a salary, and moves him to Memphis, that's fine.

But providing him with $11,000 to move there two years before he becomes coach isn't.

Failed logic.

So it had quite a bit to do with Wiseman going to Memphis. If he doesn't live in Memphis, which Penny paid to help happen, there's almost surely less than a 0.001% chance Wiseman goes to Memphis to play college basketball. It's just about a certainty that it's the only thing that made Memphis getting Wiseman a possibility.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 08, 2019, 08:32:58 PM
So it had quite a bit to do with Wiseman going to Memphis. If he doesn't live in Memphis, which Penny paid to help happen, there's almost surely less than a 0.001% chance Wiseman goes to Memphis to play college basketball. It's just about a certainty that it's the only thing that made Memphis getting Wiseman a possibility.

Ok I get that... but who cares?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:16:00 PM
His last gift to Memphis athletics was over ten years before he provided the benefit. This is according to what I read last hour. Do you have other info?

Yes. Do you know the definition of a booster?
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Nukem2

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:35:42 PM
Ok I get that... but who cares?
You do, but not the membership of the NCAA.

Jay Bee

REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Nukem2

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:53:17 PM

I get that. I don't agree with their rule.
So what.  That's what the membership agreed upon. Rules are rules.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 08, 2019, 08:53:17 PM

I get that. I don't agree with their rule.


I don't agree with every speed limit, but I am smart enough to know that if I violate it, I am subject to getting a ticket.

Pakuni

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on November 08, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
so you're saying it's just a coincidence that he got him to come to Memphis?

No, I'm saying it's a coincidence that the Memphis job came open two years after Wiseman moved to Memphis.