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rocky_warrior

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 07, 2020, 10:21:36 PM
Well coached teams pull it out on the road by staying focused on what they do best.

U Kidding Me?  Wright couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Silent Verbal

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 07, 2020, 10:37:15 PM
U Kidding Me?  Wright couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

Ah, so that's where the Wojo to Wright comparisons come from!

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: Silent Verbal on January 08, 2020, 03:17:13 PM
Ah, so that's where the Wojo to Wright comparisons come from!
Some people just don't, or refuse to get it.

Herman Cain

Ewing & Associates up 18-7 over The Johnnies 11:45 first
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Ewing & Associates blowing out The Johnnies 53-26 Halftime
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Billy Hoyle

and people here were saying the BE would get NINE teams into the Big Dance? LOL.

Six, at the most. Neither of these teams will be one of them.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 08, 2020, 06:31:07 PM
and people here were saying the BE would get NINE teams into the Big Dance? LOL.

Six, at the most. Neither of these teams will be one of them.

Could they get 9 teams into the post season?  #NIT

Herman Cain

Ewing & Associates route The Johnnies by 21 . Hoyas 14-1 against The Johnnies since 2004. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 08, 2020, 07:42:22 PM
Ewing & Associates route The Johnnies by 21 . Hoyas 14-1 against The Johnnies since 2004.

21-10, but it's pretty much the same, right?
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Herman Cain

The Hall up 23-16 Over X 7:49 first.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Big road win for The Hall over X tonight.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Cheeks

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 08, 2020, 06:31:07 PM
and people here were saying the BE would get NINE teams into the Big Dance? LOL.

Six, at the most. Neither of these teams will be one of them.

7 is possible
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Cheeks on January 08, 2020, 10:36:32 PM
7 is possible

Nova, Hall, X, Creighton, MU, Butler - locks to highly likely

Bubble: PC (work to do)

Highly Unlikely: DePaul, STJ, G-town
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Norm

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 08, 2020, 11:13:45 PM
Nova, Hall, X, Creighton, MU, Butler - locks to highly likely

Bubble: PC (work to do)

Highly Unlikely: DePaul, STJ, G-town

Not so sure Mu is a lock or highly likely, I'd have them on the bubble

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Norm on January 08, 2020, 11:16:25 PM
Not so sure Mu is a lock or highly likely, I'd have them on the bubble

I wouldn't even have MU as a lock for the NIT right now, but that's just me being conservative.  From what I saw last night, it's going to be difficult to win on the road.  There aren't any easy games for MU on the road this year.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 08, 2020, 11:13:45 PM
Nova, Hall, X, Creighton, MU, Butler - locks to highly likely

Bubble: PC (work to do)

Highly Unlikely: DePaul, STJ, G-town

We're 1-2 to start conference play and none of our non-con wins will be worth a damn at year's end.  That doesn't exactly scream "lock to highly likely" to me.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 08, 2020, 11:13:45 PM
Nova, Hall, X, Creighton, MU, Butler - locks to highly likely

Bubble: PC (work to do)

Highly Unlikely: DePaul, STJ, G-town

Providence has started nicely, but DePaul and St. John's are still well ahead of them. Better wins and lower quantity of bad losses.

CTWarrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 09, 2020, 01:32:25 PM
Providence has started nicely, but DePaul and St. John's are still well ahead of them. Better wins and lower quantity of bad losses.
As far as resumes are concerned, you are correct, but I think Providence will finish ahead of Georgetown, St Johns and DePaul at least in the Big East standings.

Based on what I've seen, I'd rate the teams Butler, Seton Hall, Villanova, Creighton, Marquette/Providence/Xavier, DePaul/Georgetown/St Johns.  But after Villanova the remaining seven aren't that far apart so standings could be anything, and frankly, Villanova nd Seton Hall aren't head and shoulders above the rest of the conference either.  Think there's going to be a lot of teams between 11-7 and 7-11 this year.
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BM1090

Quote from: CTWarrior on January 09, 2020, 01:42:08 PM
As far as resumes are concerned, you are correct, but I think Providence will finish ahead of Georgetown, St Johns and DePaul at least in the Big East standings.

Based on what I've seen, I'd rate the teams Butler, Seton Hall, Villanova, Creighton, Marquette/Providence/Xavier, DePaul/Georgetown/St Johns.  But after Villanova the remaining seven aren't that far apart so standings could be anything, and frankly, Villanova nd Seton Hall aren't head and shoulders above the rest of the conference either.  Think there's going to be a lot of teams between 11-7 and 7-11 this year.

Yep. Kenpom currently has MU projected for 9-9. 9-9 is projected to be T4 in the conference with Providence, behind Butler, SHU and Nova. The remaining 5 teams are projected 8-10 or worse.

Buffalo Gap

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 08, 2020, 11:18:47 PM
I wouldn't even have MU as a lock for the NIT right now, but that's just me being conservative.  From what I saw last night, it's going to be difficult to win on the road.  There aren't any easy games for MU on the road this year.

The fact that every night is a question mark or up for grabs says more about Wojo than supposed parity within the league. We should get an NIT bid, at least but March is a long ways off.

brewcity77

Quote from: CTWarrior on January 09, 2020, 01:42:08 PM
As far as resumes are concerned, you are correct, but I think Providence will finish ahead of Georgetown, St Johns and DePaul at least in the Big East standings.

Based on what I've seen, I'd rate the teams Butler, Seton Hall, Villanova, Creighton, Marquette/Providence/Xavier, DePaul/Georgetown/St Johns.  But after Villanova the remaining seven aren't that far apart so standings could be anything, and frankly, Villanova nd Seton Hall aren't head and shoulders above the rest of the conference either.  Think there's going to be a lot of teams between 11-7 and 7-11 this year.

Entirely possible, but if Providence is 10-8 that still only gets them to 17-14. By contrast, DePaul at 8-10 would get to 20-11 and St. John's at 8-10 would get to 19-12. Granted, record isn't all that matters, but both DePaul and St. John's have significantly better non-con wins already on the resume and victories against Iowa, Minnesota, Texas Tech, Arizona, and West Virginia look likely to only get better as the season goes on.

Providence has a really big uphill climb. Yes, there are quality wins to be had, but they have tied a serious anchor around their leg with their non-con losses and their best win (Texas) is pretty mediocre.

CTWarrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 09, 2020, 02:37:34 PM
Entirely possible, but if Providence is 10-8 that still only gets them to 17-14. By contrast, DePaul at 8-10 would get to 20-11 and St. John's at 8-10 would get to 19-12. Granted, record isn't all that matters, but both DePaul and St. John's have significantly better non-con wins already on the resume and victories against Iowa, Minnesota, Texas Tech, Arizona, and West Virginia look likely to only get better as the season goes on.

Providence has a really big uphill climb. Yes, there are quality wins to be had, but they have tied a serious anchor around their leg with their non-con losses and their best win (Texas) is pretty mediocre.
Yup, you are right.  I was referring strictly to the Big East standings, not the NCAA tournament chances.  This was probably the wrong thread for that post.
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