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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #925 on: December 21, 2019, 11:27:53 PM »
Big East Conference had a huge day the first Saturday in December as well.
December 7th

Marquette over Kansas State
Georgetown over SMU
Butler over Florida
Xavier over Cincinnati
St. John's over West Virginia
Creighton over Nebraska
Villanova over St. Joe's

7-0 again today. 6 were real games. 4 were underdogs.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2019, 11:34:01 PM by Mr. Nielsen »
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #926 on: December 22, 2019, 08:25:47 AM »
Great day for the BE! Add MU's Friday win and we have an 8-0 weekend.

With only 5 remaining non conference ( 4 cupcakes + TCU ) games before the start of BE conference play on 12/30, what are your (updated) conference predictions for Marquette in particular and the BE in general after seeing the teams in action?

I have great respect for Brew's analysis, so I am especially interested in knowing if his appraisals of the teams has changed significantly. 
« Last Edit: December 22, 2019, 09:32:21 AM by Scoop Snoop »
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #927 on: December 22, 2019, 08:29:07 AM »
Great day for the BE! Add MU's Friday win and we have an 8-0 weekend.

With only 5 remaining non conference ( all cupcakes) games before the start of BE conference play on 12/30, what are your (updated) conference predictions for Marquette in particular and the BE in general after seeing the teams in action?

I have great respect for Brew's analysis, so I am especially interested in knowing if his appraisals of the teams has changed significantly.

10 way tie with everyone having a 9-9 record.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #928 on: December 22, 2019, 09:23:45 AM »
I’d take 10-8 in a heart beat.  All teams that make the tournament from this conference will be battle tested and ready to do some damage in March.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #929 on: December 22, 2019, 09:35:46 AM »

We may not have the elite teams, but there is no easy out.  Going to be an absolute war.

After yesterday, I'm starting to think that there aren't any elite teams in any conference. Villanova knocked off #1 and will keep improving, Butler's already top ten, and I think we'll keep improving. It might be hard for any team in our league to get a 1 seed, which is unfortunate for matchups in the tournament, but I also don't think there will be much drop off from 1 to 3 seeds.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #930 on: December 22, 2019, 10:01:23 AM »
After yesterday, I'm starting to think that there aren't any elite teams in any conference. Villanova knocked off #1 and will keep improving, Butler's already top ten, and I think we'll keep improving. It might be hard for any team in our league to get a 1 seed, which is unfortunate for matchups in the tournament, but I also don't think there will be much drop off from 1 to 3 seeds.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #931 on: December 22, 2019, 10:39:50 AM »
Big East was pretty deep last season.

May have been pretty deep, but the league was weak last year, evidenced by both KenPom end of year ratings - a distant 5th - and zero NCAA tourney success.

Think the league will do better this year in NCAA, and CBB is slightly down this year over last.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #932 on: December 22, 2019, 12:13:37 PM »
Nova has two non con games left with U Conn and Temple later this year . If they can win those that will be helpful to the cause.

X needs to beat TCU today

All remaining cupcakes games need to be won big

Overall goal is to get as many Big East teams in tournament for money making purposes. The more The Big East wins in the tournament the more money made.

More quality teams in league increases the chances for better seeds .

Visibility of having lots of teams in bracket also helps recruiting etc

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #933 on: December 22, 2019, 12:30:39 PM »
Imagine believing the Big East isn’t a top-5 conference in the country.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #934 on: December 22, 2019, 12:42:40 PM »
Imagine believing the Big East isn’t a top-5 conference in the country.

Sad,y there are posters on this board that think this, let alone on other boards which I would expect.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #935 on: December 22, 2019, 01:01:06 PM »
May have been pretty deep, but the league was weak last year, evidenced by both KenPom end of year ratings - a distant 5th - and zero NCAA tourney success.

Think the league will do better this year in NCAA, and CBB is slightly down this year over last.

Of course it is how one wants to look at it. Weak it was not! Having 9 of 10 teams in the ncaa/nit is pretty excellent in a so-called down year.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #936 on: December 22, 2019, 01:02:40 PM »
There is an argument for 7 teams to be ranked tomorrow. And one the three that shouldn’t be ranked opened the year in the top 10. Crazy good conference. Would love to see 8/10 teams in the dance.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #937 on: December 22, 2019, 01:20:54 PM »
Nova has two non con games left with U Conn and Temple later this year . If they can win those that will be helpful to the cause.

X needs to beat TCU today

All remaining cupcakes games need to be won big

Overall goal is to get as many Big East teams in tournament for money making purposes. The more The Big East wins in the tournament the more money made.

More quality teams in league increases the chances for better seeds .

Visibility of having lots of teams in bracket also helps recruiting etc
What does this even mean?? Big east is quite good and I don't see that changing. Adding Uconn was a near grand slam imo. The conference will be fine. Do we really need to worry about the conference getting teams in so much? what's gonna happen ?

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #938 on: December 22, 2019, 01:41:04 PM »
What does this even mean?? Big east is quite good and I don't see that changing. Adding Uconn was a near grand slam imo. The conference will be fine. Do we really need to worry about the conference getting teams in so much? what's gonna happen ?

It's something like 1.7 million for your conference for each game played. So $170,000 to each school. Not program changing but a good bit of coin.
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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #939 on: December 22, 2019, 01:45:56 PM »
What does this even mean?? Big east is quite good and I don't see that changing. Adding Uconn was a near grand slam imo. The conference will be fine. Do we really need to worry about the conference getting teams in so much? what's gonna happen ?
The issue is not is The Big East good enough etc. This is strictly a money issue.

Each team in the conference that makes the NCAA gets a  unit share of the NCAA bonus poo for the next six years. For each game won the team gets another unit  share of the bonus pool. The NCAA  unit shares last year were $280,000.  So for teams last year the total payout was 1.68 million for each game played. 

The units are spread across the teams in the conference, whether they make the tournament or not.

So the monetary is incentive is very high to have as many teams in the tournament and doing well. So by doing well our teams get higher seeding, which hopefully lead to more wins in the early rounds which means more cash in the till.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #940 on: December 22, 2019, 02:17:54 PM »
The issue is not is The Big East good enough etc. This is strictly a money issue.

Each team in the conference that makes the NCAA gets a  unit share of the NCAA bonus poo for the next six years. For each game won the team gets another unit  share of the bonus pool. The NCAA  unit shares last year were $280,000.  So for teams last year the total payout was 1.68 million for each game played. 

The units are spread across the teams in the conference, whether they make the tournament or not.

So the monetary is incentive is very high to have as many teams in the tournament and doing well. So by doing well our teams get higher seeding, which hopefully lead to more wins in the early rounds which means more cash in the till.
Thanks for the info

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #941 on: December 22, 2019, 03:22:35 PM »
Is it crazy to think 9 of 10 BE schools are currently in top 40 best teams???

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #942 on: December 22, 2019, 04:08:41 PM »
Is it crazy to think 9 of 10 BE schools are currently in top 40 best teams???

Haslametrics has 9/10 BEast teams getting a bid with current resumes

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #943 on: December 22, 2019, 04:18:14 PM »
Seton Hall having a Maryland hangover......down 24-19 to good old Prairie View AM with a minute to go in the first half.

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« Reply #944 on: December 22, 2019, 04:40:29 PM »
X up 34 -22  at TCU 4:07 left first

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« Reply #945 on: December 22, 2019, 05:39:20 PM »
Seton Hall comes alive second half and wins by 20

X up 56-39 at TCU 7:44 left second
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« Reply #946 on: December 22, 2019, 05:47:05 PM »
Pomeroy puts the last few days into perspective

https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/1208895373852332034?s=21

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #947 on: December 22, 2019, 06:06:26 PM »
10 way tie with everyone having a 9-9 record.

Do they all make the tourney?

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #948 on: December 22, 2019, 06:07:00 PM »
Sad,y there are posters on this board that think this, let alone on other boards which I would expect.

Eh.  No one with any sort of opinion worth paying attention to.

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Re: Big East Non Conference Results
« Reply #949 on: December 22, 2019, 06:36:41 PM »
Do they all make the tourney?

Providence would miss out. St John's & Seton Hall would be on the bubble. The rest would be safely in.
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