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#UnleashSean

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 29, 2019, 03:12:46 PM
In related news, Barry Alvarez came out with a statement today that Wisconsin will not be playing against any teams involved in the NCAA. That includes the annual red/white scrimmages.

Golden statement.

wadesworld


Uncle Rico

Quote from: Cheeks on October 29, 2019, 02:59:01 PM
It's not a matter of folding, it's a matter of trying to control the outcome before the Rico's and Walkers of the world destroy it completely.

Lol
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: Galway Eagle on October 29, 2019, 03:20:10 PM
How's it hypocritical for Dabo? Unless he took payments when he was at Bama then he utilized the experience and connections offered by playing major college sports to land a degree and job then advance in said career. That's not hypocritical at all.

He doesn't want college sports to be the "same" as pro sports. But he has been making NFL money on the backs of his "student/athletes" for years.

He wants access to infinite millions for his personal bank account. He does not think his players should have access to anything above a scholarship -- even though scholarship non-athletes at Clemson have that access.

I happen to think that's hypocritical. It's OK if you don't.

Important: I don't begrudge Dabo his millions. As you said, he earned them. The nit I'm picking is that he wants to deny the athletes (who made it possible for him to be rich) the right to market their own likenesses.

Fortunately for the athletes, he will have no say in it, and it's gonna happen.

Let him leave. There's always another coach in the wings.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on October 29, 2019, 03:01:13 PM


I am interested to see where this all goes, how a plan is implemented, etc. Everybody's still throwing warmup pitches at this point -- it's not even the first inning.

I don't know how it will end, and neither does anybody else here. The one thing I would bet on is that it will not "ruin" college sports, just as Title IX and so many other groundbreaking changes did not. Life is all about change.


Agreed. I feel its going to come down to whether or not the NCAA is willing to give up a large enough piece of the pie. If not state and/or federal legislation will mandate it. What the heck is the "college model" anyway?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 29, 2019, 03:47:55 PM
Agreed. I feel its going to come down to whether or not the NCAA is willing to give up a large enough piece of the pie. If not state and/or federal legislation will mandate it. What the heck is the "college model" anyway?

The college model is a phrase coined to soothe the soul of old, White people
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#UnleashSean

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2019, 03:52:00 PM
The college model is a phrase coined to soothe the soul of old, White people

See: chicos

Jay Bee

It's all stupid and will be interesting to see what "the rules" will be

I do pray, though, for NCAA FB & 2K college hoops returning.
The portal is NOT closed.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: #UnleashCain on October 29, 2019, 03:53:52 PM
See: chicos

They can't say "Olympic Model" anymore, so this is the the new phrase to use
Guster is for Lovers

muguru

You can already feel the "slimey" people licking their chops over this one...Example: Kentucky BB player is said to be a one and done, widely known. End of the season and declaration date comes...and shockingly, he doesn't declare. people are stunned. Find out a few weeks later it's announced he signed a NIL deal with Bob car dealership for 100K. Couldn't be simply because Bob, who happens to be a HUGE UK fan, did that just to get said player to stay at UK one more year, right?? SLIMEY. The NCAA would certainly think that was the case.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2019, 04:02:09 PM
They can't say "Olympic Model" anymore, so this is the the new phrase to use

What are they supposed to call it? Calling it the collegiate model is fine if anything for the sake of brevity.

Johnny B

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 04:18:54 PM
You can already feel the "slimey" people licking their chops over this one...Example: Kentucky BB player is said to be a one and done, widely known. End of the season and declaration date comes...and shockingly, he doesn't declare. people are stunned. Find out a few weeks later it's announced he signed a NIL deal with Bob car dealership for 100K. Couldn't be simply because Bob, who happens to be a HUGE UK fan, did that just to get said player to stay at UK one more year, right?? SLIMEY. The NCAA would certainly think that was the case.
If he's one and done good then why stay for 100k? Head to nba for millions in year 1

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 04:18:54 PM
You can already feel the "slimey" people licking their chops over this one...Example: Kentucky BB player is said to be a one and done, widely known. End of the season and declaration date comes...and shockingly, he doesn't declare. people are stunned. Find out a few weeks later it's announced he signed a NIL deal with Bob car dealership for 100K. Couldn't be simply because Bob, who happens to be a HUGE UK fan, did that just to get said player to stay at UK one more year, right?? SLIMEY. The NCAA would certainly think that was the case.

I have zero problems with that scenario.

Pakuni

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 04:18:54 PM
You can already feel the "slimey" people licking their chops over this one...Example: Kentucky BB player is said to be a one and done, widely known. End of the season and declaration date comes...and shockingly, he doesn't declare. people are stunned. Find out a few weeks later it's announced he signed a NIL deal with Bob car dealership for 100K. Couldn't be simply because Bob, who happens to be a HUGE UK fan, did that just to get said player to stay at UK one more year, right?? SLIMEY. The NCAA would certainly think that was the case.

You really believe kids are going to pass on NBA money and prolong the time to their second contract (when the real money arrives) to do a $100K deal with a Kentucky car dealership?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 29, 2019, 04:19:22 PM
What are they supposed to call it? Calling it the collegiate model is fine if anything for the sake of brevity.

For sure, it's a simple phrase.  Easier to remember that's the model name used by people who want to deny student athletes the ability to earn off their likeness
Guster is for Lovers

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
For sure, it's a simple phrase.  Easier to remember that's the model name used by OLD WHITE people who want to deny student athletes the ability to earn off their likeness

You forgot about their age and race this time.

Benny B

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 04:18:54 PM
You can already feel the "slimey" people licking their chops over this one...Example: Kentucky BB player is said to be a one and done, widely known. End of the season and declaration date comes...and shockingly, he doesn't declare. people are stunned. Find out a few weeks later it's announced he signed a NIL deal with Bob car dealership for 100K. Couldn't be simply because Bob, who happens to be a HUGE UK fan, did that just to get said player to stay at UK one more year, right?? SLIMEY. The NCAA would certainly think that was the case.

Again, I would be surprised if the NCAA doesn't just ban student-athletes from taking NIL money from boosters but also expands the definition of "booster."
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

muguru

Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 29, 2019, 04:21:27 PM
I have zero problems with that scenario.

Of course you don't...but this is one example where tons of schools with vast resources will have advantages over other schools with this stuff.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: Benny B on October 29, 2019, 04:27:58 PM
Again, I would be surprised if the NCAA doesn't just ban student-athletes from taking NIL money from boosters but also expands the definition of "booster."

That would backfire IMO. Boosters would stop donating to the University to get off the booster list. They'd be smarter to just embrace the fact that the players have value to these wealthy super fans.

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: muguru on October 29, 2019, 04:31:52 PM
Of course you don't...but this is one example where tons of schools with vast resources will have advantages over other schools with this stuff.

So exactly what it's like now? The horror.

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

GooooMarquette

#71
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 29, 2019, 01:38:07 PM
Marquette is a smaller school?

Is that news to you? Nearly every flagship state university has a larger fanbase (including all the K-Mart fans of state schools), and lots of other high majors do as well. At the very least, MU has a substantially shorter list of alums than nearly EVERY P5 football school.

If we have to fight those schools for recruits based on t-shirt sales, we're gonna lose.

muguru

Outstanding Senator Burr! Guess not everyone in government is for it!

Richard Burr
@SenatorBurr
If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school, their scholarships should be treated like income. I'll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to "cash in" to income taxes.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Benny B

Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 29, 2019, 04:33:03 PM
That would backfire IMO. Boosters would stop donating to the University to get off the booster list. They'd be smarter to just embrace the fact that the players have value to these wealthy super fans.

Go look up the current definition of "booster" and then come back and tell us what's wrong with your argument.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Boozemon Barro

Quote from: Benny B on October 29, 2019, 04:50:50 PM
Go look up the current definition of "booster" and then come back and tell us what's wrong with your argument.
How about you just tell us to inform the entire thread.

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