MU student arrested for Snapchat of rifle magazine, threat

[Pakuni]

he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse.

The law doesn't require one to have immediate access to a weapon - something neither of us know, in the case - in order for a threat to be criminal.
And I'm pretty sure no one here has threatened anything worse than buying Arby's, but maybe I'm forgetting all the times Scoopers have threatened to murder one another.

[Cheeks]

The law doesn't require one to have immediate access to a weapon - something neither of us know, in the case - in order for a threat to be criminal.
And I'm pretty sure no one here has threatened anything worse than buying Arby's, but maybe I'm forgetting all the times Scoopers have threatened to murder one another.

Worse than Arby's, several of us have been told we would be punched or "taken out", whatever that means....but I'm sure that was deserved.... ...but you know...stuff happens.

[Cheeks]

I don't know exactly what the kid said in his Snapchat - as i ssuepct is the case for everyone here -  but if he did  make some sort of verbal or written threat, then there's absolutely something for the DA to get involved in.

And if you (and Cheeks) aren't mocking, why all the talk of finger guns?

I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn't mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

I don't know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don't know, which is why I said let's wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind.  Now, eventually more info will come...but as a reminder, kids have been arrested and suspended even for finger gunning as a joke...not mocking, facts. 

Police are in a tough spot on this.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/6-year-old-fingers-shape-of-gun-suspended_n_6813864

[Pakuni]

I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn't mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

Yes, I realize that this is a fact. And rather than positing it as an understandable overreaction and abundance of caution in an environment in which children are all-too-often gunned down in their schools, you mocked it. The only surprise here is that you didn't offer it up as proof of how kids are soft today. Nothing toughens up the young ones quite like threats of being shot.

I don't know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don't know, which is why I said let's wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind. 

Jockey's remarks about "destroying" the kid were over the top, but we both know he wasn't advocating for the death penalty or life imprisonment, with or without a trial. Your hyperbole is every bit as bad as his.
And if anyone here has threatened to punch or take you out, that's terrible and I hope you reported it to the mods.

[Cheeks]

Yes, I realize that this is a fact. And rather than positing it as an understandable overreaction and abundance of caution in an environment in which children are all-too-often gunned down in their schools, you mocked it. The only surprise here is that you didn't offer it up as proof of how kids are soft today. Nothing toughens up the young ones quite like threats of being shot.

Jockey's remarks about "destroying" the kid were over the top, but we both know he wasn't advocating for the death penalty or life imprisonment, with or without a trial. Your hyperbole is every bit as bad as his.
And if anyone here has threatened to punch or take you out, that's terrible and I hope you reported it to the mods.

Really...how do you DESTROY someone then?  Life imprisonment is one way.  Death penalty is another.  Glad to see after many days you or anyone FINALLY call him out on it, the only one here to do so on your side while the others just go off to their corners to attack folks not on their side.  Classic.

Sorry, I didn't mock this incident.  I stated facts. Police are in a tough spot, and oh by the way before we rush to judgment there have been arrests for things as silly as finger guns.  Is that the case here?  I don't know, but I'm also not advocating DESTROYING some one's life either without any due process, which seems of late to be something certain people no longer give a damn about.  Weird.

[wadesworld]

I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn't mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

I don't know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don't know, which is why I said let's wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind.  Now, eventually more info will come...but as a reminder, kids have been arrested and suspended even for finger gunning as a joke...not mocking, facts. 

Police are in a tough spot on this.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/6-year-old-fingers-shape-of-gun-suspended_n_6813864

So a kid was suspended for 3 days for pointing a finger gun at another kid's head and saying "Boom?" Totally good with that. He was "goofing around" but, according to CNN, the kid he pointed at didn't even see it. When I'm "goofing around" with someone it's usually as an interaction with them, not something they don't even realize happened at all.

Actions have consequences. And for good reason.

he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse. 

So written bomb threats or "anonymous calls" into a school office or whatever with threats of violence, hit lists, etc. leave nothing to be prosecuted? Aren't threatening in any way? I mean, unless we're seeing assault rifles in the bathroom a hit list is posted in or pipe bombs on security camera around the pay phone the call was made there's no physical threat there...

[Galway Eagle]

Worse than Arby's, several of us have been told we would be punched or "taken out", whatever that means....but I'm sure that was deserved.... ...but you know...stuff happens.

Deserved.

But that being said there's this in the student code of conduct: "Physically or verbally abusing or threatening any person, on or off the campus, including especially such persons as student staff and Marquette University Police Department officers."

There's also the fact that threatening someone whether there's a weapon or not is illegal. So by that very nature there is something for the DA to get involved with.

[jsglow]

I haven't read the thread but the student has been charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct.  My instinct: that feels about right.

[Cheeks]

So a kid was suspended for 3 days for pointing a finger gun at another kid's head and saying "Boom?" Totally good with that. He was "goofing around" but, according to CNN, the kid he pointed at didn't even see it. When I'm "goofing around" with someone it's usually as an interaction with them, not something they don't even realize happened at all.

Actions have consequences. And for good reason.

So written bomb threats or "anonymous calls" into a school office or whatever with threats of violence, hit lists, etc. leave nothing to be prosecuted? Aren't threatening in any way? I mean, unless we're seeing assault rifles in the bathroom a hit list is posted in or pipe bombs on security camera around the pay phone the call was made there's no physical threat there...

Sorry Wades, but a 10 year kid playing video games most of his life, watching tv, etc jokingly using a finger gun...the horror.

[The Sultan]

he didn't have anything to threaten people with-no weapons, no live ammo.  threaten all you want-let MU handle it and keep an eye on him.  i've seen more threats on this board that could probably be deemed worse. 

It depends on what he said along with the picture. Unless you know what was said, it's probably best to wait until the DA addresses it.

[Pakuni]

Really...how do you DESTROY someone then? 
Life imprisonment is one way.  Death penalty is another.

Dude, you regularly claim peoples' lives are "destroyed" when they're kicked out of school after credible allegations. You claimed a certain SC nominee's life was destroyed because someone accused him of a crime.
But now you want to argue that "destroy" can only mean life imprisonment or execution?
Clearly jockey meant he should be expelled, right?

And I don't believe your denial about the mocking, but I don't expect you'll ever admit to it, so let's drop it.

[Pakuni]

Sorry Wades, but a 10 year kid playing video games most of his life, watching tv, etc jokingly using a finger gun...the horror.

But you're not mocking ...

[Cheeks]

Deserved.

But that being said there's this in the student code of conduct: "Physically or verbally abusing or threatening any person, on or off the campus, including especially such persons as student staff and Marquette University Police Department officers."

There's also the fact that threatening someone whether there's a weapon or not is illegal. So by that very nature there is something for the DA to get involved with.

LOL.  Ah yes.  Deserved because that's where we are at. 

So next time a MU athlete pushes another student athlete from another school during an event the police will be called, right?  Aren't they threatening them?  All kinds of stuff in the student code of conduct that seems real squishy. 

I'll continue to wait for more information rather than rush to judgment on this case as the police are in a tough spot, in the meantime a reminder that there has also been a massive over rotation on a ton of things in life be it comedy, social posts, not properly call someone by the right gender when they didn't even know that was a request, to finger gunning, and everything in between.  Progress.  Do I blame the cops or school in this incident...I DO NOT. 

I'm going to fire up my pick up truck right now, head to Arby's and apparently rape Mother Earth in the process for eating meat and putting out carbon emissions...my dog is going with me and she may fart, putting methane into the environment...but the bitch is good (we still allowed to say bitch)?  I may finger gun the plastic (oil is bad) frisbee I throw her as we play catch...hopefully no one calls the police.

[Galway Eagle]

I will answer for me...students are literally suspended today for finger guns and goofing around.  Fact.  It has happened in multiple states the last few years.  That isn't mocking, that is real.  Happy to provide articles of said arrests and suspensions.

I don't know what happened in this case, was it a kid just joking around?  Was it a serious threat? I don't know, which is why I said let's wait for more information while apparently the Canadians want people killed or put away for life without a trial of any kind.  Now, eventually more info will come...but as a reminder, kids have been arrested and suspended even for finger gunning as a joke...not mocking, facts. 

Police are in a tough spot on this.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/6-year-old-fingers-shape-of-gun-suspended_n_6813864

Those two links only mention suspensions not arrests for the finger gun unless I skipped over a portion.

[Cheeks]

Those two links only mention suspensions not arrests for the finger gun unless I skipped over a portion.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6015165/finger-gun-arrest-school/

A few weeks ago

[Cheeks]

It depends on what he said along with the picture. Unless you know what was said, it's probably best to wait until the DA addresses it.

Agree...or did you mean to address this to Jockey and accidentally addressed to Rocket....

[Cheeks]

But you're not mocking ...

Way to drop it...

And no, I am not mocking it...I provided multiple factual points of finger gunning over reactions.

And Jockey said " Destroy this creep. Use Federal terrorism laws to put him away for a long, long time.".

Judge. Jury. Executioner.   ZERO DUE PROCESS

[Galway Eagle]

LOL.  Ah yes.  Deserved because that's where we are at. 

So next time a MU athlete pushes another student athlete from another school during an event the police will be called, right?  Aren't they threatening them?  All kinds of stuff in the student code of conduct that seems real squishy. 

I'll continue to wait for more information rather than rush to judgment on this case as the police are in a tough spot, in the meantime a reminder that there has also been a massive over rotation on a ton of things in life be it comedy, social posts, not properly call someone by the right gender when they didn't even know that was a request, to finger gunning, and everything in between.  Progress.  Do I blame the cops or school in this incident...I DO NOT. 

I'm going to fire up my pick up truck right now, head to Arby's and apparently rape Mother Earth in the process for eating meat and putting out carbon emissions...my dog is going with me and she may fart, putting methane into the environment...but the bitch is good (we still allowed to say bitch)?  I may finger gun the plastic (oil is bad) frisbee I throw her as we play catch...hopefully no one calls the police.

I was at least one of the people who made a punch threat and I maintain you deserved it so yes that's where we are.  Don't know about ones others made.

Is a push a threat? I personally don't think so. Now if Theo John gave an interview where he says he's gonna lay  Myles Powell out that seems like a threat. I'd say a push is the least threatening of all physical altercations.

I agree about waiting for more information. But I also think police were more than warranted to get involved. I'm sure every kid was just joking about shooting up places... till they were serious.

If that's what revs your engine on a Sunday you do you.

[Galway Eagle]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6015165/finger-gun-arrest-school/

A few weeks ago

Thanks. Why is it we aren't waiting for more information on these cases? I think there's a difference between that kid playing cops and robbers and a kid doing this saying "I'm going to kill all of you". If they interviewed her and decided to make an arrest clearly it wasn't just a goofing around situation.

[Cheeks]

I was at least one of the people who made a punch threat and I maintain you deserved it so yes that's where we are.  Don't know about ones others made.

Is a push a threat? I personally don't think so. Now if Theo John gave an interview where he says he's gonna lay  Myles Powell out that seems like a threat. I'd say a push is the least threatening of all physical altercations.

I agree about waiting for more information. But I also think police were more than warranted to get involved. I'm sure every kid was just joking about shooting up places... till they were serious.

If that's what revs your engine on a Sunday you do you.

I also agree the police did the right thing.  It's the other reactions by people here.

I am glad you admitted your bodily harm threat (note I didn't report you or demand you be banned like a certain ideologically bent brigade does here) and maybe Pakuni will acknowledge, in fact, those threats have occurred.  Others have been threatened here as well, ironically usually by the oh so tolerant preachy ones.

[Cheeks]

Thanks. Why is it we aren't waiting for more information on these cases? I think there's a difference between that kid playing cops and robbers and a kid doing this saying "I'm going to kill all of you". If they interviewed her and decided to make an arrest clearly it wasn't just a goofing around situation.

I suspect we will find out...or are you suggesting now that all arrests are justified, never wrong, and always with great clarity...that would be a first from you...when did you arrive at this epiphany?

[Galway Eagle]

I suspect we will find out...or are you suggesting now that all arrests are justified, never wrong, and always with great clarity...that would be a first from you...when did you arrive at this epiphany?

Not at all. I'm saying that from the information provided they seemed to have taken steps to determine whether it was goofing off or an actual threat. If they'd gone in guns drawn for this I'd be calling foul and if she clearly meant this as a threat and they said "oh well just a gun gesture" I'd call foul to.

[Pakuni]

I also agree the police did the right thing.  It's the other reactions by people here.

I am glad you admitted your bodily harm threat (note I didn't report you or demand you be banned like a certain ideologically bent brigade does here) and maybe Pakuni will acknowledge, in fact, those threats have occurred.  Others have been threatened here as well, ironically usually by the oh so tolerant preachy ones.

Don't be so infantile. I said if that happened, it's terrible and you should report it.
And you calling anyone preachy ....

[wadesworld]

LOL.  Ah yes.  Deserved because that's where we are at. 

So next time a MU athlete pushes another student athlete from another school during an event the police will be called, right?  Aren't they threatening them?  All kinds of stuff in the student code of conduct that seems real squishy. 

I'll continue to wait for more information rather than rush to judgment on this case as the police are in a tough spot, in the meantime a reminder that there has also been a massive over rotation on a ton of things in life be it comedy, social posts, not properly call someone by the right gender when they didn't even know that was a request, to finger gunning, and everything in between.  Progress.  Do I blame the cops or school in this incident...I DO NOT. 

I'm going to fire up my pick up truck right now, head to Arby's and apparently rape Mother Earth in the process for eating meat and putting out carbon emissions...my dog is going with me and she may fart, putting methane into the environment...but the bitch is good (we still allowed to say bitch)?  I may finger gun the plastic (oil is bad) frisbee I throw her as we play catch...hopefully no one calls the police.

You need some serious help.

[Galway Eagle]

I also agree the police did the right thing.  It's the other reactions by people here.

I am glad you admitted your bodily harm threat (note I didn't report you or demand you be banned like a certain ideologically bent brigade does here) and maybe Pakuni will acknowledge, in fact, those threats have occurred.  Others have been threatened here as well, ironically usually by the oh so tolerant preachy ones.

For the record what I believe i said was meeting you I'd be likely to punch you whereas rocket id just argue with over a beer. It was just after you insinuated I couldn't have loved the baby my ex girlfriend miscarried due to me being pro choice so it was more than deserved. I don't stand by that statement anymore but at the time it was deserved.

So yes pakuni 5yrs ago there was a threat. Mea culpa

I don't recall reading any other threats though.