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Author Topic: CA Bans Fur  (Read 18228 times)

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2019, 08:34:28 PM »
How would a ban on fur “fail?”

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2019, 08:36:16 PM »
What becomes leather is coming from an animal that is also being killed for food (necessary fir sustenance). It’s using the entire animal. Mink, foxes, chinchillas, nutria, they are killed only for their pelts and nothing more.

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2019, 09:59:31 PM »
What becomes leather is coming from an animal that is also being killed for food (necessary fir sustenance). It’s using the entire animal. Mink, foxes, chinchillas, nutria, they are killed only for their pelts and nothing more.

Some of my best friends are mink farmers, trust me they also use the whole animal. Mink carcasses are rendered and used in various different things including pet food. So if you have a cat or dog, you've probably been feeding them rendered byproducts from an animal that was harvested for its fur.

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2019, 10:27:18 PM »
Some of my best friends are mink farmers, trust me they also use the whole animal. Mink carcasses are rendered and used in various different things including pet food. So if you have a cat or dog, you've probably been feeding them rendered byproducts from an animal that was harvested for its fur.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2019, 06:09:28 AM »
Some of my best friends are mink farmers, trust me they also use the whole animal. Mink carcasses are rendered and used in various different things including pet food. So if you have a cat or dog, you've probably been feeding them rendered byproducts from an animal that was harvested for its fur.

Does this change opinions?

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2019, 07:16:21 AM »
Next, they should ban green dresses.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2019, 10:53:19 AM »
Some of my best friends are mink farmers, trust me they also use the whole animal. Mink carcasses are rendered and used in various different things including pet food. So if you have a cat or dog, you've probably been feeding them rendered byproducts from an animal that was harvested for its fur.

Didn't know that, interesting.


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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2019, 11:36:04 AM »
Next, they should ban green dresses.
But not a real green dress, that's cruel....
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2019, 11:56:38 AM »
But not a real green dress, that's cruel....

Which is precisely why they should be banned.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2019, 12:46:54 PM »
Some of my best friends are mink farmers, trust me they also use the whole animal. Mink carcasses are rendered and used in various different things including pet food. So if you have a cat or dog, you've probably been feeding them rendered byproducts from an animal that was harvested for its fur.

i worked on a mink ranch on weekends thru high school.  a lot of hard work, but so much more interesting and different than any other job i had.  i can attest to what turtle had to say.  fur is a renewable resource that it just so happens that some place a value on it
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2019, 01:14:54 PM »
i worked on a mink ranch on weekends thru high school.  a lot of hard work, but so much more interesting and different than any other job i had.  i can attest to what turtle had to say. fur is a renewable resource that it just so happens that some place a value on it


To be honest, I never really thought of it in those terms.  Makes sense though.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2019, 03:08:44 PM »
Does this change opinions?

No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.

Besides, my cat's food is imported from Italy. No mink parts in there.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2019, 03:15:10 PM »
No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.


Are mink farms any more cruel than a typical chicken farm?  Dairy farm?  As long as they are run ethically, I don't see a problem.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2019, 03:42:54 PM »
No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.

Besides, my cat's food is imported from Italy. No mink parts in there.

Unnecessary to whom? You? By all means don't buy fur, but why should a fur coat be any different than any other farmed resource? Why should your lifestyle choices or preferences be forced on anyone else?
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2019, 03:52:07 PM »
Unnecessary to whom? You? By all means don't buy fur, but why should a fur coat be any different than any other farmed resource? Why should your lifestyle choices or preferences be forced on anyone else?

Not specific to mink/fur, but don't we do this all the time?
We kill about 35 million cows a year for food, but horse slaughter is outlawed. Because horses are better looking.

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2019, 04:24:57 PM »
Not specific to mink/fur, but don't we do this all the time?
We kill about 35 million cows a year for food, but horse slaughter is outlawed. Because horses are better looking.

Don't disagree. I'm all for slaughtering horses too if there's a use to it.
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2019, 05:10:04 PM »
No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.

Besides, my cat's food is imported from Italy. No mink parts in there.

Proven dead wrong on your assertions but digging in anyway. America, 2019.

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2019, 07:21:12 PM »
Brazil also bans fur, aina?
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2019, 07:24:59 PM »
No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.

Besides, my cat's food is imported from Italy. No mink parts in there.



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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2019, 07:34:28 PM »
No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.

Besides, my cat's food is imported from Italy. No mink parts in there.

Italian cuisine....nice

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2019, 07:40:42 PM »
No. Clothing made of fur is still unnecessary and the result of cruelty to animals.

Besides, my cat's food is imported from Italy. No mink parts in there.

That's quite the carbon footprint for cat food.  No mice where you live bruh?

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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2019, 07:53:01 PM »
That's quite the carbon footprint for cat food.  No mice where you live bruh?

 mice probably give the little feller gas
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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2019, 07:55:14 PM »
Some of my best friends are mink farmers, trust me they also use the whole animal. Mink carcasses are rendered and used in various different things including pet food. So if you have a cat or dog, you've probably been feeding them rendered byproducts from an animal that was harvested for its fur.

While some are rendered for meat meal, many are simply incinerated and disposed of. And unless you are buying the cheapest crappiest dog food possible then mink and other fur byproducts are not in your dog food.

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2019, 08:00:51 PM »
Brazil also bans fur, aina?

Didn't you already try that exact same joke in this same thread?

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Re: CA Bans Fur
« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2019, 08:11:29 PM »
That's quite the carbon footprint for cat food.  No mice where you live bruh?

She's purely an indoor cat.  My local pet store carries the Italian stuff and she loved it when we got a sample so we made the switch.  We used to get a brand out of Mequon but she tired of it and wasn't eating it. High maintenance cat!
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