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Mr. Nielsen

I didn't see the Mel Tucker move coming.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 12, 2020, 09:47:49 AM
Never been in the same job for more than 3 years.  Had success in the NFL in Cleveland but bombed in Chicago.  Was at Georgia from 2016-18, spent time at Ohio State in the mid-2000's.  Doubled his salary.  The disparity between the haves and have nots in college football is growing quite large


How bad is the Pac 12 managed when a conference that includes all of the large metropolitan areas west of Denver is considered a "have not?"

How bad is your football when your best coach might be Herm Edwards?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2020, 10:15:05 AM

How bad is the Pac 12 managed when a conference that includes all of the large metropolitan areas west of Denver is considered a "have not?"

How bad is your football when your best coach might be Herm Edwards?

It's bad.  I'll be curious who Colorado gets to take the job.  I know the popular call is Eric Bieniemy but I'd be shocked if he took it.  If I'm a Colorado fan or alum, I'd be seriously questioning the decision to leave the Big 12.
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Billy Hoyle

#979
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2020, 10:15:05 AM

How bad is the Pac 12 managed when a conference that includes all of the large metropolitan areas west of Denver is considered a "have not?"

How bad is your football when your best coach might be Herm Edwards?

Very poor management. Larry Scott is an elitist idiot who moved the offices to San Francisco and the Transamerica tower, paying ridiculous rent, and has TV deal that provides significantly less revenue than the Big Ten and SEC.  Saw this article in Twitter this morning:

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2020/02/canzano-mel-tucker-leaving-colorado-proves-pac-12-is-ripe-for-the-poaching-and-its-just-beginning.html

Oh, and Mario Cristobal, David Shaw and Kyle Whittingham are easily the best coaches in the league.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2020, 10:15:05 AM

How bad is the Pac 12 managed when a conference that includes all of the large metropolitan areas west of Denver is considered a "have not?"

How bad is your football when your best coach might be Herm Edwards?

As a coach, Herm is a great motivational speaker. Coaching? Eh.

JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 12, 2020, 12:50:30 PM
Very poor management. Larry Scott is an elitist idiot who moved the offices to San Francisco and the Transamerica tower, paying ridiculous rent, and has TV deal that provides significantly less revenue than the Big Ten and SEC.  Saw this article in Twitter this morning:

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2020/02/canzano-mel-tucker-leaving-colorado-proves-pac-12-is-ripe-for-the-poaching-and-its-just-beginning.html

Oh, and Mario Cristobal, David Shaw and Kyle Whittingham are easily the best coaches in the league.

Cristobal is a really underrated coach. Happy to see him get a chance and succeed at Oregon. What he did at FIU was remarkable and it was insane that not only did he not get more looks higher up, they tossed him aside after 1 bad season.

CU is in a weird position. Pretty fertile recruiting area, great tradition, tons to sell recruits, they just keep missing on hires. I think this is honestly a blessing for them, cause I don't think Mel Tucker is all that impressive as a coach. They don't get Bieniemy cause he's waiting for the NFL HC job. I saw Bryan Harsin, but that's dumb, he won't leave Boise St for a mid level P5 job. I think they should look hard at Jim McElwain and Blake Anderson. Troy Calhoun would be interesting but I don't think the triple option will ever be truly successful at the top levels

Pakuni

Herm Edwards best Pac 12 coach? WTF?
Kyle Whittingham is the best coach in the Pac 12, and I'm not sure it's close.
David Shaw is next.


Also, Mel Tucker might want to delete this this tweet any time now:

Mel Tucker
@Coach_mtucker
While I am flattered to be considered for the HC job @MSU_Football, I am committed to @CUBuffsFootball for #TheBuild of our program, its great athletes, coaches & supporters. #UnfinishedBusiness #GoBuffs
We are #Relentless #Culture #TheBuild

The Sultan

I didn't say Edwards WAS the best coach.  I said he MIGHT BE the best coach.

When Whittingham wins something of significance, or Christobal proves it for more than one year, it will be an easy choice.  And I had forgot about Shaw.  Yes, I would put him in the spot for now.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2020, 02:18:17 PM
I didn't say Edwards WAS the best coach.  I said he MIGHT BE the best coach.

When Whittingham wins something of significance, or Christobal proves it for more than one year, it will be an easy choice.  And I had forgot about Shaw.  Yes, I would put him in the spot for now.

Whittingham did complete a 13-0 season with a thrashing of very good Alabama team in the Sugar Bowl not too long ago. They ended that season ranked #2.
That seems significant.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on February 12, 2020, 02:15:01 PM
Herm Edwards best Pac 12 coach? WTF?
Kyle Whittingham is the best coach in the Pac 12, and I'm not sure it's close.
David Shaw is next.


Also, Mel Tucker might want to delete this this tweet any time now:

Mel Tucker
@Coach_mtucker
While I am flattered to be considered for the HC job @MSU_Football, I am committed to @CUBuffsFootball for #TheBuild of our program, its great athletes, coaches & supporters. #UnfinishedBusiness #GoBuffs
We are #Relentless #Culture #TheBuild

Wonder if Andy Katz will call him a quitter?
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on February 12, 2020, 02:35:30 PM
Whittingham did complete a 13-0 season with a thrashing of very good Alabama team in the Sugar Bowl not too long ago. They ended that season ranked #2.
That seems significant.


Eh.  Mountain West Conference.  Until last year, he's been good but not great in the Pac 12.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on February 12, 2020, 02:15:01 PM
Herm Edwards best Pac 12 coach? WTF?
Kyle Whittingham is the best coach in the Pac 12, and I'm not sure it's close.
David Shaw is next.


Also, Mel Tucker might want to delete this this tweet any time now:

Mel Tucker
@Coach_mtucker
While I am flattered to be considered for the HC job @MSU_Football, I am committed to @CUBuffsFootball for #TheBuild of our program, its great athletes, coaches & supporters. #UnfinishedBusiness #GoBuffs
We are #Relentless #Culture #TheBuild



Why?  Rarely does a coach leaving for another job, even after he said he was staying, have any repercussions. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2020, 02:47:41 PM

Eh.  Mountain West Conference.  Until last year, he's been good but not great in the Pac 12.

Mountain West featured two top 10 teams that year (TCU was the other). And the Alabama team Utah thumped had only one other loss that season, to eventual national champion Florida in the SEC Championship game.
Anyhow, I think an undefeated season, #2 ranking and beating Bama by two TDs in a Sugar Bowl is "significant."
You do not.
Fair enough.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on February 12, 2020, 03:19:27 PM
Mountain West featured two top 10 teams that year (TCU was the other). And the Alabama team Utah thumped had only one other loss that season, to eventual national champion Florida in the SEC Championship game.
Anyhow, I think an undefeated season, #2 ranking and beating Bama by two TDs in a Sugar Bowl is "significant."
You do not.
Fair enough.


No you are correct.  It is significant.  I guess I'm just thinking he hasn't done all that much in the Pac 12.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 12, 2020, 03:24:08 PM

No you are correct.  It is significant.  I guess I'm just thinking he hasn't done all that much in the Pac 12.

Significant would have been beating Oregon to win the Pac-12.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

MUBurrow



MU82

Quote from: jesmu84 on February 12, 2020, 05:30:43 PM
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/1860370/there-is-no-transfer-portal-in-the-real-world-mel-tucker-4-months-before-transferring-jobs

I love the total hypocrisy after trying to bully your players.

Hypocrites.

They demand loyalty ... until it's their turn to be loyal. They demand honesty ... until it's their turn to be honest.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

Quote from: MUBurrow on February 12, 2020, 06:09:17 PM
Lol, and so stupid.  The entire real world is nothing but one big transfer portal.

Not in my industry....non competes that last at least 12 months, some for 2 years.  We have to "sit out"
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Pakuni

Quote from: Cheeks on February 12, 2020, 11:11:16 PM
Not in my industry....non competes that last at least 12 months, some for 2 years.  We have to "sit out"

NCAA athletes aren't employees. Or so I've heard.

keefe

Quote from: Cheeks on February 12, 2020, 11:11:16 PM
Not in my industry....non competes that last at least 12 months, some for 2 years.  We have to "sit out"

There are non-competes for janitorial work?


Death on call

Pakuni

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
#Giants OLBs coach and senior defensive assistant Bret Bielema is interviewing for the head coaching job at the University of Colorado, sources say. The former Wisconsin and Arkansas coach could be back in college.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on February 17, 2020, 11:44:28 AM
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
#Giants OLBs coach and senior defensive assistant Bret Bielema is interviewing for the head coaching job at the University of Colorado, sources say. The former Wisconsin and Arkansas coach could be back in college.

Bret Bielema in Boulder.  What could go wrong?
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