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Silkk the Shaka

Had some down time at work and wanted to peruse this site for 2020 projections:

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Anyone know when it usually updates for the upcoming season?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 19, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Had some down time at work and wanted to peruse this site for 2020 projections:

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Anyone know when it usually updates for the upcoming season?

We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

real chili 83

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 19, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

Mrs Hauser.

Marcus92

Every rating system has its limits. I find T-rank interesting, but am baffled how the system projects our offensive efficiency to increase and our defensive efficiency to decrease without the Hausers. Huh?

http://barttorvik.com/team.php?year=2019&team=Marquette

http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

Wojo Era

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 19, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

Nova practiced basketball, MU wrote letters.  Or something.

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 19, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?

While Villanova's were 83, 144, 282, 345, 380, 539

Nova with 6 players in the top 600....MU with 2.

More depth, better balance.

How in the wide world of sports were you not able.....nevermind
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

GooooMarquette

Some here called the #22 most valuable player a "cancer."

Good thing they aren't oncologists....

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: GooooMarquette on August 19, 2019, 11:33:35 PM
Some here called the #22 most valuable player a "cancer."

Good thing they aren't oncologists....

Proctologist?

Cheeks

Buzz had two guys in the top 50, but UNC only had one.....using Lenny Logic how did VPI finish behind UNC.  And FSU had no one in top 50, but also finished ahead of VPI.  Doh.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Class71

Quote from: Cheeks on August 19, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?

While Villanova's were 83, 144, 282, 345, 380, 539

Nova with 6 players in the top 600....MU with 2.

More depth, better balance.

How in the wide world of sports were you not able.....nevermind

Looks like balanced teams win that have solid play from all. Should not be surprising.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Cheeks on August 19, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?


Exactly my point. When was the last time MU had two players in the top 30? My guess is Al McGuire was the coach and I was a young man. What a shame/waste that our two top players had such little help. And where will the help/depth come from this season?

Its DJOver

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2019, 07:53:01 AM
Exactly my point. When was the last time MU had two players in the top 30? My guess is Al McGuire was the coach and I was a young man. What a shame/waste that our two top players had such little help. And where will the help/depth come from this season?

From some combination of the 5 scholarship players on the roster this year that either weren't here last year, or ineligible for some reason or another.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Silkk the Shaka

Damn, I was legitimately wondering when the site updates for the 2020 season!

Cheeks

Quote from: Class71 on August 20, 2019, 06:02:58 AM
Looks like balanced teams win that have solid play from all. Should not be surprising.

Exactly
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2019, 07:53:01 AM
Exactly my point. When was the last time MU had two players in the top 30? My guess is Al McGuire was the coach and I was a young man. What a shame/waste that our two top players had such little help. And where will the help/depth come from this season?

Oh really...that was your point.....but hey if you say that was the point then I believe you.  I'm sure it wasn't a swipe at the coach you love, etc.....I just don't get how Buzz didn't do better with two top 50 guys when other ACC teams with less "studs" did better....so weird.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Pakuni

Let's argue Wojo vs Buzz vs Crean some more, because there are plenty of new and insightful points to make.


The Sultan

Cheeks and Lennys need a break from one another.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

muwarrior69

Quote from: Pakuni on August 20, 2019, 09:45:45 AM
Let's argue Wojo vs Buzz vs Crean some more, because there are plenty of new and insightful points to make.



We are a Jesuit institution. That is why that dead horse keeps rising again.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: Cheeks on August 19, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?

While Villanova's were 83, 144, 282, 345, 380, 539

Nova with 6 players in the top 600....MU with 2.

More depth, better balance.

How in the wide world of sports were you not able.....nevermind

Whose fault was it that the next guys were 611, 805, and 811?  Our GM must really suck.

wadesworld

Quote from: Research Report on August 20, 2019, 12:20:17 PM
Whose fault was it that the next guys were 611, 805, and 811?  Our GM must really suck.

When you compare him to Jay Wright?

Yeah, fair enough, Wojo does suck compared to Jay Wright.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on August 20, 2019, 12:24:41 PM
When you compare him to Jay Wright?

Yeah, fair enough, Wojo does suck compared to Jay Wright.

Jay Wright was the only coach in college basketball whose 3rd, 4th and 5th best players were better than 611, 805 and 811?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 20, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
Cheeks and Lennys need a break from one another.

Cheeks could use a break from everybody not named Billy or Warrior Dad - but point well taken regardless.

panda


wadesworld

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2019, 12:52:55 PM
Jay Wright was the only coach in college basketball whose 3rd, 4th and 5th best players were better than 611, 805 and 811?

Don't know. Don't care. We're talking about how MU finished behind Nova in the BE, right? So Wojo vs. Wright, no?

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 19, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Had some down time at work and wanted to peruse this site for 2020 projections:

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Anyone know when it usually updates for the upcoming season?

Message this guy .. it's his site:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1332

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