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Title: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 19, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Had some down time at work and wanted to peruse this site for 2020 projections:

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Anyone know when it usually updates for the upcoming season?
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 19, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
Had some down time at work and wanted to peruse this site for 2020 projections:

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Anyone know when it usually updates for the upcoming season?

We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: real chili 83 on August 19, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

Mrs Hauser.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Marcus92 on August 19, 2019, 09:07:43 PM
Every rating system has its limits. I find T-rank interesting, but am baffled how the system projects our offensive efficiency to increase and our defensive efficiency to decrease without the Hausers. Huh?

http://barttorvik.com/team.php?year=2019&team=Marquette (http://barttorvik.com/team.php?year=2019&team=Marquette)

http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020 (http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020)
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Wojo Era on August 19, 2019, 11:08:38 PM
We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

Nova practiced basketball, MU wrote letters.  Or something.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 19, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
We had the 22nd and 28th most valuable players in the country. "Nova had #85 and #144? How in the Wide World of Sports did we not win the Big East?

Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?

While Villanova’s were 83, 144, 282, 345, 380, 539

Nova with 6 players in the top 600....MU with 2.

More depth, better balance.

How in the wide world of sports were you not able.....nevermind
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: GooooMarquette on August 19, 2019, 11:33:35 PM
Some here called the #22 most valuable player a "cancer."

Good thing they aren't oncologists....
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 19, 2019, 11:39:27 PM
Some here called the #22 most valuable player a "cancer."

Good thing they aren't oncologists....

Proctologist?
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 12:24:16 AM
Buzz had two guys in the top 50, but UNC only had one.....using Lenny Logic how did VPI finish behind UNC.  And FSU had no one in top 50, but also finished ahead of VPI.  Doh.

Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Class71 on August 20, 2019, 06:02:58 AM
Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?

While Villanova’s were 83, 144, 282, 345, 380, 539

Nova with 6 players in the top 600....MU with 2.

More depth, better balance.

How in the wide world of sports were you not able.....nevermind

Looks like balanced teams win that have solid play from all. Should not be surprising.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2019, 07:53:01 AM
Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?


Exactly my point. When was the last time MU had two players in the top 30? My guess is Al McGuire was the coach and I was a young man. What a shame/waste that our two top players had such little help. And where will the help/depth come from this season?
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Its DJOver on August 20, 2019, 08:19:00 AM
Exactly my point. When was the last time MU had two players in the top 30? My guess is Al McGuire was the coach and I was a young man. What a shame/waste that our two top players had such little help. And where will the help/depth come from this season?

From some combination of the 5 scholarship players on the roster this year that either weren't here last year, or ineligible for some reason or another.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on August 20, 2019, 08:40:23 AM
Damn, I was legitimately wondering when the site updates for the 2020 season!
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 08:54:22 AM
Looks like balanced teams win that have solid play from all. Should not be surprising.

Exactly
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 08:57:04 AM
Exactly my point. When was the last time MU had two players in the top 30? My guess is Al McGuire was the coach and I was a young man. What a shame/waste that our two top players had such little help. And where will the help/depth come from this season?

Oh really...that was your point.....but hey if you say that was the point then I believe you.  I’m sure it wasn’t a swipe at the coach you love, etc.....I just don’t get how Buzz didn’t do better with two top 50 guys when other ACC teams with less “studs” did better....so weird.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Pakuni on August 20, 2019, 09:45:45 AM
Let's argue Wojo vs Buzz vs Crean some more, because there are plenty of new and insightful points to make.

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Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 20, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
Cheeks and Lennys need a break from one another.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 20, 2019, 12:15:28 PM
Let's argue Wojo vs Buzz vs Crean some more, because there are plenty of new and insightful points to make.

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Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Silent Verbal on August 20, 2019, 12:20:17 PM
Oh jeez, could it be because the next players after that were 611, 805 and 811?

While Villanova’s were 83, 144, 282, 345, 380, 539

Nova with 6 players in the top 600....MU with 2.

More depth, better balance.

How in the wide world of sports were you not able.....nevermind

Whose fault was it that the next guys were 611, 805, and 811?  Our GM must really suck.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: wadesworld on August 20, 2019, 12:24:41 PM
Whose fault was it that the next guys were 611, 805, and 811?  Our GM must really suck.

When you compare him to Jay Wright?

Yeah, fair enough, Wojo does suck compared to Jay Wright.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2019, 12:52:55 PM
When you compare him to Jay Wright?

Yeah, fair enough, Wojo does suck compared to Jay Wright.

Jay Wright was the only coach in college basketball whose 3rd, 4th and 5th best players were better than 611, 805 and 811?
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2019, 12:56:26 PM
Cheeks and Lennys need a break from one another.

Cheeks could use a break from everybody not named Billy or Warrior Dad - but point well taken regardless.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: panda on August 20, 2019, 01:08:41 PM
That is one ugly website...
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: wadesworld on August 20, 2019, 01:40:41 PM
Jay Wright was the only coach in college basketball whose 3rd, 4th and 5th best players were better than 611, 805 and 811?

Don’t know. Don’t care. We’re talking about how MU finished behind Nova in the BE, right? So Wojo vs. Wright, no?
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 20, 2019, 02:10:12 PM
Had some down time at work and wanted to peruse this site for 2020 projections:

http://www.valueaddbasketball.com/

Anyone know when it usually updates for the upcoming season?

Message this guy .. it's his site:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1332
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 20, 2019, 07:42:58 PM
Message this guy .. it's his site:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1332

Actually, this guy. Same guy but he created a new account (I I think this is the most recent one)

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10623
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Cheeks could use a break from everybody not named Billy or Warrior Dad - but point well taken regardless.

That’s funny.  You continue to be wrong on that front, but it was funny. 
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Whose fault was it that the next guys were 611, 805, and 811?  Our GM must really suck.

Or maybe he is required to recruit kids that have to be able to graduate, go to class, not get us on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune for the wrong reasons.....
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 08:25:28 PM
Jay Wright was the only coach in college basketball whose 3rd, 4th and 5th best players were better than 611, 805 and 811?

Nope, but you made this about MU and Nova...then the data called you out for your improper usage...then you made a cute story about what you meant...and now the shovel in your hand has you digging further.
Title: Re: Value Add Basketball 2020 projections
Post by: real chili 83 on August 20, 2019, 08:27:46 PM
Nope, but you made this about MU and Nova...then the data called you out for your improper usage...then you made a cute story about what you meant...and now the shovel in your hand has you digging further.

GET AN EFFING ROOM!  GET ‘ER DONE!