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Author Topic: NFL Thread 2019-2020  (Read 308614 times)

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2575 on: September 02, 2020, 02:44:19 PM »

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2577 on: September 02, 2020, 05:18:01 PM »

As a Packer fan, we need to keep Cousins alive. Put him and Mitch into a bubble.

Beat me to it. Don’t want either team getting a QB capable of sustained success.

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2579 on: September 04, 2020, 08:59:07 AM »
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2580 on: September 04, 2020, 09:12:47 AM »
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2581 on: September 04, 2020, 09:16:28 AM »
People love to tell athletes to shut up and dribble, but does anyone ever tell pastors to shut up and past?


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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2582 on: September 04, 2020, 09:25:28 AM »

Great.  Now I feel sorry for Kirk.

Oh, I don't.  He is fully involved.  I feel as bad for Kirk as I did for Drew Brees.

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2583 on: September 04, 2020, 02:12:18 PM »
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2584 on: September 05, 2020, 09:43:35 AM »
Look on the bright side, Bears fans ...team saved a ton of money by not drafting Mahomes or Watson.

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« Reply #2585 on: September 05, 2020, 10:12:50 AM »
Look on the bright side, Bears fans ...team saved a ton of money by not drafting Mahomes or Watson.

I kind of hope he flashes this year like say, Ryan Fitzpatrick and they panic and throw a big contract at him
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« Reply #2586 on: September 05, 2020, 10:30:27 AM »
Look on the bright side, Bears fans ...team saved a ton of money by not drafting Mahomes or Watson.
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2587 on: September 05, 2020, 11:09:01 AM »
I’m not intending this to be smart ass or mean, but how can an NFL organization be so completely inept at finding a good QB as the Bears have?  Sid Luckman’s final year was 1950, and the only guy since approaching being good was McMahon! You’d think just by dumb luck they would have stumbled onto one or two guys better than McMahon at least in all those years.  It’s really an incredibly bad run.

But I’ve enjoyed it greatly as a Packers fan! I know, couldn’t resist a little dig at the end 😀



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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2588 on: September 05, 2020, 11:28:48 AM »
Wow.

What a douchenozzle.

More proof for the “acorn” theory.

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2589 on: September 05, 2020, 02:59:15 PM »
I’m not intending this to be smart ass or mean, but how can an NFL organization be so completely inept at finding a good QB as the Bears have?  Sid Luckman’s final year was 1950, and the only guy since approaching being good was McMahon! You’d think just by dumb luck they would have stumbled onto one or two guys better than McMahon at least in all those years.  It’s really an incredibly bad run.

But I’ve enjoyed it greatly as a Packers fan! I know, couldn’t resist a little dig at the end 😀

So true. When I lived in Chicago, before every Packers-Bears game there would be the inevitable recap of the QBs the teams employed over the stretch of nearly two decades. The Bears had a bazillion of them, including luminaries such as Cade McNown, Shane Matthews, Henry Burris, Rick Mirer and Jonathan Quinn. The Packers had one.

I mean, even McMahon wasn't great. He wasn't bad, obviously, but he was hurt so often and was surrounded by so much talent when he did play that who knows. Mike Tomczak's winning percentage in Chicago was almost as good as McMahon's.

Like you say, it is amazing that they couldn't accidentally find somebody who could excel (and stay healthy) over a stretch of a few years.
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2590 on: September 05, 2020, 03:00:26 PM »
I’m not intending this to be smart ass or mean, but how can an NFL organization be so completely inept at finding a good QB as the Bears have?  Sid Luckman’s final year was 1950, and the only guy since approaching being good was McMahon! You’d think just by dumb luck they would have stumbled onto one or two guys better than McMahon at least in all those years.  It’s really an incredibly bad run.

But I’ve enjoyed it greatly as a Packers fan! I know, couldn’t resist a little dig at the end 😀

Cutler was fine. He gets dinged for his attitude and performances against the Packers but overall he was a pretty good QB. Top half of the league

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« Reply #2591 on: September 05, 2020, 05:01:49 PM »
Cutler was fine. He gets dinged for his attitude and performances against the Packers but overall he was a pretty good QB. Top half of the league

Yep. If he had been in Nagy’s system he likely would have done well. For all his flaws, he is 5x the QB Trubisky is.

I’m less bothered by them choosing Trubisky than I am seeing them waste even more draft capital for Foles to end right back where they started. This organization is a joke

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« Reply #2592 on: September 05, 2020, 05:31:28 PM »
Cutler wasn't very good in Denver, either, including an epic choke job to cost the Broncos a playoff spot. The guy had plenty of horrible games against teams not named Green Bay -- including a delightfully generous sh1t-the-bed performance that helped hand a game to my Panthers in 2014.

74-79 career record, including 51-51 for Chicago, with 2 playoff games in his entire 12-year career. Mediocrity personified.

And yes, he was definitely the second-best Bears QB since Luckman. Which reinforces Hutch's point nicely.
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2593 on: September 06, 2020, 02:14:57 PM »
Adrian Peterson signs one-year deal with Lions.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/09/06/source-adrian-peterson-agrees-to-1year-deal-with-detroit-lions

Hanging around just to hang around? He was one of the best in his prime, but now it kinda seems like a Jordan-type thing where a former star just can't let go....

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2594 on: September 06, 2020, 02:42:35 PM »
Cutler was fine. He gets dinged for his attitude and performances against the Packers but overall he was a pretty good QB. Top half of the league

That's pretty generous.
Cutler's QB rating and QBR ranking during his Bears' seasons:

2009 - 21st/21st
2010 - 16th/21st
2011 - 13th/10th
2012 - 20th/21st
2013 - 13th/5th
2014 - 17th/21st
2015 - 16th/15th
2016 - 27th/ 31st*

* = only 5 games.

Anyhow, I know QB rating and QBR are imperfect measurements, but Cutler rarely was a top half of the league QB. Most years, he was perfectly mediocre.

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2595 on: September 06, 2020, 02:48:19 PM »
Adrian Peterson signs one-year deal with Lions.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/09/06/source-adrian-peterson-agrees-to-1year-deal-with-detroit-lions

Hanging around just to hang around? He was one of the best in his prime, but now it kinda seems like a Jordan-type thing where a former star just can't let go....

To be fair, 2 seasons ago he was a 1000 yard rusher and last year had 900 yds despite missing a game. And with the platoon nature of RBs in the modern NFL, it makes sense. He’s still very productive, even if he’s not an every down top3 back anymore.

Speaking of sticking around, Josh McCown with a next level hustle of the Eagles. $12K a week to be their emergency QB on the “practice squad” but will stay at home in Texas and only fly in to Philly if needed as result of injury. Just wild

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« Reply #2596 on: September 06, 2020, 02:52:42 PM »
To be fair, 2 seasons ago he was a 1000 yard rusher and last year had 900 yds despite missing a game. And with the platoon nature of RBs in the modern NFL, it makes sense. He’s still very productive, even if he’s not an every down top3 back anymore.

Speaking of sticking around, Josh McCown with a next level hustle of the Eagles. $12K a week to be their emergency QB on the “practice squad” but will stay at home in Texas and only fly in to Philly if needed as result of injury. Just wild

Agree about A.P.

As for McCown ... "next level hustle"? That implies he pulled something over on the Eagles. I'm pretty sure it wasn't any flim-flammery on his part. All the Eagles had to do was say, "Nope, we're not interested."
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2597 on: September 06, 2020, 03:07:47 PM »
Cutler was fine. He gets dinged for his attitude and performances against the Packers but overall he was a pretty good QB. Top half of the league


I went to Vanderbilt for law school, so I desperately wanted to like him...but I think ‘top half’ is awfully generous.

Maybe it was just that I had been spoiled watching Favre for so long, playing through injuries and figuring out a way to step up in big games. Cutler seemed to be the exact opposite, with the smallest injury putting him on the bench and the biggest game putting him in the background.

He was OK, but nothing more, IMO.

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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2598 on: September 06, 2020, 03:11:09 PM »
I do not get the reasoning behind signing AP.   Unless the injuries to their running backs are worse than made public.  Lions.
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Re: NFL Thread 2019-2020
« Reply #2599 on: September 06, 2020, 04:04:11 PM »
Now look at the talent and coaching that surrounded cutler during his bears years.

I believe he was definitely a top half talent in the league

 

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