Author Topic: NFL Thread 2019-2020 (Read 317600 times)

Honestly, if this lingers and it looks like we may lose football, wouldn't that be brilliant? Sign him, not pay him, get little of the blowback, and then let it fade away in 2021.

JWags85 · « **Reply #2207 on:** April 10, 2020, 12:21:43 PM »

Quote from: MUDish on April 10, 2020, 11:43:06 AM

RIP XFL v2.0

No idea what their financial situation was like, but if it was less than ideal, what ideal cover to cut their losses and save face by blaming it on Da Rona

MU82 · « **Reply #2208 on:** April 13, 2020, 04:21:45 PM »

The Panthers just made Christian McCaffrey highest-paid RB in NFL history, giving him a 4-year deal at $16M per.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29030994/sources-panthers-make-christian-mccaffrey-nfl-highest-paid-rb

As a Panthers fan, I'm thrilled with this. He is a hell of a football player and is very good in the community.

Normally I'd be quite concerned in giving this kind of $$$ to a RB, but he is not your ordinary back. I have not seen many pass-catchers -- including WRs and TEs -- with better hands. He makes some amazing catches and constantly bails out his QB. He's also a gifted route-runner who could start at WR for most teams.

I do hope the Panthers reduce his between-the-tackles workload, though.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #2209 on:** April 13, 2020, 04:31:09 PM »

The McCaffrey money is interesting. He's obviously a hybrid RB/WR. The analytics say if he was just a WR, his output is just below league average. His RB numbers are great. His touches last five years, including final two years at Stanford, avg 320 touches a year, which is no bueno going forward.

His collective value as a RB1/Wideout make him an exceptional talent and he should be highly compensated. I like that the Panthers got out in front of this, and paid him first from the 2017 RB class (Bears did something similar in paying Eddie Jackson this offseason from the 2017 draft class). I don't like the dollar amount, but I get the how/why of them doing it, if that makes sense.

MU82 · « **Reply #2210 on:** April 13, 2020, 04:42:10 PM »

Quote from: MUDish on April 13, 2020, 04:31:09 PM

The McCaffrey money is interesting. He's obviously a hybrid RB/WR. The analytics say if he was just a WR, his output is just below league average. His RB numbers are great. His touches last five years, including final two years at Stanford, avg 320 touches a year, which is no bueno going forward.

His collective value as a RB1/Wideout make him an exceptional talent and he should be highly compensated. I like that the Panthers got out in front of this, and paid him first from the 2017 RB class (Bears did something similar in paying Eddie Jackson this offseason from the 2017 draft class). I don't like the dollar amount, but I get the how/why of them doing it, if that makes sense.

I get ya. That's a lot of touches and a lot of money. Even as I cheer him on these next few years, I'll have my fingers crossed.

I also justify it by appreciating that he was one of the most underpaid players in the league before this.

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #2211 on:** April 13, 2020, 05:08:36 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on April 13, 2020, 04:42:10 PM

I get ya. That's a lot of touches and a lot of money. Even as I cheer him on these next few years, I'll have my fingers crossed.

I also justify it by appreciating that he was one of the most underpaid players in the league before this.

Yeah, there's no way to get around the fact that he severely outperformed his rookie deal, and will probably be overpaid on his new paper. Obviously that's not a McCaffrey/Panthers solo issue.

I haven't seen yet what the percentage of guaranteed money is, or if the new paper is an extension wrapped in after the fourth year and optional fifth year, I'd imagine that would be the case. Reckless speculation on my part is that McCaffrey will get $33 mil in guaranteed money, and the Panthers will have some type of out after the 2023 season.

I think the interesting part of this new paper is that in paying him more, idealistically, you'd want to utilize him less in the passing game. You want his touches to go down, even though his compensation is going up.

MU82 · « **Reply #2212 on:** April 13, 2020, 06:34:23 PM »

Quote from: MUDish on April 13, 2020, 05:08:36 PM

Yeah, there's no way to get around the fact that he severely outperformed his rookie deal, and will probably be overpaid on his new paper. Obviously that's not a McCaffrey/Panthers solo issue.

I haven't seen yet what the percentage of guaranteed money is, or if the new paper is an extension wrapped in after the fourth year and optional fifth year, I'd imagine that would be the case. Reckless speculation on my part is that McCaffrey will get $33 mil in guaranteed money, and the Panthers will have some type of out after the 2023 season.

I think the interesting part of this new paper is that in paying him more, idealistically, you'd want to utilize him less in the passing game. You want his touches to go down, even though his compensation is going up.

I haven't seen what the guarantee is yet, either.

I actually think the fewer touches needs to come in the running game. He is SO valuable as a receiver and nobody on the roster can come close to replicating what he can do in that realm. Plus, just having him as a threat in the passing game makes the other receivers better.

MU82 · « **Reply #2213 on:** April 17, 2020, 09:05:55 AM »

Jay Glazer did not cover himself with glory in using a player's COVID-19 to pump up ratings.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/04/jay-glazer-big-breaking-news-reaction-coronavirus-brian-allen-nfl

JWags85 · « **Reply #2214 on:** April 17, 2020, 10:00:21 AM »

Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2020, 09:05:55 AM

Jay Glazer did not cover himself with glory in using a player's COVID-19 to pump up ratings.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/04/jay-glazer-big-breaking-news-reaction-coronavirus-brian-allen-nfl

I didn't bring it up here, cause I didn't know if it was just me, but what jackass Glazer was with this whole thing. Drumming up buzz, mystery, intrigue...and then drops one of the most inconsequential pieces of news Ive heard in awhile. No offense to Brian Allen, but he's largely a nobody within casual NFL ranks, a "who?!" to most fans. Glazer hyped it up like there were major ramifications or interest to his announcement, especially at a time where sports restarting was a hot topic. Douche.

Also loved Rappaport dropping the very next day the Von Miller news, an actual superstar that is newsworthy.

Jockey · « **Reply #2215 on:** April 17, 2020, 11:04:45 AM »

Quote from: JWags85 on April 17, 2020, 10:00:21 AM

I didn't bring it up here, cause I didn't know if it was just me, but what jackass Glazer was with this whole thing. Drumming up buzz, mystery, intrigue...and then drops one of the most inconsequential pieces of news Ive heard in awhile. No offense to Brian Allen, but he's largely a nobody within casual NFL ranks, a "who?!" to most fans. Glazer hyped it up like there were major ramifications or interest to his announcement, especially at a time where sports restarting was a hot topic. Douche.

Also loved Rappaport dropping the very next day the Von Miller news, an actual superstar that is newsworthy.

Sounds like you listened to The Score yesterday.

JWags85 · « **Reply #2216 on:** April 17, 2020, 12:50:42 PM »

Quote from: Jockey on April 17, 2020, 11:04:45 AM

Sounds like you listened to The Score yesterday.

No, shockingly I can come up with my own opinions and annoyances about sports topics without regurgitating the Score's trite nonsense.

jesmu84 · « **Reply #2217 on:** April 21, 2020, 03:35:29 PM »

Gronk to Tampa Bay

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #2218 on:** April 21, 2020, 04:03:36 PM »

Ryan Pace should be sprinting to the phone to make a deal to get OJ Howard.

Jockey · « **Reply #2219 on:** April 21, 2020, 04:35:52 PM »

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 21, 2020, 03:35:29 PM

Gronk to Tampa Bay

Good deal for both teams.

NE got a 4th for nothing - Gronk was never going back there.

TB gets a security blanket for Brady.

cheebs09 · « **Reply #2220 on:** April 21, 2020, 04:44:40 PM »

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 21, 2020, 03:35:29 PM

Gronk to Tampa Bay

First reported by Leroy, the Insider Dog.

Pakuni · « **Reply #2221 on:** April 22, 2020, 11:42:46 AM »

Quote from: MUDish on April 21, 2020, 04:03:36 PM

Ryan Pace should be sprinting to the phone to make a deal to get OJ Howard.

Why? They've got Jimmy Graham!

DegenerateDish · « **Reply #2222 on:** April 22, 2020, 11:45:18 AM »

Quote from: Pakuni on April 22, 2020, 11:42:46 AM

Why? They've got Jimmy Graham!

They should already list Graham on the injury report "Bruised Hip - Too much cash in wallet".

GB Warrior · « **Reply #2223 on:** April 23, 2020, 01:32:01 PM »

NFL Draft tonight. Christmas of the NFL offseason (especially true for Packer fans during the Ted years). Going to be weird tonight - I expect there to be some shenanigans and panicking from the old men using technology for the first time. To say nothing of the cybersecurity risks! Hope no one is suspicious when Joe Burrow drops to Pick 23.

tower912 · « **Reply #2224 on:** April 23, 2020, 01:36:01 PM »

Whoever Detroit drafts will be wrong.

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