NCAA to tighten transfer rules

[#UnleashSean]

The issue is that it’s about education. Student-athletes are being PROTECTED by the transfer rules. Sit a year to get acclimated, yet still be on scholarship.  Great setup!

 

[Cheeks]

You want to be a pro, go to the G League and sell yourself for endorsement rights.  Pretty simple.

No one is stopping anyone from doing that.  There are alternatives. 

[#UnleashSean]

You want to be a pro, go to the G League and sell yourself for endorsement rights.  Pretty simple.

No one is stopping anyone from doing that.  There are alternatives.

OK.... And?

[Cheeks]

McDonald’s should be forced to offer lobster...it’s a restaurant and therefore they must conform and not be allowed to have their own rules, menu, approach. 

[#UnleashSean]

McDonald’s should be forced to offer lobster...it’s a restaurant and therefore they must conform and not be allowed to have their own rules, menu, approach.

Okay, until you feel like offering a real conversation and not an asinine "analogy" I'm done talking to you in this thread.

[MU82]

Why should Isaiah Cannon or Ja Morant be responsible for Murray State's budget?
Are you suggesting a European soccer transfer model for players?

This.

Isn't it interesting to hear people who otherwise argue for the free market say the opposite should be true for college athletes?

[Cheeks]

Okay, until you feel like offering a real conversation and not an asinine "analogy" I'm done talking to you in this thread.

It’s not.  College ball isn’t professional, stop trying to make it so.  You want pro ball, go play pro ball.  You want a scholarship an$ an education, your other alternative is college basketball.  You have a choice.  Stop making it into something it is not, for the same reason McDonald’s is a restaurant but not a Michelin 5 star restaurant...despite both serving food to customers. 

[#UnleashSean]

This.

Isn't it interesting to hear people who otherwise argue for the free market say the opposite should be true for college athletes?

I know right, its so funny to me. I pointed this out on the last go around. A stark republican like Cheeks and a stark Democrat like pakuni actually do a 180 on their views when it comes to this one scenario. It's crazy how that works.

[lawdog77]

I don't have consequences for leaving a job I do not enjoy. Why should there be consequences for players making money for their schools? Again, dumb.

Maybe one day you will grow up and work at a job where your talents are valued, and they have you sign a noncompete.

[Pakuni]

Maybe one day you will grow up and work at a job where your talents are valued, and they have you sign a noncompete.

So you want to treat NCAA athletes as employees who are working at a job?
Cool. They can now form a union and bargain for things like better compensation, health benefits, hours, etc.

I mean, Mark Emmert and the schools have fought that tooth and nail, but I'm with you on this one.

[Pakuni]

The issue is that it’s about education. Student-athletes are being PROTECTED by the transfer rules. Sit a year to get acclimated, yet still be on scholarship.  Great setup!

If students need a year to get acclimated, we need to return to the days when freshmen couldn't play.
Cause it's all about education.

[Pakuni]

I know right, its so funny to me. I pointed this out on the last go around. A stark republican like Cheeks and a stark Democrat like pakuni actually do a 180 on their views when it comes to this one scenario. It's crazy how that works.

FYI ... people who know me in the real world would never describe me that way. And, fyi, even here I can't think of a time I've said anything 180 from a free market.

Not to go too far astray, but nobody wants a truly free market. We all just puck and choose the level of freedom and for whom based on our values and biases.

[lawdog77]

So you want to treat NCAA athletes as employees who are working at a job?
Cool. They can now form a union and bargain for things like better compensation, health benefits, hours, etc.

I mean, Mark Emmert and the schools have fought that tooth and nail, but I'm with you on this one.

I think they should get paid, and should form a players association.

[Pakuni]

I think they should get paid, and should form a players association.

OK. We agree.
And if the colleges want to seek a one-year no compete for transfers as part of a CBA, that should be their right.

[#UnleashSean]

Maybe one day you will grow up and work at a job where your talents are valued, and they have you sign a noncompete.

I laughed.

[StillAWarrior]

The issue is that it’s about education. Student-athletes are being PROTECTED by the transfer rules. Sit a year to get acclimated, yet still be on scholarship.  Great setup!

If it was a rule intended to protect student-athletes, it would probably apply to...I don’t know...most student athletes. But, since it’s a rule that applies to only a small minority of student-athletes, I have to wonder if the goal might be something other than to protect the student-athletes. If only I could put my finger on what the small group where it applies has in common, I might be able to figure out the rule’s intent. But I’m $tumped.

[real chili 83]

In before the lock.

[#UnleashSean]

In before the lock.

The Jessie thread is somehow still alive in the superbar. This must be safe.

[Cheeks]

If students need a year to get acclimated, we need to return to the days when freshmen couldn't play.
Cause it's all about education.

Fine with me.  Tremendous idea.  You want to get paid, go pro.  You want to get an education and also have a chance to go pro, go to college.  Simple.

[Cheeks]

I know right, its so funny to me. I pointed this out on the last go around. A stark republican like Cheeks and a stark Democrat like pakuni actually do a 180 on their views when it comes to this one scenario. It's crazy how that works.

I’m not a Republican, let alone stark.  I have been a registered Dem and GOP in my life, have been neither for easily a decade.  More libertarian than anything.  I have many views on things that don’t fit into your identity politics....or policies...despite you labeling me as.  I haven’t voted for the GOP pres candidate for multiple elections so how can I be a stark member as you claim?  Now Stop with the politics.

[Cheeks]

I think they should get paid, and should form a players association.

Could not disagree more.  Title IX.  Lost opportunities.  Total destruction of the system that will have you no longer cheering for MU, except at intramural sand club sports.

[Pakuni]

Fine with me.  Tremendous idea.  You want to get paid, go pro.  You want to get an education and also have a chance to go pro, go to college.  Simple.

Coaches get paid. Trainers get paid. Administrators get paid. SIDs get paid. Ticket sellers get paid. Merchandise makers and sellers get paid. Universities get paid.
But yeah, these are amateur athletics.

[Pakuni]

Could not disagree more.  Title IX.  Lost opportunities.  Total destruction of the system that will have you no longer cheering for MU, except at intramural sand club sports.

Marquette will be fine, Me. Little.
And why preserve a system that provides free college educations to primarily white upper- and middle-class kids (those in non revenue spprts) through the labor of primarily lower-class black kids (i.e. the football and men's basketball players)?

[Jay Bee]

Marquette will be fine, Me. Little.
And why preserve a system that provides free college educations to primarily white upper- and middle-class kids (those in non revenue spprts) through the labor of primarily lower-class black kids (i.e. the football and men's basketball players)?

What data do you have on this? What does 'primarily' mean?

I think your claim is, how u say, FALSE.

[Herman Cain]

Marquette will be fine, Me. Little.
And why preserve a system that provides free college educations to primarily white upper- and middle-class kids (those in non revenue spprts) through the labor of primarily lower-class black kids (i.e. the football and men's basketball players)?

Non revenue sports are net tuition payers .  Small amount of scholarships spread over an entire team .