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muhoosier260

Who would've guessed!!! What a joke that MU does this, the number fudging fetish. There is no way there were more people there than the Pitt game last year, and thats just the first one that came to mind. (I will admit there was a larger crowd there than what I anticipated...I suppose they did sellout.) BIGGEST CROWD EVER!!!!! Whew-hooo!!! Is there like an orgy @ O'hara hall if they break the attendance record? Is that why this keeps happening?



mu_hilltopper

I posted this in another thread .. but the highest attended game past and future will always be MU vs. UW.  That's the hottest ticket, period.  Every luxury box is maxed. 

Tonight vs. DePaul was a good crowd, but no where close to the UW game in 2006.

ChicosBailBonds

No fudging...tickets sold or distributed, turnstyles are not counted for release of official attendance numbers.


rugbydrummer

yeah, i always feel a little skeptical when they say that now

seriously . . .  i can think of 3 other games for sure:

Pitt Gameday last year
MU vs. ND, with Novak 2006
and probably MU vs. Gtown & PItt in 06 too

seriously, that first year in the BE was almost heaven . . . beating then #2 UConn on our first game ever, then ND Home & Home, Gtown AND Pitt @ home . . .   playing our hearts out in SD vs. Alabama, scoring 50 points in a half!!!! i miss Steve!  ( i know, there were some ugly games too like losing to Cinci & L'ville)

maybe MU v. UWM . .  although weren't we making fun of it b/c it wasn't really sold out?  can't quite remember, but it involved making fun of UWM fans i think

mu_hilltopper

Well .. I wouldn't say for sure that those games (Pitt, ND, Gtown, etc) had more people or even sold more tickets.

DePaul is an old rival, and the school is only 90 miles South.   Not the same for Pitt or GTown .. and I highly doubt fans from ND are going to come up to MU in great numbers.   There was a good number of DPU fans at the BC last night.

So MU vs. DePaul has a shot at a huge attendance figure .. but no where near MU vs. UW.

PuertoRicanNightmare

There is no way the Pitt game had more people...that was the most ridiculous "biggest crowd" announcement ever. They had to eliminate seats for the ESPN studio guys. That was absolutely pre-ordained so that they would say that during the telecast. It gets old.

Last night was a huge crowd, though. Anybody else think the process of getting into the BC was unusually tortuous? And I didn't see that many DePaul fans. A few, yes. But not that many.

QPSS70

Yes, that was the longest wait to get through the turnstyles that I can recall. 

But checking out the south end upper level, there seemed to be tons of rows of empty seats.  I suppose those might have been group tickets that went unused, but it sure didn't look like a complete "sell-out" to me judging by people missing in the seats.




ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: muhoosier260 on January 26, 2008, 10:48:33 PM
Who would've guessed!!! What a joke that MU does this, the number fudging fetish. There is no way there were more people there than the Pitt game last year, and thats just the first one that came to mind. (I will admit there was a larger crowd there than what I anticipated...I suppose they did sellout.) BIGGEST CROWD EVER!!!!! Whew-hooo!!! Is there like an orgy @ O'hara hall if they break the attendance record? Is that why this keeps happening?

Hoosiers...what would you have them do?  Are they supposed to say  "well we sold the most tickets ever but since not everyone showed up it's not the biggest attendance game ever"?

This is the God's honest truth how it works (or did when I was there).  Usually with about 10 minutes to go in the game, the ticket manager and/or the head of the ticket off at the Bradley Center would give me a piece of paper with the ticket sales numbers on them.  I then passed that number on to the SID who put it officially into the box score as the home team is responsible for that.

As I stated before, there are two numbers...turnstyle and tickets sold/distributed (those include free tickets as youth giveaways, allotment to other team, etc).

As a rule of thumb we would typically inflate the number announced as the final sold by about 100.  This is because not everyone has a ticket and not everyone goes through a turnstyle.  Cheerleaders, band, the teams, referees, game administrators, the press.  Add all those up and it typically was around 100 people. 

MU reports tickets sold/distributed as reflected in the Ticketmaster system.  Indiana did it this way when I was there, Kansas did it this way when I was there, the Anaheim Angels did it this way when I was there, the Anaheim Ducks did it this way when I was there, so do roughly 90% of the programs / teams that are out there.  Some exceptions exist, but not many.

So when the public address announcer is notified of the attendance number, he's going to look in the media guide and if it's the highest ever he's going to announce it.  The only thing preventing that would be someone in the AD to say "don't announce it" because of no shows, but I just don't think that would ever happen.

There is no question that you guys are right, the Wisconsin game and a few others have all the suites filled, etc so there will be more bodies in the building.  But those suites are sold whether they are in the building or not, so they are counted either way.

mu_hilltopper

Right, suites are counted .. but I thought the suiteholders could buy extras, basically for standing room in the suites.

I'm not doubting that it happened.  I'm just shocked it (MU vs. DPU) could ever best a MU/UW game and the intense demand that generates, where people would buy a SRO type ticket without thinking twice.

NavinRJohnson

I thought last night was one of the most crowded games in recent memory. Lots of people, long, lines...

The Lens

#12
Regardless of whether it was or it wasn't, it's embarrassing how they keep announcing it.

While we're winning the state's attendance battle, UW is working on their 10 straight NCAA appearance; in which they've gone to a Final Four, an Elite 8 and a couple of Sweet 16s.  Which would you rather have?

Win some games in March Tom, then start counting heads.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on January 27, 2008, 04:12:20 PM
Regardless of whether it was of it wasn't, it's embarrassing how they keep announcing it.

While we're winning the state's attendance battle, UW is working on their 10 straight NCAA appearance; in which they've gone to a Final Four, an Elite 8 and a couple of Sweet 16s.  Which would you rather have?

Win some games in March Tom, then start counting heads.

I don't recall anyone claiming that attendance is a sunstitute for success in March. Our attendance is very good. MU should just ingnore that because they've lost a couple of first round games? Makes sense.

muhoosier260

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 27, 2008, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: muhoosier260 on January 26, 2008, 10:48:33 PM
Who would've guessed!!! What a joke that MU does this, the number fudging fetish. There is no way there were more people there than the Pitt game last year, and thats just the first one that came to mind. (I will admit there was a larger crowd there than what I anticipated...I suppose they did sellout.) BIGGEST CROWD EVER!!!!! Whew-hooo!!! Is there like an orgy @ O'hara hall if they break the attendance record? Is that why this keeps happening?

Hoosiers...what would you have them do?  Are they supposed to say  "well we sold the most tickets ever but since not everyone showed up it's not the biggest attendance game ever"?

This is the God's honest truth how it works (or did when I was there).  Usually with about 10 minutes to go in the game, the ticket manager and/or the head of the ticket off at the Bradley Center would give me a piece of paper with the ticket sales numbers on them.  I then passed that number on to the SID who put it officially into the box score as the home team is responsible for that.

As I stated before, there are two numbers...turnstyle and tickets sold/distributed (those include free tickets as youth giveaways, allotment to other team, etc).

As a rule of thumb we would typically inflate the number announced as the final sold by about 100.  This is because not everyone has a ticket and not everyone goes through a turnstyle.  Cheerleaders, band, the teams, referees, game administrators, the press.  Add all those up and it typically was around 100 people. 

MU reports tickets sold/distributed as reflected in the Ticketmaster system.  Indiana did it this way when I was there, Kansas did it this way when I was there, the Anaheim Angels did it this way when I was there, the Anaheim Ducks did it this way when I was there, so do roughly 90% of the programs / teams that are out there.  Some exceptions exist, but not many.

So when the public address announcer is notified of the attendance number, he's going to look in the media guide and if it's the highest ever he's going to announce it.  The only thing preventing that would be someone in the AD to say "don't announce it" because of no shows, but I just don't think that would ever happen.

There is no question that you guys are right, the Wisconsin game and a few others have all the suites filled, etc so there will be more bodies in the building.  But those suites are sold whether they are in the building or not, so they are counted either way.
i guess there's no other way, its just amusing that they keep selling out and keep break their own record. i mean, once you sell out, don't you sell out? How do you out do a sell out? And a game like this where there clearly aren't as many ppl there as other recent games, just makes you wonder thats all.

The Lens

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 27, 2008, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on January 27, 2008, 04:12:20 PM
Regardless of whether it was of it wasn't, it's embarrassing how they keep announcing it.

While we're winning the state's attendance battle, UW is working on their 10 straight NCAA appearance; in which they've gone to a Final Four, an Elite 8 and a couple of Sweet 16s.  Which would you rather have?

Win some games in March Tom, then start counting heads.

I don't recall anyone claiming that attendance is a sunstitute for success in March. Our attendance is very good. MU should just ingnore that because they've lost a couple of first round games? Makes sense.

Why do they keep having to hammer home that it is the largest crowd in WISCONSIN history?  Who gives a rats behind about the state of Wisconsin?  The State of Wisconsin, are you kidding me?  Shouldn't we have bigger fish to fry than the state of WISCONSIN?
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

PuertoRicanNightmare

Why can't they just announce it as a Marquette single game record?

By the way, did anybody ever find out how that CBSsportsline writer got his (incorrect) information about us being ranked for the longest period of time in its history?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on January 27, 2008, 04:12:20 PM
Regardless of whether it was or it wasn't, it's embarrassing how they keep announcing it.

While we're winning the state's attendance battle, UW is working on their 10 straight NCAA appearance; in which they've gone to a Final Four, an Elite 8 and a couple of Sweet 16s.  Which would you rather have?

Win some games in March Tom, then start counting heads.

And prior to those 10 years....60 years of nothing.

Kudos for their nice run, I like the fact we've done it in 6 straight decades.  I'll take that streak over theirs any day of the week.  I'll take our 25 NCAA appearances to their 13 any day of the week.

It's not Tom's call to mention the attendance, that is a function of the ticket department and marketing.

bananahammock

TC used most of his pre-game speech (the one on the jumbotron) to talk about the potential of an attendance record. does anyone really think he was told by the people in marketing that he should focus on that topic?  he is the marketing machine of the program!

why are bucks sellouts (when they used to have them) listed around 18,700 yet MU claims to fit 19,000 +?  SRO tickets not sold/counted for the bucks?

The Lens

Quote from: bananahammock on January 27, 2008, 06:24:41 PM
TC used most of his pre-game speech (the one on the jumbotron) to talk about the potential of an attendance record. does anyone really think he was told by the people in marketing that he should focus on that topic?  he is the marketing machine of the program!

The Hammock is right as usual...Chicos, our coach was talking about setting the record in his pre game speech !  No wonder he's earned the nickname CMO.  He's more into marketing than X's & O's.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on January 27, 2008, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: bananahammock on January 27, 2008, 06:24:41 PM
TC used most of his pre-game speech (the one on the jumbotron) to talk about the potential of an attendance record. does anyone really think he was told by the people in marketing that he should focus on that topic?  he is the marketing machine of the program!

The Hammock is right as usual...Chicos, our coach was talking about setting the record in his pre game speech !  No wonder he's earned the nickname CMO.  He's more into marketing than X's & O's.

Agreed. He's just a marketer, he doesn't know anything about x and o's. Let's fire him and bring back Dukiet or Deane. Those guys knew how to draw up x and o's.


Find a new topic to bitch about, guys. This one is lame. 

Big Papi

While we are blaming coach for MU announcing a record crowd this past Saturday, I hear that coach is also to blame for

snow in Wisconsin
the Marquette interchange
that Dickie V loves Duke
that ESPN Sportscenter loves to only show dunks
that college football won't come up with a legit playoff system
and us being involved in the Iraq war and all wars preceding that one.

At least bring up something legit to air your grievances about coach, all of us already know some of you really don't like the guy.

The Lens

Quote from: 2002mualum on January 28, 2008, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on January 27, 2008, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: bananahammock on January 27, 2008, 06:24:41 PM
TC used most of his pre-game speech (the one on the jumbotron) to talk about the potential of an attendance record. does anyone really think he was told by the people in marketing that he should focus on that topic?  he is the marketing machine of the program!

The Hammock is right as usual...Chicos, our coach was talking about setting the record in his pre game speech !  No wonder he's earned the nickname CMO.  He's more into marketing than X's & O's.

Agreed. He's just a marketer, he doesn't know anything about x and o's. Let's fire him and bring back Dukiet or Deane. Those guys knew how to draw up x and o's.


Find a new topic to bitch about, guys. This one is lame. 


I'd bring back KO...he sort of knew what he was doing.  And Deane was the coach for my last 3 years at MU - we were NIT Runners Up, 2nd Round NCAA and 1st NCAA with CUSA Championship.  See he wasn't 100% terrible, just like Coach Crean isn't 100% perfect. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

WhereisGeraldPosey

Unless UW plays @ the BC for a non-conf (like Maryland couple years back) or plays a game @ Miller Park, the record is safely in MU's hand as the Kohl Hole only holds 17,500.  Why do we keep beating the proverbial dead horse on this issue?

WhereisGeraldPosey

Slightly OT: Hammock,  what is up with your name?  Are you an ex-swimmer?

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