What was Wojo's alternative?

[MU82]

I've heard two versions of events, both of which I believe have some elements of truth. There's two sides to the story.

To me, this is the crux of everything. Too many folks want to assess "blame," and then only to their preferred antagonist(s).

[Fullodds]

My theory is they didn’t think Wojo was coaching them well enough/wasn’t a good enough coach.   They ended up with two of the best coaches in CBB.  Also speaks volumes about why they didn’t go to WI. 

[The Lens]

My theory is they didn’t think Wojo was coaching them well enough/wasn’t a good enough coach.   They ended up with two of the best coaches in CBB.  Also speaks volumes about why they didn’t go to WI.

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

Or maybe he saw the same thing as you and simply wasn't as concerned because it was working.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

Great post.

Speaking of film, is he done watching all our games from last year or is hot yoga taking up too much time?

[Golden Avalanche]

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

No mention of Joey hitting a wall once February came and having two fouls before the second media timeout in nearly every game? No mention of Sam passing up open looks and instead dribbling sideways because he could never blow by a guy? No mention of Sacar Anim being dynamite in a game and then disappearing for three games? No mention of Markus being injured in March?

Did your "All 22" view miss a few things?

[Pakuni]

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

The one in which the guy sitting in the corner seats is sure he understands what's happening on the court better than the coaching staff with 100+ years of professional experience.

[Cheeks]

Great post.

Speaking of film, is he done watching all our games from last year or is hot yoga taking up too much time?

The cancer that made All American.....

[forgetful]

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

Based on discussions on here by posters that "think they see something", more often than not, they are unaware of the speed, and complexities of the current college game. Times they think a person is open they are not, and the defense is actually sitting on and baiting the pass the viewer thinks is open.

A typical example is on the double team following a pick and roll. Often times it looked like Sam/Joey was wide open. But there was a defender close enough to intercept the only possible pass. It is open if you can get a quick pass there, but that option isn't available, as the big doubling in the middle is sitting on the over the top pass. The only way to get it through is to throw a high arcing pass over the top. If you do that, the help defender likely can get the steal (worst case), or best case, Sam/Joey is guarded tight on the catch.

Watch how Steph throws that pass, typically, very high and arcing, and only when the help defender is out of position. Or much later on the drive, when a player is cutting hard down the lane (Sam and Joey didn't cut hard down the lane). Both are easier to do in the NBA, because the spacing is much better because of an NBA 3-pt line.

That doesn't mean he doesn't miss some open passes, he does, but so does everyone else on the team. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No mention of Joey hitting a wall once February came and having two fouls before the second media timeout in nearly every game? No mention of Sam passing up open looks and instead dribbling sideways because he could never blow by a guy? No mention of Sacar Anim being dynamite in a game and then disappearing for three games? No mention of Markus being injured in March?

Did your "All 22" view miss a few things?

Are you suggesting that "The Lens" might be a little out of focus?

[wadesworld]

I for one would rather have Markus not making the pass and putting up a shot than I would have Joey making the lazy pass right to the defender for a breakaway dunk.

[4everwarriors]

Great post.

Speaking of film, is he done watching all our games from last year or is hot yoga taking up too much time?

Workin' on dat knew power point, hey?

[willie warrior]

My seats are in the corners and give me an "All 22" type view.  I can see a lot that develops and stuff that should develop.  Early on I started to see the 1 on 1 from Markus, while teammates were left open on the wing.  I texted friends after K State and Bucky and said we have issues.  I've long said it isn't that Markus refuses to pass, it is that he can't.  He doesn't see the floor that well.  Sure enough my "All 22" view came to roost.  And then they ended up at two of the Top 5 programs in the country.  What was Wojo's alternative?  Maybe watching more film.

Agreed. The What was Wojo's alternative advocates are pure whiners that do not see that Wojo is in over his head. he never made adjustments and did not get these kids together and on the same page. That is part of his job, and he failed at it. The only way to atone for it as far as the success of the team goes is to bring in equal or better talent to make up for the loss. and he has not done that. And please Wojo excuse makers, do not classify Symir as that talent. He was aleady committed before Hauser gate began.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

The cancer that made All American.....

That’s a perfect description of the 2018-2019 Marquette basketball team.

[MU82]

I for one would rather have Markus not making the pass and putting up a shot than I would have Joey making the lazy pass right to the defender for a breakaway dunk.

When I used to coach my son's 10U team, my philosophy was that any shot was a good shot because it was better than a turnover. I wouldn't think that would have to apply to college men, but down the stretch we had a few players that applied to. Joey definitely was the biggest offender, but Markus sometimes was, too.

[Cheeks]

That’s a perfect description of the 2018-2019 Marquette basketball team.

Cancer is a horrible ravaging disease, friends and family members have died from it.  The '18-'19 Marquette basketball team doesn't fit that description at all, let alone perfectly.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Cancer is a horrible ravaging disease, friends and family members have died from it.  The '18-'19 Marquette basketball team doesn't fit that description at all, let alone perfectly.

My uncle thought he was St. Jerome.