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So who fills the gaps?

Started by Markusquette, April 15, 2019, 12:51:38 PM

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Markusquette

With Torrence at guard being the only *potential* addition if he reclassifies, will Wojo be able to secure a couple of bigs via the immediate transfer market to fill two huge holes? The team is definitely unbalanced going into next year. What a gut punch.

D'Lo Brown

I mean. We were seriously unbalanced last year, too.

PGsHeroes32

Bailey better just work on corner 3s all off season. Take 500 a day.

Cain work on ball security.


We got far better athletes available. Now we gotta see if they can provide the skill.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey


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GoldenEagle323

We also have Akanno coming in dont forget

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Jockey on April 15, 2019, 12:56:15 PM
Guys that wanna be here.

I seem to recall Joey wanting to be at MU so bad, he skipped his last 5 months as a high school senior.

Warrior of Law

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 15, 2019, 01:57:14 PM
I seem to recall Joey wanting to be at MU so bad, he skipped his last 5 months as a high school senior.

And blew a year of eligibility...
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#UnleashSean


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: #UnleashCain on April 15, 2019, 02:00:40 PM
That he did not. Redshirt.

Joey will blow a year of eligibility with his transfer if he is unable to get a waiver. Since he willing redshirted a year that was fully in his control (he could have stayed in HS), who knows if the NCAA will give him that waiver.  He may very well burn a year of eligibility.  He likely thinks it wont matter because he'll be playing in the NBA.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on April 15, 2019, 12:58:47 PM
We also have Akanno coming in dont forget

Do you have any thoughts on the kid that decommitted about 3 hours ago from Northern Kentucky?
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nyg

I hope Cain works on his dribbling/ball handling and comes back and averages 10 and 5 off the bench.  The kid has been dumped on and now the door is open for him to play a major role as a reserve.  Ten times the athletic ability of Joey, so now is his coming out time.  Sometimes all a kid needs is a chance.  Again, I hope.

I hope Bailey does shoot those 500 a day corner threes.  Major, major, defensive upgrade.  If that outside shot continues as is, trouble. 

Need a PF grad transfer badly.  Foul issues on or current players probably not going to stop.

Akanno, who knows.  Have three guards, along with Sacar so should be fine.  Cain, Bailey and the grad transfer will be the keys to taking points/minutes from the missing Hausers. 

GoldenEagle323

Quote from: Loose Cannon on April 15, 2019, 02:09:40 PM
Do you have any thoughts on the kid that decommitted about 3 hours ago from Northern Kentucky?
I've seen him play and played against him, to be honest hes a poor mans sam hauser but i think with a more consistent jumper and a pull up

Loose Cannon

Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on April 15, 2019, 02:11:33 PM
I've seen him play and played against him, to be honest hes a poor mans sam hauser but i think with a more consistent jumper and a pull up

Thank you
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Markus will just take 10 more shots a game?

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Jockey

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 15, 2019, 01:57:14 PM
I seem to recall Joey wanting to be at MU so bad, he skipped his last 5 months as a high school senior.

What does that get us for next year? He don't wanna be here. Good Riddance.

I have no ill will towards either one. They should be able to go where they want. I hope they find happiness. But now that they are gone, I don't care where they go or how they do.

BCHoopster

MU might be better if they can get a real power forward who can get off his feet,  does not have to be great, just serviceable

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 15, 2019, 07:57:50 PM
MU might be better if they can get a real power forward who can get off his feet,  does not have to be great, just serviceable

We may see more of Ed and Theo playing together. Ed isn't an above the rim PF, but he's definitely a PF.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

dgies9156

A couple of thoughts and then I'll address the issue:

1) When I was in high school, we had two basketball players who were 6'11" and 6'9". Both were all-state and led our team to the state finals, where we lost to a Memphis team that moved across the street to Memphis State. Our guys went to the SEC and were never seen nor heard from again. The morale was in high school when you're that good, you only play against comparable talent a few times a year and in summer barnstorming. When you get to college, you play against talent that's up to you every night. Joey, particularly, found that out and apparently does not have the patience to learn the game at the college level. It takes time. It's also easier to blame your coach and/or teammates than it is to look inside yourself and see what you have to do to be a pro.

2) These guys were nuts in leaving. At worst, Markus has a year left. Work on your game. With a new point guard coming in, chances are the Hausers were going to get a lot more touches than this year. Especially if they really are open and can knock down the threes. They had a chance to create a legacy and be part of a Top5 to Top 10 team. Now, they're on the pine next year and if they go anyplace they mention except Wisconsin, they'll be part-time to occasional players until they learn the system and solve their weaknesses. If they go to Wisconsin, they have no chance of being part of anything that good.

Now for our program:

3) I have been a Wojo fan until today. As a coach, you're going to lose players. That's a fact of life. Everybody has at one point or another. Heck, for awhile, Iowa State was Marquette West. But the Hausers are two hallmark recruits from the State of Wisconsin who bolted. That can't happen and leads to a lot of the same questions we raised about the Cowboy (formerly the Hillbilly) when the Cowboy could not keep Vander Blue and had no point guard.

4) It's too late to fire Wojo but the heat under his seat just went to 1000 kelvin. If we don't replace the Hausers (yes, I agree, Brendan is one of the replacements but now we need depth) and we don't make the NCAA and win a game there, Wojo will be burned at the stake in front of Joan of Arc on a cold Saturday morning. No, not fired, burned at the stake. That's how big this is. Even the BOT and Dr. Lovell had to notice the revenue implication of this one.

5) Greg Gard woke up this morning and saw a goat, vis a vi recruiting in the State of Wisconsin. He'll go to bed seeing a stallion. Marquette's chances with the best in the state just went to 0. The best in the state are now either going out of state or to Bucky. And if the Hausers are successful at Bucky, maybe we should move the university to Michigan or Illinois!

6) Assuming no major line-up changes, I tend to agree Sacar and Brendan will play key roles in our success next year. Here's another idea: if Theo and Ed cut down on the fouls, what about having Ed Morrow as a power forward in the line-up at the same time as Theo. Two beasts on the boards. I wouldn't want to mix it up down there with those two! Put another way, "You have just been Theoed!"

7) I also think Greg Elliott and Jamal Cain will be key to our success.

Ultimately, if there was this much discord on the team between Markus and the Hausers, something had to give. That's on the coach to keep the egos and the outside influence in check. Wojo didn't and that's why I'm having serious concerns about his leadership. With this example, can we be effective recruiting the talent we need to in order to be a Top 10 team?

Time will tell.




StillAWarrior

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 15, 2019, 07:57:50 PM
MU... does not have to be great, just serviceable

Hoping that's not next year's team slogan.

"Marquette: not great, but serviceable!  Ladies and gentlemen, your 2019-20 Golden Eagles!"

Not looking forward to the Nike "Serviceable" team t-shirts.

Sorry...I'm honestly not that pessimistic. Just a little gallows humor.
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 15, 2019, 08:10:32 PM
A couple of thoughts and then I'll address the issue:

1) When I was in high school, we had two basketball players who were 6'11" and 6'9". Both were all-state and led our team to the state finals, where we lost to a Memphis team that moved across the street to Memphis State. Our guys went to the SEC and were never seen nor heard from again. The morale was in high school when you're that good, you only play against comparable talent a few times a year and in summer barnstorming. When you get to college, you play against talent that's up to you every night. Joey, particularly, found that out and apparently does not have the patience to learn the game at the college level. It takes time. It's also easier to blame your coach and/or teammates than it is to look inside yourself and see what you have to do to be a pro.

2) These guys were nuts in leaving. At worst, Markus has a year left. Work on your game. With a new point guard coming in, chances are the Hausers were going to get a lot more touches than this year. Especially if they really are open and can knock down the threes. They had a chance to create a legacy and be part of a Top5 to Top 10 team. Now, they're on the pine next year and if they go anyplace they mention except Wisconsin, they'll be part-time to occasional players until they learn the system and solve their weaknesses. If they go to Wisconsin, they have no chance of being part of anything that good.

Now for our program:

3) I have been a Wojo fan until today. As a coach, you're going to lose players. That's a fact of life. Everybody has at one point or another. Heck, for awhile, Iowa State was Marquette West. But the Hausers are two hallmark recruits from the State of Wisconsin who bolted. That can't happen and leads to a lot of the same questions we raised about the Cowboy (formerly the Hillbilly) when the Cowboy could not keep Vander Blue and had no point guard.

4) It's too late to fire Wojo but the heat under his seat just went to 1000 kelvin. If we don't replace the Hausers (yes, I agree, Brendan is one of the replacements but now we need depth) and we don't make the NCAA and win a game there, Wojo will be burned at the stake in front of Joan of Arc on a cold Saturday morning. No, not fired, burned at the stake. That's how big this is. Even the BOT and Dr. Lovell had to notice the revenue implication of this one.

5) Greg Gard woke up this morning and saw a goat, vis a vi recruiting in the State of Wisconsin. He'll go to bed seeing a stallion. Marquette's chances with the best in the state just went to 0. The best in the state are now either going out of state or to Bucky. And if the Hausers are successful at Bucky, maybe we should move the university to Michigan or Illinois!

6) Assuming no major line-up changes, I tend to agree Sacar and Brendan will play key roles in our success next year. Here's another idea: if Theo and Ed cut down on the fouls, what about having Ed Morrow as a power forward in the line-up at the same time as Theo. Two beasts on the boards. I wouldn't want to mix it up down there with those two! Put another way, "You have just been Theoed!"

7) I also think Greg Elliott and Jamal Cain will be key to our success.

Ultimately, if there was this much discord on the team between Markus and the Hausers, something had to give. That's on the coach to keep the egos and the outside influence in check. Wojo didn't and that's why I'm having serious concerns about his leadership. With this example, can we be effective recruiting the talent we need to in order to be a Top 10 team?

Time will tell.

It's hard to argue with any of this.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

WarriorFan

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 15, 2019, 08:10:32 PM


6) Assuming no major line-up changes, I tend to agree Sacar and Brendan will play key roles in our success next year. Here's another idea: if Theo and Ed cut down on the fouls, what about having Ed Morrow as a power forward in the line-up at the same time as Theo. Two beasts on the boards. I wouldn't want to mix it up down there with those two! Put another way, "You have just been Theoed!"


Let's see Ed develop that Jumper he dreams about.  If he could hit 1-2 per game then he could play alongside Theo.

I'd also like to see Greg/Jamal/Brendan/Koby/Markus play small ball with full court pressure, trapping defense, and run, run, run.  Probably Markus is too slow for that arrangement... maybe Akanno instead?
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MU82

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 15, 2019, 08:10:32 PM
Here's another idea: if Theo and Ed cut down on the fouls, what about having Ed Morrow as a power forward in the line-up at the same time as Theo. Two beasts on the boards. I wouldn't want to mix it up down there with those two! Put another way, "You have just been Theoed!"

From what we saw last year, Ed's shooting range is about 1 foot. And even that was no sure thing. Purely from an offensive standpoint, talk about a 180 degree difference between Ed and Joey. Playing two guys who can't shoot a lick at the same time definitely would be bucking today's college basketball landscape.

Plus, I don't see how our depth lets both Ed and Theo start. The way they both commit fouls, we need both at the 5, with one available to sub for the other. Combined, they actually were a decent-to-good 5. I'd hate to mess with that. In a pinch, we could play Joey or even Sam at the 5. Sources tell me that we won't be able to do that any more.

Otherwise, it's hard to argue with any of your post, dg.
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Warning...Wisconsin natives turn away please....(and know I'm just as down on Chicago area basketball leading anyone to the promised land )

Dgies says "the best in the state are now going out of state or to Bucky."

Other than Racine's own Jim Chones and a couple of talented kids coached by Bo Ryan under a rigid system, just how many WI kids have led teams very far? Wojo is correct in noting how skilled and well-coached WI kids are, but I don't think any of them are blowing people away with their talent. I'd bet in private Wojo would admit that you can't recruit primarily in WI and win big at the highest levels. Wojo has plenty of bonafides to expand his recruiting base. The next few weeks will be crucial indeed. I wouldn't bet against Coach or our program.
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