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Started by Don_Kojis, April 01, 2019, 01:44:19 PM

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TallTitan34

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 09:27:11 AM
Time for us to accept that the new Big East isn't all that respected. Sure it's a cute little basketball conference but definitely well behind the big 4. VaTech is bottom of barrel job in ACC and is on Verge of poaching two big east coaches.

KenPom Conference Rankings Since The New Big East Began
2019: 5th
2018: 3rd
2017: 3rd
2016: 3rd
2015: 2nd
2014: 5th

StillAWarrior

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 09:31:14 AM
KenPom Conference Rankings Since The New Big East Began
2019: 5th
2018: 3rd
2017: 3rd
2016: 3rd
2015: 2nd
2014: 5th

Also, two national championships.

It was undeniably a down year for the Big East this year.  But I think it's probably a little premature to bury the conference.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 09:34:53 AM
Also, two national championships.

It was undeniably a down year for the Big East this year.  But I think it's probably a little premature to bury the conference.

Agreed, I am a bit concerned about some of the $ these $crap schools in the power football conferences are throwing at coaches though. If the BEast can't pony up to match over time, it will become a coaching feeder conference for the majors.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 09:27:11 AM
Time for us to accept that the new Big East isn't all that respected. Sure it's a cute little basketball conference but definitely well behind the big 4. VaTech is bottom of barrel job in ACC and is on Verge of poaching two big east coaches.
It more has to do with the TV money the ACC gets because of football. Also, the new ACC Network that starts in fall.
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TallTitan34

Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on April 03, 2019, 09:50:04 AM
We are in the field with Texas A&M in the Orlando Invitational next season

I mean ESPN has to make that a first round matchup right?  Buzz vs old school?

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Hubert Davis on April 03, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
Hey guys, it's me, Dick Strong. I am indeed a billionaire and very happy for Buzz.

gotta love dick's parents for choice of names, eyn'a?  whatya name the 2nd born?  ...this is my other brother dick?
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Interesting wrinkle to the Buzz to TAMU story. TAMU hired Jeff Reynolds as an assistant coach last summer. Reynolds most recent stop was as Director of Scouting at Virginia Tech. Possible that Reynolds was sent there ahead of Buzz to do some recruiting?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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WarriorDad

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 09:27:11 AM
Time for us to accept that the new Big East isn't all that respected. Sure it's a cute little basketball conference but definitely well behind the big 4. VaTech is bottom of barrel job in ACC and is on Verge of poaching two big east coaches.

For most of its existence it has not been behind the big 4.  Without football money this is the best we are going to do, so make the best of it.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
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KampusFoods

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 03, 2019, 10:23:43 AM
Interesting wrinkle to the Buzz to TAMU story. TAMU hired Jeff Reynolds as an assistant coach last summer. Reynolds most recent stop was as Director of Scouting at Virginia Tech. Possible that Reynolds was sent there ahead of Buzz to do some recruiting?

Isaac Chew was there until January as well (left for personal reasons). Nothing Buzz does surprises me.

MomofMUltiples

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 03, 2019, 10:23:43 AM
Interesting wrinkle to the Buzz to TAMU story. TAMU hired Jeff Reynolds as an assistant coach last summer. Reynolds most recent stop was as Director of Scouting at Virginia Tech. Possible that Reynolds was sent there ahead of Buzz to do some recruiting?

Could be - but Chew was also an assistant coach there who left the team for "family reasons" a while ago.  Some suspect that he was the conduit through which Buzz talked to A&M officials.
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esotericmindguy

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 09:31:14 AM
KenPom Conference Rankings Since The New Big East Began
2019: 5th
2018: 3rd
2017: 3rd
2016: 3rd
2015: 2nd
2014: 5th

That's my point, it doesn't matter. Coaches want to be in the power 4 conferences. It's pretty obvious.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 09:27:11 AM
Time for us to accept that the new Big East isn't all that respected. Sure it's a cute little basketball conference but definitely well behind the big 4. VaTech is bottom of barrel job in ACC and is on Verge of poaching two big east coaches.

Assuming Willard goes to Blacksburg you leave out an important fact about these coaching hires: both guys were running away from something.

It's easier to "poach" when the animal walks into your trap voluntarily.

leever

My, my......that Buzz Williams can sure recruit and coach some!

And he gets the guys to play like their hair is on fire.

Seriously, he's a winner.  Doubt he'll stay 5 years at this stop.

Pakuni

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 10:32:08 AM
That's my point, it doesn't matter. Coaches want to be in the power 4 conferences. It's pretty obvious.

Did you just make up the term Power 4 conferences?

TallTitan34

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 03, 2019, 10:23:43 AM
Interesting wrinkle to the Buzz to TAMU story. TAMU hired Jeff Reynolds as an assistant coach last summer. Reynolds most recent stop was as Director of Scouting at Virginia Tech. Possible that Reynolds was sent there ahead of Buzz to do some recruiting?

Virginia Tech people agree with you.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Buzz-SENT-Reynolds-to-TAMU-one-year-ago-130836143/

MU B2002

Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 10:43:20 AM
Did you just make up the term Power 4 conferences?


Yes, he no longer considers Big East a Power Conference, so now there are only 4.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 10:32:08 AM
That's my point, it doesn't matter. Coaches want to be in the power 4 conferences. It's pretty obvious.

So far three "New" Big East coaches have been "poached" by power 4 conferences.

Buzz was running from Marquette.
Chris Holtmann was poached from Butler to Ohio State. So he was going from a top 40ish program to a top 15 program.
Chris Mack was poached from Xavier to Louisville. So he was going from a top 25ish program to a top 10 program.

None of these are really examples of coaches "wanting to be in the Power 4 conferences". One is an example of an employee wanting a change of scenery. The other two are examples of coaches leaving worse jobs for better ones. I assume "Power 4" doesn't include the PAC 12. Jamie Dixon is leaving the "Power 4" Big 12 for the Pac 12. Why? Because UCLA is a better program than TCU.

If Wojo were to go to VT (I highly doubt it) then you might be on to something. If Willard goes to VT that's a lateral move at worse, likely for more money.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Tha Hound

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 09:27:11 AM
Time for us to accept that the new Big East isn't all that respected. Sure it's a cute little basketball conference but definitely well behind the big 4. VaTech is bottom of barrel job in ACC and is on Verge of poaching two big east coaches.

This is sarcastic, right?

forgetful

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 10:46:07 AM
Virginia Tech people agree with you.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Buzz-SENT-Reynolds-to-TAMU-one-year-ago-130836143/

I've seen reports that Buzz was already letting people know (including apparently a recruit) that he wasn't going to be staying at VPI very long.

So this planting seeds at TAMU line of rumors likely has some legs.

Pakuni

Quote from: MU B2002 on April 03, 2019, 10:48:09 AM

Yes, he no longer considers Big East a Power Conference, so now there are only 4.

So, I know the Pac 12 has been bad of late, but is that also a mid-major conference these days?

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 10:43:20 AM
Did you just make up the term Power 4 conferences?

I believe he did.

"Power Five" refers to football and NCAA legislation purposes. Autonomy legislation applies to them, for the rest, it's permissive legislation.  However, in basketball, it is common to refer to the "Power Six" with the Big East included.

In a down year the Big East got three at-large bids. They did not need a team to run the table in the conference tournament to get an additional bid, as the Pac-12 did.

People complain about the money the "Power Five" conferences have but it doesn't equate to success in basketball. Throwing money at coaches doesn't make programs better than MU, Nova, etc.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 03, 2019, 10:23:43 AM
Interesting wrinkle to the Buzz to TAMU story. TAMU hired Jeff Reynolds as an assistant coach last summer. Reynolds most recent stop was as Director of Scouting at Virginia Tech. Possible that Reynolds was sent there ahead of Buzz to do some recruiting?

Chew coached with Kennedy at Murray State. Reynolds and Chew are close. 

That said, when Buzz quit MU, still under contract MU assistants (and soon to be VPI assistants) were seen trying to take recruiting books out of The Al, and Cords then locked them all out except Jerry.

TallTitan34


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