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JWags85

Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 30, 2019, 09:46:54 PM
Also that's former Marquette opponent Amir Garrett on the mound landing a few haymakers.

Garrett's story is so wild. Literally was/is naturally so good at baseball, he got drafted and a 7 figure signing bonus off a pro day even though he didn't play baseball his senior year at Findlay Prep because they didn't have a team, and he wasn't exactly decorated on the diamond leading up to that. AND got the Reds blessing to keep playing basketball. Remarkable

buckchuckler

Such an interesting trade for the Indians and Reds. 

CreightonWarrior

Puig is clearly going to be suspended. Do the Indians go through with the trade?

Cheeks

Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 30, 2019, 10:31:10 PM
I believe he was pulled and came back out.

According to this article he was still in the game which is odd the Reds would do that.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27290718/puig-reds-ejected-part-big-brawl
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

JWags85

Quote from: Cheeks on July 31, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
According to this article he was still in the game which is odd the Reds would do that.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27290718/puig-reds-ejected-part-big-brawl

Bell had been ejected by that point I think.  Maybe his focus or attention wasn't there.

And the Indians 100% are still going through with the trade.  A 3 game suspension won't deter that.  They are 3 games back in the division and leading the wild card.  They got him for an October push.

MUBurrow

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 30, 2019, 11:12:43 PM
Such an interesting trade for the Indians and Reds.

To the Reds credit, they have made the hot stove much more interesting over the past year or two. I don't necessarily want the Brewers front office to operate like the Reds or say the Mariners, but the player movement market would be less interesting without them.

muwarrior69

#781
Quote from: dgies9156 on July 27, 2019, 06:38:49 PM
Agree to disagree. That team was a damn machine.

So was the '49-'53 Yankees winning 5 WS straight. In fact the Yankees won 10 WS in an 18 year span only missing the WS in '48, '54 and '59. Now there is a real machine winning consistently.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on July 31, 2019, 10:32:28 AM
So was the '49-'53 Yankees winning 5 WS straight. Can the damn machine boast that?

I would argue that the Yankees winning four in five years from 1996-2000 was a more impressive feat. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Point is, the Yankees have had several teams better than the 1975-76 Reds.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

muwarrior69

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 31, 2019, 10:38:34 AM
I would argue that the Yankees winning four in five years from 1996-2000 was a more impressive feat.

I would agree with you now with all the playoff games and they almost beat the Diamondbacks in 2001. That '98 team was pretty impressive if not the greatest team ever.

muwarrior69

#785
Quote from: MU82 on July 31, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
Point is, the Yankees have had several teams better than the 1975-76 Reds.

Cannot argue with that, though that Reds team was one outstanding team. I believe if it was not for free agency the Reds could have had one or two more WS during that time.

buckchuckler

Aguilar to the Rays for Jake Faria.  Kind of a cool trade for each team.  Rays get the bat, Brewers get an arm.  Each experiencing a down year, each with some upside.

Pakuni

Bumgarner?

Robert Murray @ByRobertMurray
#Brewers and #SFGiants in agreement on significant trade, sources tell The Athletic. Mauricio Dubon to San Francisco.

buckchuckler

Quote from: Pakuni on July 31, 2019, 01:22:11 PM
Bumgarner?

Robert Murray @ByRobertMurray
#Brewers and #SFGiants in agreement on significant trade, sources tell The Athletic. Mauricio Dubon to San Francisco.

Can't wait.  Wow.  Has to be pretty significant.  Could be a combo or relievers too.  Something like that.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on July 31, 2019, 01:22:11 PM
Bumgarner?

Robert Murray @ByRobertMurray
#Brewers and #SFGiants in agreement on significant trade, sources tell The Athletic. Mauricio Dubon to San Francisco.

Drew Pomeranz.

Terrible.  I'd assume there has to be more coming back to Milwaukee.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: wadesworld on July 31, 2019, 01:28:07 PM
Drew Pomeranz.

Terrible.  I'd assume there has to be more coming back to Milwaukee.
Yikes

buckchuckler

Pomeranz and Ray Black.  Seems like a lot to give up for those guys. 

wadesworld

Quote from: buckchuckler on July 31, 2019, 01:32:54 PM
Pomeranz and Ray Black.  Seems like a lot to give up for those guys.

Sure does.  Pomeranz has been great since moving to the bullpen.  A whopping 5.1 inning sample size.  The Brewers love themselves very average pitching this season.  Stearns is just gathering up every pitcher with a 4.50-6.00 ERA.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: wadesworld on July 31, 2019, 01:34:48 PM
Sure does.  Pomeranz has been great since moving to the bullpen.  A whopping 5.1 inning sample size.  The Brewers love themselves very average pitching this season.  Stearns is just gathering up every pitcher with a 4.50-6.00 ERA.
That's really bad.

TallTitan34

#794
@sabermetrics
Among 153 pitchers with at least 150 IP in the last two seasons, Drew Pomeranz's ERA ranks 152nd (5.87).

@sabermetrics
Pomeranz has also allowed the...
Highest OPS
Highest BAbip
Second-highest BA
Second-highest OBP
Seventh-highest SLG

MUBurrow

Ray Black has to be the real target here, right? He's under team control through 2025 (not sure how as he's 29, without doing much looking I think he's just been hurt all the time?) and can hit 100 on the gun.  If he can stay anything close to healthy, he might be an asset in the bullpen for a long time... but your #3 prospect still seems like a lot of risk for what is already the worst ranked farm system in baseball. There is value in volume, and the Brewers are are running on empty.

The Sultan

Is Dubron really that much of a prospect?  He's doing well at AAA no doubt, but he's 25 and older than Arcia.  And with Arcia still not hitting arbitration, and Hiura locked in at second for the next half-decade, there was not much room for him in Milwaukee.

Of course that doesn't mean this is a good trade.  I just don't know if the Brewers really thought Dubron had much of a future here.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TallTitan34

Castellanos just left the on-deck circle.

TallTitan34


jsglow

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 31, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
Is Dubron really that much of a prospect?  He's doing well at AAA no doubt, but he's 25 and older than Arcia.  And with Arcia still not hitting arbitration, and Hiura locked in at second for the next half-decade, there was not much room for him in Milwaukee.

Of course that doesn't mean this is a good trade.  I just don't know if the Brewers really thought Dubron had much of a future here.
Quote from: MUBurrow on July 31, 2019, 02:28:04 PM
Ray Black has to be the real target here, right? He's under team control through 2025 (not sure how as he's 29, without doing much looking I think he's just been hurt all the time?) and can hit 100 on the gun.  If he can stay anything close to healthy, he might be an asset in the bullpen for a long time... but your #3 prospect still seems like a lot of risk for what is already the worst ranked farm system in baseball. There is value in volume, and the Brewers are are running on empty.

I think you guys may have hit on it. Pomeranz is strictly a rental to get a few turns in the rotation.  He'll be gone next year.  Black is under control for what amounts to the rest of his career. And Dubon was totally blocked.  Now whether getting more was possible, we'll never know.  But obviously Stearns didn't think so.

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