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cheebs09

Quote from: Jockey on June 13, 2019, 05:18:45 PM
He was the one that didn't need to be exposed to waivers by being sent down.

I think Shaw still has an option.

Cheeks

When men were men...235 pitches by one pitcher in a game.  Go Halos.  #NolanRyan


https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-ryan-threw-235-pitches-in-one-game
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Are men not men anymore? What happened?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Dish

Eloy is just murdering baseballs this month, good lord.

Cheeks

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 14, 2019, 08:41:54 PM
Are men not men anymore? What happened?

Ask some of the ladies.....
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Cheeks on June 14, 2019, 09:38:52 PM
Ask some of the ladies.....

I did. They said men are still men and better than ever.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


The Sultan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 14, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
I did. They said men are still men and better than ever.

Apparently the ladies that deal with Cheeks feel otherwise.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jsglow


CTWarrior

Quote from: Cheeks on June 14, 2019, 06:48:35 PM
When men were men...235 pitches by one pitcher in a game.  Go Halos.  #NolanRyan


https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-ryan-threw-235-pitches-in-one-game
They mentioned this during the Red Sox game Friday night.  Apparently Tiant threw at least 165 pitches (14 1/3 innings)so the starters combined to throw at least 400 pitches.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Cheeks

Quote from: CTWarrior on June 16, 2019, 06:39:06 AM
They mentioned this during the Red Sox game Friday night.  Apparently Tiant threw at least 165 pitches (14 1/3 innings)so the starters combined to throw at least 400 pitches.

Correct.


Also, Ryan came back on his typical three day rest after the 235 pitches and won the next start.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

LloydsLegs

Quote from: MUDish on June 14, 2019, 09:21:32 PM
Eloy is just murdering baseballs this month, good lord.

And having fun doing it.  Love this core.

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 15, 2019, 10:34:52 AM
Apparently the ladies that deal with Cheeks feel otherwise.

Married 20+ years.  Doing just fine.   Meanwhile I am supposed to be happy these days if my starting pitcher goes 6 innings every fifth day.  Yikes
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 14, 2019, 08:41:54 PM
Are men not men anymore? What happened?

Chico longs for those wonderful days of yesteryear - when men were men - and sheep were nervous.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Cheeks on June 14, 2019, 06:48:35 PM
When men were men...235 pitches by one pitcher in a game.  Go Halos.  #NolanRyan


https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-ryan-threw-235-pitches-in-one-game

When pitchers made less in a year than they make in one poor start today.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Cheeks on June 16, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
Married 20+ years.  Doing just fine.   Meanwhile I am supposed to be happy these days if my starting pitcher goes 6 innings every fifth day.  Yikes

You can derive happiness from whatever you want. Games change. It's neither good nor bad.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TallTitan34


CTWarrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 16, 2019, 11:03:28 PM
Chico longs for those wonderful days of yesteryear - when men were men - and sheep were nervous.

I think it is different for everybody, but I think baseball was at its best for fans in the 70s and early 80s.  Right mix of talent and strategy.  All different types of players excelled as there were many ways to win ball games.  You had speed guys like Omar Moreno or Bill North stealing 70+ bases, power guys hitting 40+ homers like Mike Schmidt, Jim Rice and George Foster, average guys hitting .330 or better like Rod Carew and George Brett, great defenders like Garry Maddox and Mark Belanger, great all around players like Joe Morgan, Bobby Bonds and Fred Lynn, Durable aces who threw hard (Ryan, Jenkins, Carlton) or soft (Wood, Niekro) and relief aces/firemen (not closers) who pitched multiple innings when the need was greatest regardless of inning like Fingers, Gossage and Quisenberry.

Today's game with so many walks, strikeouts and home runs with the proliferation of relief pitchers is probably strategically best, but it not nearly as interesting to watch, IMO.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

HouWarrior

Quote from: CTWarrior on June 18, 2019, 03:19:43 PM
I think it is different for everybody, but I think baseball was at its best for fans in the 70s and early 80s.  Right mix of talent and strategy. 
Well...OK ....but

1972 saw the first players strike...and a big drop off in fan popularity. In this time period....NFL rose while MLB fell off....so... to generate interest the AL adopted the DH rule, softball unis, and lots of fan gimmicks...think Disco Demolition Night

The 70s were the time of building many cookie cutter big concrete pad ballparks covered in AstroTurf...all of which were later roundly rejected

Free agency impacted rosters and lots of teams fell on hard times. A very few enjoyed success but  many began to flounder as they learned the new system...the hard way. More player movement ...but fans deep connections with entire  team rosters (think 50s 60s) was gone forever.

A's Reds, Royals, Pirates even Tigers prospered but not much since

You are in the pre steroid period...so athletic achievement/stats weren't tainted like the next decades

...but speed/coke was prevalent during your time window....so this time seemed to go by quickly...for all of us 

Dan Epstein wrote on this period in  "Big Hair and Plastic Grass: A Funky Ride through Baseball and America in the Swinging '70s." :
"Nobody hit .400 in a season, or won 30 or more games. Only one player -- George Foster in 1977 -- managed to hit more than 50 home runs in a season," ... "But in those categories that continue to defy statisticians -- weirdness, hairiness, overall funkiness, and sheer amusement -- the 1970s still tower over every other decade before or since."
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Pakuni

Quote from: houwarrior on June 18, 2019, 05:15:35 PM
Dan Epstein wrote on this period in  "Big Hair and Plastic Grass: A Funky Ride through Baseball and America in the Swinging '70s." :
"Nobody hit .400 in a season, or won 30 or more games. Only one player -- George Foster in 1977 -- managed to hit more than 50 home runs in a season," ... "But in those categories that continue to defy statisticians -- weirdness, hairiness, overall funkiness, and sheer amusement -- the 1970s still tower over every other decade before or since."

Fantastic book.

You somehow forgot to mention Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich in your recollection of 70s baseball.

ZiggysFryBoy


HouWarrior

Quote from: Pakuni on June 18, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
Fantastic book.

You somehow forgot to mention Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich in your recollection of 70s baseball.
lol ...one of MLB's most unique "trades" ever...

also...

Mark "the Bird" Fydrich,

Bill Spaceman Lee

Doc Ellis' no no on LSD,

Harvey's Wallbangers (...incl. 8balls w/Paul Molitor, Ben Ogilvy and Gorman Thomas...limitations has expired on such antics)
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Pakuni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on June 18, 2019, 05:45:26 PM
Foul balls ricocheting off of empty seats is very dangerous.


Jockey

Quote from: houwarrior on June 18, 2019, 05:15:35 PM
Well...OK ....but

Dan Epstein wrote on this period in  "Big Hair and Plastic Grass: A Funky Ride through Baseball and America in the Swinging '70s." :
"Nobody hit .400 in a season, or won 30 or more games. Only one player -- George Foster in 1977 -- managed to hit more than 50 home runs in a season," ... "But in those categories that continue to defy statisticians -- weirdness, hairiness, overall funkiness, and sheer amusement -- the 1970s still tower over every other decade before or since."


Was looking through my 70's baseball cards last week - lotta perms happenin' in the mid to late 70's.

Cheeks

Quote from: Jockey on June 18, 2019, 08:27:54 PM

Was looking through my 70's baseball cards last week - lotta perms happenin' in the mid to late 70's.

Oscar Gamble sticks in my head
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

buckchuckler

#549
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on June 18, 2019, 05:45:26 PM
Foul balls ricocheting off of empty seats is very dangerous.

Balls ricocheting all over the place.

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Not bad for a jam job broken bat pop up.  Love Benetti's call of "Thanks Cubs"

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