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#UnleashSean

Quote from: panda on May 19, 2019, 11:29:13 AM
Not even remotely close to the same thing.

Both are a step towards the plate while in motion. They are very much the same thing.

panda

Toe tap vs. foot plant are completely different and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

TallTitan34

Quote from: panda on May 19, 2019, 05:23:37 PM
Toe tap vs. foot plant are completely different and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

Then why was Cory Gearrin of the Mariners also deemed to have an illegal motion when he does a toe tap?

TallTitan34

Personally, I think they all should be illegal as you are stopping your pitching motion when you do it.

panda

A blatant start and stop is much different than a subtle (rarely touching the ground) toe tap. One is gamesmanship, which up to umpire discretion can be stopped, and one stop and start motion which is blatantly illegal.

I have no problem if you say that you like Maddon standing up for his guy, but to try and debate whether or not what Edwards does is legal is laughable.

panda


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TallTitan34

Quote from: panda on May 19, 2019, 08:12:59 PM
but to try and debate whether or not what Edwards does is legal is laughable.

I agreed above that Edwards' motion should be illegal along with the others. Carl definitely pauses significantly longer but they all pause.  You can't stop your motion once you start.

jsglow

Well, I find this very interesting.  Not sure where the line is in terms of legality but what Edwards does (at least according to the clips I've seen) surely isn't.  That's a start and stop for sure.  Now what we do need is more Luis Tiant.  That dude was freakin' cool.

TallTitan34

I would like to know MLB's reasoning behind deeming Cory Gearrin's move illegal and Sean Doolitle's move legal.  Those moves are much more comparable than Doolittle's and Edwards'.

Dish

At Petco tonight for Dbacks/Pads. First time here, what a gem of a stadium. Might be my second favorite after SF.

Cheeks

Quote from: MUDish on May 20, 2019, 08:32:00 PM
At Petco tonight for Dbacks/Pads. First time here, what a gem of a stadium. Might be my second favorite after SF.

It is one of five best in my opinion and I've been to most.  The crack nachos are very good.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

Quote from: jsglow on May 20, 2019, 07:56:43 AM
Now what we do need is more Luis Tiant.  That dude was freakin' cool.

Yes he was.

Fernando Valenzuela was, too.
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CTWarrior

Quote from: MUDish on May 20, 2019, 08:32:00 PM
At Petco tonight for Dbacks/Pads. First time here, what a gem of a stadium. Might be my second favorite after SF.
I was a little less enamored with Petco.  Feels like it was designed to be quirky for the sake of being quirky.  Agree with you about SF, though, that place is fantastic.  Pittsburgh and SF my two favorites, but I still have 7 to go.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

TallTitan34

#289
Just curious, how would you guys rank the ballparks you've been to?

For me:
1) Wrigley (now that the renovations are complete)
2) New Busch
3) Minute Maid
4) Miller
5) New Yankee
6) Guaranteed Rate
7) Progressive
8) Target
9) Old Busch
10) Citi
11) Old Yankee
12) Shea
13) Astrodrome
14) Tropicana

EDIT: Forgot Cleveland

withoutbias

Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 21, 2019, 09:43:37 AM
Just curious, how would you guys rank the ballparks you've been to?

For me:
1) Wrigley (now that the renovations are complete)
2) New Busch
3) Minute Maid
4) Miller
5) New Yankee
6) Guaranteed Rate
7) Target
8) Old Busch
9) Citi
10) Old Yankee
11) Shea
12) Astrodrome
13) Tropicana

LOL!

TallTitan34

Quote from: WithoutBias on May 21, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
LOL!

Just curious, when's the last time you were at Wrigley?

WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 21, 2019, 10:07:56 AM
Just curious, when's the last time you were at Wrigley?

I'm going tonight.  I go by myself and usually make it to one Tuesday game a month.

I bought a ticket last week, figuring it would either be 80 degrees or 45 and rainy.  I also don't have a smartphone-- try buying a Cubs ticket without a fucking smartphone; it's not very easy.

WI inferiority Complexes

#293
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 21, 2019, 09:43:37 AM
Just curious, how would you guys rank the ballparks you've been to?

For me:
1) Wrigley (now that the renovations are complete)
2) New Busch
3) Minute Maid
4) Miller
5) New Yankee
6) Guaranteed Rate
7) Target
8) Old Busch
9) Citi
10) Old Yankee
11) Shea
12) Astrodrome
13) Tropicana

It's tough to put Wrigley somewhere, because I root for the home team.  The rest:
1. Old Tiger Stadium (I was 8, but I still think about it)
2. Miller Park
3. The old Comiskey Park (the pre 1990-building.  We had season tix when I was a kid)
4. Current St. Louis Stadium
5. Current White Sox park
6. Fenway
7. County Stadium
8. Nationals Park
9. Current Tigers Park

I forgot I went to Fenway.  It was neat, but not the "Mecca" it was supposed to be.

TallTitan34

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on May 21, 2019, 10:21:04 AM
It's tough to put Wrigley somewhere, because I root for the home team.

Right.  I couldn't fault someone for liking their home park the best since that's where all their best memories likely are and what they know the best.  Even if you are a Rays fan haha.

The Sultan

Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on May 21, 2019, 10:13:54 AM
I also don't have a smartphone-- try buying a Cubs ticket without a unnatural carnal knowledgeing smartphone; it's not very easy.


Just a thought, but you may want to join the 21st century.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 21, 2019, 10:34:43 AM

Just a thought, but you may want to join the 21st century.

There is a rather large number of people in their 60's and 70's that don't own a smartphone.  This was my concern about Fiserv going the direction they were.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Sultan

Quote from: Cheeks on May 21, 2019, 11:06:34 AM
There is a rather large number of people in their 60's and 70's that don't own a smartphone.  This was my concern about Fiserv going the direction they were.


They should get one.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WI inferiority Complexes


The Sultan

No I just think in today's day and age people should use one.  Or stop complaining about the businesses that decide to use the technology. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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