What must Wojo do to keep his job?

[mileskishnish72]

The Wojo haters are calling for his head now. The fervent Wojo supporters think the frist group is crazy. Those in between basically support Wojo and have seen progress, but feel its too slow and note some disturbing weaknesses in certain aspects of coaching.

It seems pretty much agreed that he is not going anywhere at this point and will have next year here to add to his body of work. Where should the bar be set?

[jesmu84]

For me, I can pick just one of those.

What if he has a losing record, puts together a BET title and wins a 12-5 game as the 12.

Is that a good season?

I will continue to make my personal assessment on the whole body of work

[Cheeks]

For me, I can pick just one of those.

What if he has a losing record, puts together a BET title and wins a 12-5 game as the 12.

Is that a good season?

I will continue to make my personal assessment on the whole body of work

Wow, you and I are connected today.  Scary. 

It feels like some of our fans want Steve Lavin at UCLA to come in.  Have a crap year, get hot in the conf tournament and win a game or two in the NCAAs and that's all that matters. 

[CountryRoads]

I voted NCAA bid, but I feel his seat his is ice cold with the admin regardless barring a catastrophic collapse next year (ie last place BE finish). He wouldn't be fired if we miss the tournament but I think he'd bail to a place like UNLV (might happen this year).

I think we should give Wojo more time and full support because it would not be good to fire a coach who is having decent success here and would make it hard to attract good candidates when we eventually need a new coach.

Let's not forget, he was a coach of the year candidate about a month ago.

[PVMagic]

Let's not forget, he was a coach of the year candidate about a month ago.

only because Jay Wright is conspiring to get him to stick around for easy wins

[jesmu84]

Wow, you and I are connected today.  Scary. 

It feels like some of our fans want Steve Lavin at UCLA to come in.  Have a crap year, get hot in the conf tournament and win a game or two in the NCAAs and that's all that matters.

Cheeks, when it comes to generational discussions or politics, you and I aren't on the same page, let alone chapter or book.

With regards to MU and the bball program, I think we're pretty darn close.

Scary indeed.

[shoothoops]

As Adrian said coming out of the coma in the movie Rocky, "Win."

There isn't one thing he needs to do. It's the same list I provided in the other thread. There are overall long term expectations.

Now after 5 years.....

Annual (almost) NCAA's next year included.

2nd weekend every few years.

deeper run every long while

no off court issues

better conference tourney results

top 5 league finishes, challenging for league title every few years.

Next year? Make the dance? How is recruiting going at that time? expectations can and do change during a season too.

[Bad_Reporter]

As Adrian said coming out of the coma in the movie Rocky, "Win."

There isn't one thing he needs to do. It's the same list I provided in the other thread. There are overall long term expectations.

Now after 5 years.....

Annual (almost) NCAA's next year included.

2nd weekend every few years.

deeper run every long while

no off court issues

better conference tourney results

top 5 league finishes, challenging for league title every few years.

Next year? Make the dance? How is recruiting going at that time? expectations can and do change during a season too.

Are you watching Rocky 2 on BBC right now as well?

[shoothoops]

Are you watching Rocky 2 on BBC right now as well?

Lol, no actually. I'm not. But all of the Rocky's are seemingly on all the time. I enjoy most of them. My Rocky comment was probably made because we can all talk and talk about Wojo and his job. But the simple answer is if he wins he stays. And then that image of Adrian and the dinging music when she says win, seemed like the best way to simplify it. Enjoy the movie.

[brewcity77]

I think my expectation is 27+ total wins. I think next year's team should fulfill the promise we had on the morning of February 27.

[GoldenWarrior11]

The biggest disappointment over the last month is not just the losses; it's how the team lost.  The team crumbled late in many of the games, and against Murray State, got embarrassed on national television in the biggest game of our season.  If the team went out swinging and gave it all they had, it would have made the end easier to swallow. 

Next year, a deep tournament run will not make or break the season; but if the team continues to lose the way it has, especially to close out the season, I think it would be fair to have an honest assessment of where the program is at.

[Jon]

Are you watching Rocky 2 on BBC right now as well?

Well f#cking played, my friend. Outstanding.

[Cheeks]

Cheeks, when it comes to generational discussions or politics, you and I aren't on the same page, let alone chapter or book.

With regards to MU and the bball program, I think we're pretty darn close.

Scary indeed.

Smooch.  You would be surprised by a few things we are aligned on in the other categories, too.....but I can't divulge in order to maintain my bonafides.  😘

[rocky_warrior]

I think my expectation is 27+ total wins. I think next year's team should fulfill the promise we had on the morning of February 27.

Generally agree.  Though under-performing regular season, tourney bid and a couple wins could be good enough too.  All depends on situations and how the whole season works out.

[f/k/a humanlung]

I would be perfectly happy to see some of the deficiencies that have gone uncorrected for the first five years go away.  I don't care what the record is, how far we get in any tournament, etc..

To see Wojo fix issues with team defense (sorry, it still needs a lot of work), opponent game prep and in-game adjustments would remove me from the ranks of those criticizing him.

He can clearly recruit and runs a clean program and if he can fix the above, the rest will take care of itself.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think Wojo's job needs "saving" in the normal sense, but they are very high expectations for next season. If he doesn't deliver, that's a problem. I'm not sure how much he would need to under perform to get fired, but there is a line that if cross would lead to him getting fired. I'm not sure where the line is or should be, but it's probably lower than most scoopers expect.

[tower912]

Finish a season that started 23-4 with something better than 1-6.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I don't think Wojo's job needs "saving" in the normal sense, but they are very high expectations for next season. If he doesn't deliver, that's a problem. I'm not sure how much he would need to under perform to get fired, but there is a line that if cross would lead to him getting fired. I'm not sure where the line is or should be, but it's probably lower than most scoopers expect.

+1

[muguru]

I don't think Wojo's job needs "saving" in the normal sense, but they are very high expectations for next season. If he doesn't deliver, that's a problem. I'm not sure how much he would need to under perform to get fired, but there is a line that if cross would lead to him getting fired. I'm not sure where the line is or should be, but it's probably lower than most scoopers expect.

Weren't they also very high this year?? afterall this was the best team he has had in his time at MU, and the BE was down.

[Cheeks]

Weren't they also very high this year?? afterall this was the best team he has had in his time at MU, and the BE was down.

Picked 2nd, finished 2nd. Picked for NCAAs, made NCAAs.

[muguru]

Picked 2nd, finished 2nd. Picked for NCAAs, made NCAAs.

LOL Okay Chicos...you do you man, you do you.

[willie warrior]

The Wojo haters are calling for his head now. The fervent Wojo supporters think the frist group is crazy. Those in between basically support Wojo and have seen progress, but feel its too slow and note some disturbing weaknesses in certain aspects of coaching.

It seems pretty much agreed that he is not going anywhere at this point and will have next year here to add to his body of work. Where should the bar be set?

Interesting phraseology "wojo haters". Exsctly what is a Wojo hater? Is that someone that is frustrated with the results of his coaching? Is that someone who is disappointed with the major meltdown? Or I'd it simply one who objectively looks st his results  with all the resources given to him and believes that there should be more  impressive results. Interesting phraseology  haters.

[Cheeks]

LOL Okay Chicos...you do you man, you do you.

Those were the expectations, yes or no?  Everyone in the basketball universe knew the Big East was going to be down this year, yet all the experts picked us 2nd. That's where we finished, yes or no?

[Cheeks]

Interesting phraseology "wojo haters". Exsctly what is a Wojo hater? Is that someone that is frustrated with the results of his coaching? Is that someone who is disappointed with the major meltdown? Or I'd it simply one who objectively looks st his results  with all the resources given to him and believes that there should be more  impressive results. Interesting phraseology  haters.

Someone that says a used car salesman is a better coach than Wojo....like you said...that would be a hater.

[MU82]

I agree with TAMU's post.

Right now, there is no job that he has to "save," so the whole notion is pretty absurd. But to keep Scoop from being even less we-hate-our-coach-y than it is now, he needs to win 27+ games, with at least 2 of those wins in the NCAAs.