Markus

[Goose]

Hal
Aquirre was in and rest of boys would have followed. Plus the Mt. Vernon grew likely would have joined in a couple of years later. Aquirre was slam dunk until early December day in '76 changed the path of MU ball.

[Aircraftcarrier]

Aguirre was in.Scooter McCray was also in.Aguirre and Scooter were same year.Rodney McCray would have  followed a couple years later.Doubtful we would have got Thomas from Westchester St.Joe

[SaveOD238]

Amazing how far back The Great Mistakes Of Marquette History go:

14 years ago: Marquette Gold
16 years ago: Carlton Christian
27 years ago: Avenue Commons
29 years ago: L.A. Gear contract
41 years ago: Replacing Al with Hank
49 years ago: Lalumiere Hall (IMO McCormick is a far worse architectural travesty)
59 years ago: Dropping football
346 years ago: Exploring the Mississippi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGC6C4vuOao

Exploring the Mississippi? No way! M+J even turned around when the natives warned them that the further South natives were dangerous, gun-toting, Spanish allies. That's a smart decision if I've ever seen one!

[Stretchdeltsig]

Interesting.

I would take Cassius Winston and Carsen Edwards over Markus right now (NCAA-wise)

Perhaps "right now" is correct, but the healthy Markus during the first two thirds of the year was better.

[warriorchick]

Exploring the Mississippi? No way! M+J even turned around when the natives warned them that the further South natives were dangerous, gun-toting, Spanish allies. That's a smart decision if I've ever seen one!

The dumb part was trying to get Father Marquette back up to Michigan, paddling upstream when he was dying of dysentery.

[Galway Eagle]

I feel like terry cummings said in an interview he was always going to depaul so maybe not every Chicago player would've chosen us

[Goose]

Galway

We had the Chicago connection locked up until Al resigned. But, you are free to investigate or believe whatever you would like on my post.

[79Warrior]

Galway

We had the Chicago connection locked up until Al resigned. But, you are free to investigate or believe whatever you would like on my post.

Goose,

You are 100% correct about Chicago connection. December 1976 is a month that will live in infamy for MU hoops. I remember reading the story of Al's resignation over Christmas break in NYC. I was stunned to say the least.

[Goose]

79Warrior

There is no doubt that Al was on the cusp of having his greatest recruiting classes in the late '70's. It literally would have been selecting who he wanted over recruiting who he wanted. The lose of Aquirre was tough one to swallow.

[Galway Eagle]

Galway

We had the Chicago connection locked up until Al resigned. But, you are free to investigate or believe whatever you would like on my post.

Dont get me wrong Goose, I believe you on everyone else and looked into it and asked around before. I just wanted to point it out that I vaguely remember an interview or something where he mentioned he had always dreamed of staying in Chicago

[Goose]

Galway

DePaul did not have a very competitive basketball program at the time. Mark Aquirre changed their fate for a ten year period. Cummings going to DePaul, without Aquirre, would be like Jalen Johnson picking UWM to play college ball.

[NYWarrior]

Aguirre was in.Scooter McCray was also in.Aguirre and Scooter were same year.Rodney McCray would have  followed a couple years later.Doubtful we would have got Thomas from Westchester St.Joe

Yup, MU coaches thought Scooter was a #DoneDeal. Same with Bill Varner who went to ND, and Rod Foster who landed up at UCLA (would they have been in the same class?).  MU was ThisClose to keeping it going under Hank, despite the Aguirre defection a few years earlier.

Then, a few yrs later, Wolf went to UNC during the same off-season where Doc left a year early -- that woulda been quite a duo, if only for a season.

[Pakuni]

Galway

We had the Chicago connection locked up until Al resigned. But, you are free to investigate or believe whatever you would like on my post.

Aguirre to DePaul was part of a package deal that included his high school teammate Skip Dillard and, in the next class, Bernard Randolph.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Let's not forget Teddy "The Flash" Grubbs, shall we. 

[Galway Eagle]

Galway

DePaul did not have a very competitive basketball program at the time. Mark Aquirre changed their fate for a ten year period. Cummings going to DePaul, without Aquirre, would be like Jalen Johnson picking UWM to play college ball.

Gotcha, looked it up and you're right. They only had two good years in the 70s before he got there. Granted it was sweet 16, and elite 8 but still thought there was some NIT success in there and yet they were truly all or nothing.

[Goose]

Scooter was a done deal in December,'76. Hank tried awfully hard and always came up a tad short. Mount Vernon and Chicago would have provided possibly the best teams in MU history.

[Pakuni]

Let's not forget Teddy "The Flash" Grubbs, shall we.

Teddy went to King. Aguirre, Dillard and Randolph were from Westinghouse.
All of which reminds me of the sad decline of the CPL in recent years. It was shady and corrupt as hell, but man were there some great teams and players in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

[NYWarrior]

Teddy went to King. Aguirre, Dillard and Randolph were from Westinghouse.
All of which reminds me of the sad decline of the CPL in recent years. It was shady and corrupt as hell, but man were there some great teams and players in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

Same deal in NYC and other big cities. So much of the major talent flees their hometown high schools for prep schools these days, public leagues can't be what they used to be.  High school coaches no matta anymore.

[Goose]

Pakuni

I saw Aquirre play at Westinghouse and big thrill for me. CPL was a true joy. Was lucky enough to have gone to quite a few of CPL games back in the day. Sadly, I do not think I have gone since KO was the coach.

[Pakuni]

Same deal in NYC and other big cities. So much of the major talent flees their hometown high schools for prep schools these days, public leagues can't be what they used to be.  High school coaches no matta anymore.

Yep. Top kids being recreuited away by charter schools, prep schools, etc.
Can't blame the kids. If I had a basketball future, I'd gladly flee Garfield Park, Lawndale or Englewood for a nice, safe campus in Indiana, Florida or Nevada.

[NYWarrior]

Yep. Top kids being recreuited away by charter schools, prep schools, etc.
Can't blame the kids. If I had a basketball future, I'd gladly flee Garfield Park, Lawndale or Englewood for a nice, safe campus in Indiana, Florida or Nevada.

Amen.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Teddy went to King. Aguirre, Dillard and Randolph were from Westinghouse.
All of which reminds me of the sad decline of the CPL in recent years. It was shady and corrupt as hell, but man were there some great teams and players in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

Teddy also had the bad habit of flashing his raincoat on El platforms showcasing his down under.

[WarriorHal]

Scooter was a done deal in December,'76. Hank tried awfully hard and always came up a tad short. Mount Vernon and Chicago would have provided possibly the best teams in MU history.

Ray Meyer was no match for McGuire. Denny Crum was more competitive. Unfortunately, Raymonds was no match for Meyer or Crum. He landed some good guards but failed miserably in the front court and that produced the quick decline.

[Pakuni]

Teddy also had the bad habit of flashing his raincoat on El platforms showcasing his down under.

I'll take your word for it.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I'll take your word for it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-07-21-sp-5278-story,amp.html