Wojo’s replacement.

[curbina]

Talk about an "embarrassing crapburger", todays game!

[Warrior_2002]

Lot of bad excuses here and I was very even on Wojo.  It's time.  It won't happen but its time

[#UnleashSean]

All I hear from Wojo apologists is it was a "rebuild". Year 1 was a rebuild, year 2 was a rebuild, year 3 was a rebuild, year 4 was a rebuild, year 5 was a rebuild. When does it end? The goddamn goon is over there in VT, a town that didn't know what basketball was till his aerodynamic head came in, and their fucking dancing every year.

[1SE]

Not one talking head, expert, preseason bracketology, metric, etc had us making the tournament that season.

It doesn't take grit. Just a cool head. I'm pissed about the loss, but I can look at the season as a whole and see it was a good season overall. I can see where we improved and that the trend line is up. I grade on the whole season, not just the tournament. Tournament is a chance to move up or down half a letter grade, we moved down.

I didn't have a problem with the game plan going in. Murray State is a bad three point shooting team. They are an elite 2 pt shooting team. We tried to take the two away by leaving them open for three. It worked, they were bad inside the arc in the first half, but they made every damn three. Then as we are making our run, Markus gets called for a phantom foul, Ed gets called for a phantom foul, and Joey/John pick up their 2nd each. Snowballs from bad to catastrophe. He didn't make the right adjustments at half and our fate is sealed. The second half is about the worst I've seen out of Wojo ever. Definitely gets a red flag on his record.

Well we can agree on that at any rate.

I mean I think there is a decent likelihood that Markus has been playing with a much more significant injury than is publicly known. That said, Wojo hasn't made any obvious adjustments to that reality.

Sure his teams have made some very marginal and incremental improvements in the past 5 years. But that's mostly because we started from such a low baseline. How quickly we all forget that this program had been 8/8 in tourney appearances in the 8 years preceding Buzz's last year.

[GrimmReaper33]

Sean Miller making $4M, not in tournament
Bob Huggins making $3.6M, not in tournament
Larry Krystoviak making $3.4M, not in tournament
Archie Miller making $3.2M, not in tournament
Shaka Smart making $3.1M, not in tournament
Gregg Marshall (everyone's flavor of the year the last few years, making $3M, not in tournament
Avergy Johnson making $2.9M not in tournament
Frank Martin, $2.9M, not in tournament
Brad Underwood, $2.7M not in tournament
Cuonzo Martin, $2.7M not in tournament
Steve Alford, $2.7M....not even coaching and not in tournament
Mike Anderson, $2.6M, not in tournament

And on and on and on.

How many tourney wins do those coaches have?

[Stretchdeltsig]

Right now, I feel that wojo is not a very good coach.  He doesn't seem to  "coach the players up."  He also doesn't seem to be a very good game coach.  He's a nice guy, but, certainly does not deserve a raise.

[warriorfred]

Sean Miller making $4M, not in tournament
Bob Huggins making $3.6M, not in tournament
Larry Krystoviak making $3.4M, not in tournament
Archie Miller making $3.2M, not in tournament
Shaka Smart making $3.1M, not in tournament
Gregg Marshall (everyone's flavor of the year the last few years, making $3M, not in tournament
Avergy Johnson making $2.9M not in tournament
Frank Martin, $2.9M, not in tournament
Brad Underwood, $2.7M not in tournament
Cuonzo Martin, $2.7M not in tournament
Steve Alford, $2.7M....not even coaching and not in tournament
Mike Anderson, $2.6M, not in tournament

And on and on and on.

I get it.  You make a valid point that not all big name, high salaried coaches succeed.  But the question is not about the other programs, the question is about Marquette. 

Is Marquette on the path to high level success?  Perhaps more importantly, is the goal for Marquette high level success?

I answer "no" to both questions.

If middling performance is the goal, then Wojo and Marquette have succeeded.

[1SE]

Right now, I feel that wojo is not a very good coach.  He doesn't seem to  "coach the players up."  He also doesn't seem to be a very good game coach.  He's a nice guy, but, certainly does not deserve a raise.

Markus was probably hurt. But (almost?) every other players regressed throughout the season.

1) Either because they played too many minutes and ran out of steam

2) Others made adjustments on them and Wojo didn't make counter adjustments to keep them successful.

[Mutaman]

At any rate, I give credit to you and Cheeks for at least coming on here and defending Wojo after that debacle. That takes grit.

Chico's "gritty" defense of Wojo--He didn't have any negative stories written about any of his players in the Chicago Tribune.

[curbina]

Right now, I feel that wojo is not a very good coach.  He doesn't seem to  "coach the players up."  He also doesn't seem to be a very good game coach.  He's a nice guy, but, certainly does not deserve a raise.

Wojo, got a raise after his first year! I would not be surprised if got one this year.

[willie warrior]

Get on the phone to Wardle. Would take him in a heartbeat over Wojo.Give him 5 year deal that Wojo has, and see what happens. We know what we have in Wojo, a kick ass power point presenter.

[4everwarriors]

Da dude hoo drives da bus crashed and berned. Ya mite get da kneed body werk dunn, butt da engine is still da same. Wojo has proven he doesn't have what it takes. Time to give Wojo the heave ho, aina?

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

Markus being hurt is a poor excuse. If the injury was severe he would not be in there

He plays outside of his game.  Hero ball and nobody else that can step up and be clutch.

His biggest issue is that he is asked to play the point and he cant handle it.  Hes the shortest starting 2 guard in college basketball i imagine.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

All I hear from Wojo apologists is it was a "rebuild". Year 1 was a rebuild, year 2 was a rebuild, year 3 was a rebuild, year 4 was a rebuild, year 5 was a rebuild. When does it end? The goddamn goon is over there in VT, a town that didn't know what basketball was till his aerodynamic head came in, and their unnatural carnal knowledgeing dancing every year.

Year 3 and Year 5 weren't rebuild years. I don't think anyone has ever said that.

[warriorfred]

Year 3 and Year 5 weren't rebuild years. I don't think anyone has ever said that.

A lot of people, including myself, were willing to call year 3 a rebuilding year (Wojo's second year with his first recruiting class).  Hell, I am willing to call year 4 a rebuilding year.

The question is, "where is this program headed?"

I see limited upside.

[MUfan12]

I see limited upside.

And a program with no discernable identity.

[Jon]

Chico's "gritty" defense of Wojo--He didn't have any negative stories written about any of his players in the Chicago Tribune.
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Is that the gritty insight a client gets for $500 an hour?

Hey, how much you take home so far this year?

[warriorfred]

And a program with no discernable identity.

That's a cogent observation. 

[jesmu84]

I like people talking about how much wojo gets paid.

Are you all confident that the current amount spent on the program/coach isn't exactly the amount to get the success we currently have? That Marquette isn't all that desirable compared to across the country? That if we invested less, then we would also return less?

[willie warrior]

Get on the phone to Wardle. Would take him in a heartbeat over Wojo.Give him 5 year deal that Wojo has, and see what happens. We know what we have in Wojo, a kick ass power point presenter.

[Johnny B]

Get on the phone to Wardle. Would take him in a heartbeat over Wojo.Give him 5 year deal that Wojo has, and see what happens. We know what we have in Wojo, a kick ass power point presenter.

Why would you suddenly just want wardle?? No way in hell he was on your radar before today.

[WhiteTrash]

Wojo, got a raise after his first year! I would not be surprised if got one this year.

Well that would put to bed the argument that other programs are getting more for less. The heat on Wojo will go up 10×.

[Porky's Butthole]

Porky is as disappointed as everyone, but......It would have been far worse if we entered as a 3 or 4 seed and lost like this.    Let's be honest.....our season ended a couple of weeks ago.  That's why Porky made zero effort to attend any of the BET games or this one despite living within an hour's drive of both NYC and Hartford.

It was a great run there for a while but the season caught up with is.  We were never the 10th best team in the country.  At least Porky never believed we were. Still, Porky is neutral on Wojo and glad be brought us back to relevance this season.   To use the Buy, Sell or Hold analogy, Porky believes Wojo is a hold.  Cmon scoopers it's difficult to go from NIT also ran to Sweet 16 in one season.  Even if we won today, we probably weren't going to make it out of this weekend after the pathetic way our regular season ended.  Until next year.......

[WhiteTrash]

Sean Miller making $4M, not in tournament
Bob Huggins making $3.6M, not in tournament
Larry Krystoviak making $3.4M, not in tournament
Archie Miller making $3.2M, not in tournament
Shaka Smart making $3.1M, not in tournament
Gregg Marshall (everyone's flavor of the year the last few years, making $3M, not in tournament
Avergy Johnson making $2.9M not in tournament
Frank Martin, $2.9M, not in tournament
Brad Underwood, $2.7M not in tournament
Cuonzo Martin, $2.7M not in tournament
Steve Alford, $2.7M....not even coaching and not in tournament
Mike Anderson, $2.6M, not in tournament

And on and on and on.

Was this a pro or anti-Wojo post?

[Cheeks]

All I hear from Wojo apologists is it was a "rebuild". Year 1 was a rebuild, year 2 was a rebuild, year 3 was a rebuild, year 4 was a rebuild, year 5 was a rebuild. When does it end? The goddamn goon is over there in VT, a town that didn't know what basketball was till his aerodynamic head came in, and their unnatural carnal knowledgeing dancing every year.

Nope, that isn't what you hear because no one says that.....doesn't help your case to totally fabricate what people say.